How much protein for someone thats obese?

[fays12]

When I calculate my protein, it says I should eat over 300 grams of protein!

Obviously thats alot so I think because im obese, its adding alot to the number?

How much protein should I eat to lose weight?

And is it true that high proetin helps with weight loss?

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[401Delta]

You're basically a 200 lb man carrying around a 150 lb bag of fat, so calculate it like you're 200 lbs (@ .75 grams per lb of bodyweight).

[air2fakie]

I heard alot of protein helps with weight loss, so how much protein should I eat to lose weight?

You don't eat protein to lose weight.

[fays12]

You don't eat protein to lose weight.

Protein has a much higher thermic effect than fat or carbs — 20–35% compared to 5–15% ( 21 ). High protein intake has been shown to significantly boost metabolism and increase the number of calories you burn. Specially if you weight lift 5 times a week.

[air2fakie]

Protein has a much higher thermic effect than fat or carbs — 20–35% compared to 5–15% ( 21 ). High protein intake has been shown to significantly boost metabolism and increase the number of calories you burn.

In that case, eat 1000-2000 g/day.

[fays12]

In that case, eat 1000-2000 g/day.

Just because eating protein helps, doesnt mean you should eat 2000 grams of protein lol

Im here to learn from people, im not here to argue and mock others

[air2fakie]

Just because eating protein helps, doesnt mean you should eat 2000 grams of protein lol

There is also calories and other things that plays into weight loss

Im here to learn from people, im not here to argue and mock people

So in other words you're not eating protein to lose weight.

[fays12]

So in other words you're not eating protein to lose weight.

Protein can help boost your metabolism and increase the number of calories you burn, which can help the process of weight loss.

No I dont eat protein to lose weight, I eat it to fuel my body, and the right amount can help boost my metabolism.

You can disagree with me, but atleast try to attempt to understand what im saying instead of playing smartass

[air2fakie]

Protein can help boost your metabolism and increase the number of calories you burn, which can help the process of weight loss.

No I dont eat protein to lose weight, I eat it to fuel my body, and the right amount can help boost my metabolism.

This is a circular conversation since you originally asked how much protein you should eat to lose weight. This is like your recent thread where you kept insisting you're not able to lose weight even though you're in a calorie deficit, and that maybe you should eat more calories to boost your metabolism.

You need to focus less on the metabolism science and just eat less food. At 350 lbs, I guarantee you that your body has plenty of fuel. This is not mocking, it's just facts. Good luck!

[fays12]

This is a circular conversation since you originally asked how much protein you should eat to lose weight. This is like your recent thread where you kept insisting you're not able to lose weight even though you're in a calorie deficit, and that maybe you should eat more calories to boost your metabolism.

You need to focus less on the metabolism science and just eat less food. At 350 lbs, I guarantee you that your body has plenty of fuel. This is not mocking, it's just facts. Good luck!

Now you want to argue with me about what I say on other threads!!?

I said im here to learn, and to learn from you, but all you did was put words in my mouth and intentionally want to misunderstand me.

It could be false that protein helps with weight loss, but I wasnt arguing with you about that. Im simply trying to get you to understand what im saying, and telling you to not put words in my mouth.

[air2fakie]

Now you want to argue with me about what I say on other threads!!?

On the other thread, I was simply asking if that statement was true because a friend recommended it.

I said im here to learn, and to learn from you, but all you did was intentionally not understanding me and put words in my mouth.

It could be false that protein helps with weight loss, but I wasnt arguing with you about that.

My argument with you was about trying to get you to understand what im even saying, and telling you to not put words in my mouth.

Dude no one's putting words into your mouth. You're 350 lbs and you asked how much protein you should eat to lose weight, so I corrected you since as you wrote it exactly like you were trying to find the optimal amount for weight loss. Begin circular convo here.

No one's arguing with you about the other thread, I just pointed out how you similarly engaged in a circular conversation about how you're in a deficit but aren't losing weight. Now you've gained 15 lbs in 2 weeks since that thread. There's nothing to learn here - EAT LESS FOOD if you want to lose weight.

