Russia vs Ukraine Thread V: The Fate of Humanity, Traditional Values vs Globohomo

[dabbmw2002]

Lmao. What do you think happens to the US weapons systems if ukraine collapses to russian advances? They get promptly returned to nato territory?

Strong trolling.


The point originally made was that the US pentagon wouldnt logically advise this large transfer if it was actually true that ukraine was in any danger of imminent collapse.


You guys have unironically been spamming that ukraine is out of men every 2 weeks. Is this finally it? Is the war finally over? Find out next time on dragon ball z.

Can you point to one comment I've made where I said Ukraine is in danger of imminent collapse?

Ill wait.

[exxtracool]

Can you point to one comment I've made where I said Ukraine is in danger of imminent collapse?

Ill wait.

Well youre the one who responded to my comments and my entire point was that ukraine is not in danger of imminent collapse…

Are you just here for the sake of argument to pass the time boyo? There better ways of alleviating boredom.

[dabbmw2002]

Well youre the one who responded to my comments and my entire point was that ukraine is not in danger of imminent collapse…

Are you just here for the sake of argument to pass the time boyo? There better ways of alleviating boredom.

This was my initial comment that you responded to. No where did I mention an imminent collapse or even hinted at it - YOU brought that up, not me, again a strawman.

My very clear and only point was that the government would waste money for political reasons. Nowhere was a commenting on the battlefield.

Troll harder.

Is someone actually arguing that the Pentagon/Gov wouldn't waste taxpayer money for political and electoral reasons, and that also serves to reimburse defense contractors who are large donors to to Congress.

Troll or Retardation

[Stizzel]

???

I have literally never once said ukraine would ever retake crimea


Tf

Correct, you asked why we would fund a lost cause clearly implying the cause is not lost

The ukrainian cause is to take crimea

Either we will, in fact, fund a lost cause or the crimean beach party is a go. Which is it?

[chalup]

Correct, you asked why we would fund a lost cause clearly implying the cause is not lost

The ukrainian cause is to take crimea

Either we will, in fact, fund a lost cause or the crimean beach party is a go. Which is it?

Ukranian cause is to defend their sovereignty, are you retarded? One goal of many is to take back Crimea, but that isn't the main objective.

[Stizzel]

Ukranian cause is to defend their sovereignty, are you retarded? One goal of many is to take back Crimea, but that isn't the main objective.

Obviously there are other objectives, yet if every other objective is met but Crimea is still in Russian control the war effort is incomplete. Is the Crimean beach party a go or not? The other retard was smart enough to bail rather than answer so you're welcome to pick up where he left off. I bet you're dumber than he is.

[yabbayabba]

Obviously there are other objectives, yet if every other objective is met but Crimea is still in Russian control the war effort is incomplete. Is the Crimean beach party a go or not? The other retard was smart enough to bail rather than answer so you're welcome to pick up where he left off. I bet you're dumber than he is.

It's pretty funny when the retard bros keep crying that Russia hasn't met any objective but they can't even tell us what a Ukietard "win" looks like. Right now it looks like hundreds of thousands of dead, millions never coming back (to be replaced with millions of third worlders), resource rich areas of the country under Russian control, and best of all...a growing Russian economy.

[Stizzel]

SIMPLICIUS Ѱ
@simpatico771
The collapse is accelerating. Yesterday it was only Ocheretyne and Novobakhmutovka. Now Solovieve has been entered and Russians are reportedly gearing up for assault on Arkhangelsk, which would put everything east of it and west of Novokalinov in a boiler

[PimpinisEasy]

Your opinion?

Doesn't look good for Iran

My opinion is that Iran is facing a high cost of sanctions implemented by Israeli controlled American assets - that due to American influence essentially act as close to world wide sanctions.

I think the strength of American sanctions are eroding as we transition from the unipolar American led world, to the multi polar world.

Iran is only getting stronger and will leap frog many nations at an unexpected rate in the coming years.

I think predictions of a revolution are incorrect, for a number of reasons. I think Iran is growing in both influence and power. I also think Patrick Bet David is retarded.

[PimpinisEasy]

SIMPLICIUS Ѱ
@simpatico771
The collapse is accelerating. Yesterday it was only Ocheretyne and Novobakhmutovka. Now Solovieve has been entered and Russians are reportedly gearing up for assault on Arkhangelsk, which would put everything east of it and west of Novokalinov in a boiler

I successfully predicted the military collapse. It is shocking to me people thought Ukraine can win.

[Ikeman83]

So the situation is so impossibly doomed that the pentagon sees it fit to send them 60bil worth of military aid? Why would they do that if knew ukraine wouldnt be able to use it due to insufficient numbers of troops?

Seems to me either youre wrong and obviously ukraine can still stabilize, or US military intel know less than some random dudes with internet. Which do you think is more plausible?

1. The Pentagon didn't make this decision, Joe Biden did.
2. Joe Biden is politically committed to this policy path, regardless of the final outcome.
3. The Democrats have made supporting the Ukrainian government a part of their platform, regardless of battlefield success (or failure)



The Pentagon provided arms have nothing to do with an expectation of succes. Evidence would be the obvious, recent, outcome in Afghanistan.

[swoleyo]

Another day, another Russia slaughter. Let’s see how many millions they lose trying to attack their neighbors.

Communists never learn ������

Ukraine lost how much land today?

Legendary levels of cope. When Russia is at the gates of Kiev you're still going to be saying why Russia won't win

Ukranian cause is to defend their sovereignty, are you retarded? One goal of many is to take back Crimea, but that isn't the main objective.

Tell us what a Ukrainian victory looks like.

[Ikeman83]

1/1/2024:



4/25/2024:




This is not going the way Ukraine needs it to.

