QBR for the NFC Championship

[ohiostate124]

Brady: 75.4

Rodgers: 66.8

Lol

[Jaydawg08]

These kind of stats always confirm that the ESPN QBR is a dumb made up stat that makes no sense. Idk anyone that takes it seriously.

[DynamicDot]

EPA is more valid than QBR. And just FYI, Brady had a higher EPA too.

[Tyler2106]

These kind of stats always confirm that the ESPN QBR is a dumb made up stat that makes no sense. Idk anyone that takes it seriously.

It seems every Rodgers homer tries to use it to say he's better than Brady.

[DynamicDot]

It seems every Rodgers homer tries to use it to say he's better than Brady.

You're thinking of passer rating. Which is not QBR.

[rampagefc77]

You're thinking of passer rating. Which is not QBR.

Pretty amazing that Brady would be higher in either, given his 3 ints.

[DynamicDot]

Pretty amazing that Brady would be higher in either, given his 3 ints.

QBR is a really weird stat that makes no sense. Rodgers had a higher passer rating by like 30 points or something. But passer rating doesn't account for sacks

[Tyler2106]

You're thinking of passer rating. Which is not QBR.

Yes, sorry. You're right. I can't keep track of the pointless stats that they use to try and prove Rodgers is better.

[Baylorballs]

both QB's had some nice throws... but dang they look inferior to KC chiefs. Game is just - 3pts for chiefs?? insane.

KC should take care of business

[DynamicDot]

both QB's had some nice throws... but dang they look inferior to KC chiefs. Game is just - 3pts for chiefs?? insane.

KC should take care of business

KC has a backup OL. Both their starting tackles are injured. Not impossible if Bucs win honestly although Chiefs really are next level from the Packers.

[Swept]

Bucs have won in spite of Brady. With Gabbert Bucs would of blown out both these teams

[Brandon556211]

Mahomes is on a different level.

[charity4thepoor]

Bucs have won in spite of Brady. With Gabbert Bucs would of blown out both these teams

I am pro-troll for all previous Jags QBs and hope that both backups end up playing in the SB (hehe), but you are nuts.

[Swept]

I am pro-troll for all previous Jags QBs and hope that both backups end up playing in the SB (hehe), but you are nuts.

In the one game Gabbert played this year he had the best game he’s had since 2015, and he only played a half. That was statistically the best half of his career.

Bucs have the best receiving core in nfl history you put any QB on this team (with they way the defense is playing now) and anything short of 35 ppg and a Super Bowl is pathetic.

[ohiostate124]

both QB's had some nice throws... but dang they look inferior to KC chiefs. Game is just - 3pts for chiefs?? insane.

KC should take care of business

Chiefs only won by 3 last time and the Bucs are much better than they were at 7-5. Don’t sleep on them.

[BigDeeps01]

The only stat that matters

Brady W
Rodgers L

[YoungMetro24]

Pretty amazing that Brady would be higher in either, given his 3 ints.

Proof that INTs are not the be-all, end-all of stats...

In the one game Gabbert played this year he had the best game he’s had since 2015, and he only played a half. That was statistically the best half of his career.

Bucs have the best receiving core in nfl history you put any QB on this team (with they way the defense is playing now) and anything short of 35 ppg and a Super Bowl is pathetic.

LMAO When NE wins the division with Andy Dalton next season and Brady gets exposed even worse

Brady in Arians offense will be a disaster.

LOLOLOLOL stay broke you dumb virgin

[Jaydawg08]

The only stat that matters

Brady W
Rodgers L

Wins are a QB stat? I had no idea that football was tennis BigDeeps... tell me more!

[Tyler2106]

Wins are a QB stat? I had no idea that football was tennis BigDeeps... tell me more!

Why is it the only people who say wins aren't a QB stat nor are Super Bowl wins only the people who are trying to make a case for a lesser QB as GOAT?

[ohiostate124]

Thats fine because Brady has all of the important qb stats as well or will have them after next season.

[Jaydawg08]

Why is it the only people who say wins aren't a QB stat nor are Super Bowl wins only the people who are trying to make a case for a lesser QB as GOAT?