I guarantee you that you're getting enough protein with whatever you're eating & your body has enough fuel at 350 lbs and that your body's metabolism has the ability to lose weight if you eat less.

[AdamWW]

Now you want to argue with me about what I say on other threads!!?

On the other thread, I was simply asking if that statement was true because a friend recommended it.

I said im here to learn, and to learn from you, but all you did was intentionally not understanding me and put words in my mouth.

It could be false that protein helps with weight loss, but I wasnt arguing with you about that.

My argument with you was about trying to get you to understand what im even saying, and telling you to not put words in my mouth.

You've posted in this section before, and you've been here since 2018... I feel like this information would have been shared during that time, and if not, the stickies would cover that...

[fays12]

Dude no one's putting words into your mouth. You're 350 lbs and you asked how much protein you should eat to lose weight, so I corrected you since as you wrote it exactly like you were trying to find the optimal amount for weight loss. Begin circular convo here.

No one's arguing with you about the other thread, I just pointed out how you similarly engaged in a circular conversation about how you're in a deficit but aren't losing weight. Now you've gained 15 lbs in 2 weeks since that thread. There's nothing to learn here - EAT LESS FOOD if you want to lose weight.

I guarantee you that you're getting enough protein with whatever you're eating & your body has enough fuel at 350 lbs and that your body's metabolism has the ability to lose weight if you eat less.

I lost 6 lbs since then, I just put the wrong numbers by mistake.

My friend/trainer wanted me to up my calories and protein and I dont, so I come here to see what people think and if hes correct.

This is basically why I posted the last two threads

[TolerantLactose]

I'll never understand how someone over 200lbs can fail at losing weight.

[paulinkansas]

I've heard you can buy Synephrine (bitter orange) on Ebay and take it with caffeine to boost your metabolism. You can throw some nicotine in there too. It's also an appetite suppressant.

[Heisman2]

Higher protein intake helps as it is more satiating than carbohydrates or fats and because it will help you maintain your lean body mass when you lose weight. Post #2 recommended you eat 150 grams of protein a day, I think that's perfectly reasonable.

Do not eat more protein because of a higher thermic effect of feeding. Each gram of protein is 4 kcal. If the thermic effect is say 25%, then you will still net absorb 3 kcal for each gram of protein. That's not helpful, lol.

[fays12]

Higher protein intake helps as it is more satiating than carbohydrates or fats and because it will help you maintain your lean body mass when you lose weight. Post #2 recommended you eat 150 grams of protein a day, I think that's perfectly reasonable.

Do not eat more protein because of a higher thermic effect of feeding. Each gram of protein is 4 kcal. If the thermic effect is say 25%, then you will still net absorb 3 kcal for each gram of protein. That's not helpful, lol.

Thank you! Finally someone directly answered me and helped me understand

[fays12]

I'll never understand how someone over 200lbs can fail at losing weight.

I lost 180 lbs over the years and still losing, people willl struggle through that journey and have setbacks, its not that hard to understand.

People like me also have multiple eating disorders, sleep apnea, thyroid issues, and extremely low testosterone which can all effect my weight loss journey.

[air2fakie]

Thank you! Finally someone directly answered me and helped me understand

Yes, if only someone had tried to convince you earlier that you don't eat protein to lose weight.

I lost 180 lbs over the years and still losing, people willl struggle through that journey and have setbacks, its not that hard to understand.

You used to weigh 530 lbs?

[fays12]

Yes, if only someone had tried to convince you earlier that you don't eat protein to lose weight.

You used to weigh 530 lbs?

I used to be around 470 lbs, dropped to 300 lbs, but I gained so now im 329 lbs

I put the wrong weight on the topic because I calculated it wrong as I use kg

[TolerantLactose]

I lost 180 lbs over the years and still losing, people willl struggle through that journey and have setbacks, its not that hard to understand.

People like me also have multiple eating disorders, sleep apnea, thyroid issues, and extremely low testosterone which can all effect my weight loss journey.