[Stizzel]

Russian bakery selling a 'destroyed abrams' cake for victory day

[Xtermin8fascist]

Russian bakery selling a 'destroyed abrams' cake for victory day

Looks like a pretty chit cake.

[Xtermin8fascist]

1. The Pentagon didn't make this decision, Joe Biden did.
2. Joe Biden is politically committed to this policy path, regardless of the final outcome.
3. The Democrats have made supporting the Ukrainian government a part of their platform, regardless of battlefield success (or failure)



The Pentagon provided arms have nothing to do with an expectation of succes. Evidence would be the obvious, recent, outcome in Afghanistan.

Biden didn't do chit. The decision absolutely was made by the Pentagon and the CIA. It's bipartisan and decided by people who tell our politicians what to do. Notice Mike Johnson and Trump both caved on the bill?

[Ikeman83]

Biden didn't do chit. The decision absolutely was made by the Pentagon and the CIA. It's bipartisan and decided by people who tell our politicians what to do. Notice Mike Johnson and Trump both caved on the bill?

Trump is not in office, so it's fairly impossible to cave.

If you think that the Biden administration and Democrat party aren't the ones pushing for this conflict you're nuts.

50% of Republicans misguidedly voted for the bill to get support for Israel. (Not that we should be doing that either.

[Xtermin8fascist]

Trump is not in office, so it's fairly impossible to cave.

If you think that the Biden administration and Democrat party aren't the ones pushing for this conflict you're nuts.

50% of Republicans misguidedly voted for the bill to get support for Israel. (Not that we should be doing that either.

Trump was the one who convinced them to make the Ukraine aid into a loan. He did cave. He was the one stalling the bill via Johnson. Both parties are pushing this conflict. It must be a shocker for you to realize that the powers that be do not leave this to democratic chance. American foreign policy remains stable regardless of who is elected. These people murdered JFK. Good luck changing anything. They are not elected, and they basically operate independently as a shadow government, paying lip service to presidents. You are correct that Republican people overwhelmingly oppose the bill. Yet Republican congressmen passed it. Why do you think it is? It took one conversation with the CIA for Johnson to do a total 180.


When this chit happens in China or Russia, everyone knows it is the intel agencies. But somehow, we pretend it doesn't happen here.

[Ikeman83]

Trump was the one who convinced them to make the Ukraine aid into a loan. He did cave. He was the one stalling the bill via Johnson. Both parties are pushing this conflict. It must be a shocker for you to realize that the powers that be do not leave this to democratic chance. American foreign policy remains stable regardless of who is elected. These people murdered JFK. Good luck changing anything. They are not elected, and they basically operate independently as a shadow government, paying lip service to presidents. You are correct that Republican people overwhelmingly oppose the bill. Yet Republican congressmen passed it. Why do you think it is? It took one conversation with the CIA for Johnson to do a total 180.


When this chit happens in China or Russia, everyone knows it is the intel agencies. But somehow, we pretend it doesn't happen here.

US foreign policy is radically different under Biden than Trump, so that pretty much negates your whole argument

[Xtermin8fascist]

US foreign policy is radically different under Biden than Trump, so that pretty much negates your whole argument

It's not, and you didn't answer the question. Just tune your brain out of Fox News for 10 seconds and look at the situation.

[Stizzel]

Looks like a pretty chit cake.

Reported to the KGB

[Ikeman83]

It's not, and you didn't answer the question. Just tune your brain out of Fox News for 10 seconds and look at the situation.

Some R's wanted nothing to pass, some wanted AID for Israel. Some think aid for Ukraine is a good idea.

None of that changes the fact that Trump's foreign (and domestic) policies are radically different from Biden's.

[PimpinisEasy]

Some R's wanted nothing to pass, some wanted AID for Israel. Some think aid for Ukraine is a good idea.

None of that changes the fact that Trump's foreign (and domestic) policies are radically different from Biden's.

To truly understand why the Americans provided such funding to Ukraine you need to understand the American mentality. Their belief is that American weapons are so superior that they will result in an inevitable win for anyone operating them.

It's simply hubris and they generally believe that these weapon systems will turn Russia over. Even in this thread we have seen endless comments about how the himars or abrahms will defeat the Russians. They don't understand the reality of warfare or even who they're fighting.

Russia has excellent military tech and a lot of American tech is old fashioned now.

[PimpinisEasy]

The Situation on the Southeastern Frontline of Ukraine has apparently gone from Bad to Worse, with a Partial Collapse of Ukrainian Defensive Lines reported to have occurred Overnight in the Donetsk Region after a Heavy Assault by Russian Mechanized Forces; during the Assault the Settlement of Soloviove and possible several other along the “Ocheretyne Axis” were Captured by Russian Forces.

As I predict Ukraine will enter military collapse

[Leonydus]

ukraine will never be a white nation again

the jews are going to fill it up with sub-saharans

[Zelensky]

[Stizzel]

Dont worry! The retard crew assures us that once muh billions arrive this will transform into an elite unit that wont stop until they're sipping stoli on a beach in crimea

[Muscle2021]

Ukranian forces fleeing the frontline in a hurry leaving running soldiers behind

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRuss...h_regiment_of/

[yabbayabba]

Ukranian forces fleeing the frontline in a hurry leaving running soldiers behind

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRuss...h_regiment_of/

Vatniks might not like it but that is what winning looks like.

[Stizzel]

Vatniks might not like it but that is what winning looks like.

Here at the Kremlin we're having a big meeting to try and figure out how we're going to spin this for our pro russian propaganda/lies. It aint gonna be easy.

Sasha and Dmitriy are just slamming shots of vodka because they're so upset