When did I argue that Brady isn't the GOAT? Why are the same posters saying the same blanket statements in response to me. Are you having a hypothetical conversation with random people when responding to my post, or did you not mean to quote me when saying this?

[BigDeeps01]

When did I argue that Brady isn't the GOAT? Why are the same posters saying the same blanket statements in response to me. Are you having a hypothetical conversation with random people when responding to my post, or did you not mean to quote me when saying this?

When did you say Brady isn't the GOAT? Pretty sure recently you said Rodgers was the best QB you have ever seen

A GOAT would have ran it on that 3rd down, and told his coach to go for it on 4th down when down 8 in the red zone

[Lunatic]

Why is it the only people who say wins aren't a QB stat nor are Super Bowl wins only the people who are trying to make a case for a lesser QB as GOAT?

If wins are QB stats so are losses, so Brady is why he's lost 3 SBs?

Wins ARE a team stat.

[DynamicDot]

When did you say Brady isn't the GOAT? Pretty sure recently you said Rodgers was the best QB you have ever seen

A GOAT would have ran it on that 3rd down, and told his coach to go for it on 4th down when down 8 in the red zone

Probably one of those best ever is different from greatest ever people. In which case I would agree with him that Brady is not the best but Brady is the GOAT.

[SoutheastBeast1]

Where stats like these are flawed is the context in which events happen.

A 3rd and 9 conversion in a key moment isn't factored in.

An INT launched downfield on 3rd down when pressure is coming anyway that gets picked all the way back at the 20/25 yard line is as good as what would otherwise be a sack and punt.


Stats are great, but nerds rely too much on them. Anyone with any intelligence can describe the limitations of statistics. It's a nice benchmark but it's never all telling. People who treat them as if they're all telling are idiots.

[BigDeeps01]

Probably one of those best ever is different from greatest ever people. In which case I would agree with him that Brady is not the best but Brady is the GOAT.

I mean to me, GOAT is the GOAT. If you're the GOAT, you're the best ever, and vice versa

[DynamicDot]

I mean to me, GOAT is the GOAT. If you're the GOAT, you're the best ever, and vice versa

I agree with you but people do the best vs. greatest thing in NBA too. Jordan being the greatest, LeBron being the best. I would say Jordan is both there.

As for NFL, you can split it in different pieces. Best prime, best peak, best career, most accomplished. Brady takes the cake easily in the last two. The first two? You can argue those.

[BigDeeps01]

I agree with you but people do the best vs. greatest thing in NBA too. Jordan being the greatest, LeBron being the best. I would say Jordan is both there.

As for NFL, you can split it in different pieces. Best prime, best peak, best career, most accomplished. Brady takes the cake easily in the last two. The first two? You can argue those.

Seems like a way to give everyone a gold medal to me

I'm not saying it's solely based off rings but it's a big part of it. You can't have 1 ring and claim to be the GOAT. The other made up categories are inconsequential

[DynamicDot]

Seems like a way to give everyone a gold medal to me

I'm not saying it's solely based off rings but it's a big part of it. You can't have 1 ring and claim to be the GOAT. The other made up categories are inconsequential

Best prime vs. Best career is definitely a legitimate difference. Some people prefer longevity over peak. I don't. I would rather have a guy who was the best for like 5 years than a guy who was top 5 for like 10 years.

Drew Brees vs. Aaron Rodgers has a similar argument to that. Brees had longevity argument while Rodgers was a far better prime although at this point Rodgers has probably ended the argument entirely.

Just to be clear I don't think Rodgers is better than Brady in any of those categories. Only guy I think that had the argument of being a better player (not career) is actually Brady's original rival and the only guy who actually was able to win in the playoffs against him.

[Lunatic]

Seems like a way to give everyone a gold medal to me

I'm not saying it's solely based off rings but it's a big part of it. You can't have 1 ring and claim to be the GOAT. The other made up categories are inconsequential

In a sport like basketball 1 ring isn't enough. Football is a little different since it's 10 other guys on the field with you.