It's hard to understand why people give themselves a laundry list of excuses. I'm diagnosed hypothyroid. I've taken myself of replacement therapy and I had zero problem dropping from 15% bf to 10% in the last 6-7 weeks. The last time I had my testosterone tested was in my 20s and it was near the bottom of the reference range.

The more people make excuses for themselves, the easier it is to accept defeat.

[air2fakie]

I used to be around 470 lbs, dropped to 300 lbs, but I gained so now im 329 lbs

I put the wrong weight on the topic because I calculated it wrong as I use kg

Got it. In all seriousness, keep things simple and don't worry about the science. Overweight people often come on here and debate (usually incorrect or irrelevant) science when the only thing that will work over time is to consistently eat less. The 100% optimal or quickest way of losing weight is irrelevant if you don't actually lose weight, are happy with your body/skin composition once the weight comes off, and keep the weight off.

And regarding other factors which you think affect your ability to lose weight, if you can go from 470 to 300, you can go from 329 to 200. Whether it's weight loss or life in general, everyone is dealt a different hand. You either do something to better the hand dealt with you in life and sustain it, or not.

[fays12]

It's hard to understand why people give themselves a laundry list of excuses. I'm diagnosed hypothyroid. I've taken myself of replacement therapy and I had zero problem dropping from 15% bf to 10% in the last 6-7 weeks. The last time I had my testosterone tested was in my 20s and it was near the bottom of the reference range.

The more people make excuses for themselves, the easier it is to accept defeat.

You were saying you cant understand how someone my weight cant lose weight (even though I did not say that), so I replied saying its not realistic to tell people losing 400 pounds is easy without having setbacks, its just not realistic or helpful.

I said I lost 180 lbs and still losing but I also gave examples of my setbacks through my journey of losing 180 lbs, this doesnt mean im making excuses. What I did is went to a doctor, got medicated, and did the right things to make me lose 180 pounds.

I dont think you know what making excuses means, peoples arguments here are very autistic lol

[fays12]

Got it. In all seriousness, keep things simple and don't worry about the science. Overweight people often come on here and debate (usually incorrect or irrelevant) science when the only thing that will work over time is to consistently eat less. The 100% optimal or quickest way of losing weight is irrelevant if you don't actually lose weight, are happy with your body/skin composition once the weight comes off, and keep the weight off.

And regarding other factors which you think affect your ability to lose weight, if you can go from 470 to 300, you can go from 329 to 200. Whether it's weight loss or life in general, everyone is dealt a different hand. You either do something to better the hand dealt with you in life and sustain it, or not.

Yeah thats true, when I have setbacks from time to time, I start overthinking things too much

Anyway, thanx for the advice

[AdamWW]

This thread needs to die now...

[TolerantLactose]

I suppose if you're so careless as to get several hundred pounds overweight, people who aren't may seem autistic by comparison.

[fays12]

I suppose if you're so careless as to get several hundred pounds overweight, people who aren't may seem autistic by comparison.

Gaining weight is not a sign of Autism.

But not being able to comprehend the idea that losing 400 pounds is hard is a potential sign of Autism.

Saying im making excuses for not losing weight when I did not even mention that im not losing weight is a potential sign of Autism.

[AdamWW]

Gaining weight is not a sign of Autism.

But not being able to comprehend the idea that losing 400 pounds is hard is a potential sign of Autism.

Saying im making excuses for not losing weight when I did not even mention that im not losing weight is a potential sign of Autism.

Not taking sides here, but there is actually a link between autism and obesity….

It’s not part of the diagnostic criteria or anything but they are correlated.

[Heisman2]

Not taking sides here, but there is actually a link between autism and obesity….

It’s not part of the diagnostic criteria or anything but they are correlated.

That's probably more to do with the very picky eating that is often seen with autism spectrum disorder.

[pondus_levo]

You're basically a 200 lb man carrying around a 150 lb bag of fat, so calculate it like you're 200 lbs (@ .75 grams per lb of bodyweight).

The thread could have ended here on post 2.