Can't wait for all the charges to be filed in "one of the biggest scandals in history". Hopefully there is room next to H. Clintons jail cell for all those involved.
OBAMAGATE bigger than Watergate!! People are saying it will happen soon.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/14/media...ate/index.htmlAttorney General William Barr eventually commissioned a federal prosecutor to look into the matter. The Post reported on Tuesday that the inquiry ended without finding substantive wrongdoing and that the probe's findings would likely disappoint conservatives who believed "unmasking" was tied to a political conspiracy against Trump.
Id post a Fox link but you know... /shrug
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Unmasking for Halloween - Thanks AG Barr.
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Ive lost count on how many have been charged surrounding Trump these last 3+ years but I can count how many have been charged/jailed from the long list Trump has accused.
Zero.
The MAGAs can twist themselves into knots defending him all they want though. They'll say soon...(as KIM did ITT).Last edited by Jtbny; 10-15-2020 at 03:47 PM.
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10-15-2020, 02:19 PM #9
I'm just surprised they made this announcement instead of saying the investigation has moved into more sinister activities and the results will be known soon.
As any good reality TV show knows you create a cliff hanger for the secondseasonterm and hit the announcement with a musical sting. You just don't wrap up storylines like this.
Trump needs to get on the horn with his Presidency's executive producer, someone is dropping the ball."it's likely one of us will have to spend some days alone"
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10-15-2020, 02:23 PM #10
This whole unmasking thing was pretty incoherent to begin with. As far as I can tell, the whole controversy is that Biden and other administration officials would read intelligence reports during the course of their job and, when they see a name that has been 'masked' in the report, they would sometimes ask someone to 'unmask' the name so that they could better understand the report in context.
There doesn't seem to be any allegation that the underlying surveillance itself was improper. There doesn't seem to be any allegation that the information in the intelligence briefings was leaked or misused in some political way.
I can't prove it, but I'm pretty sure that the only reason why President Trump and the right wing media got all worked up about this is because the word "unmask" sounds sinister. Of course, the scariness of a word is not really a good predicate for a criminal investigation."it's likely one of us will have to spend some days alone"
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So, you don't believe that the dossier that was funded by Hillary was a fabrication, when Hillary, the opposing political party paid for it to be fabricated? Does the fact that the entire United States was taken for a 4-year ride of bogus Trump Russia Collusion bug you a little? Sure, some people were indicted, but Trump was not and they were out to get Trump.
As for as Hunter Biden. It is more than mere politics. IMO it is a racketeering case. But, I honestly don't know if or how much Joe was involved.
I'm not bitching. Just asking as I would ask anyoneHelping one person may not change the world, but it could change the world for one person.
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Jenny,
Take your own advice about being in reality, you are a nobody therefore you haven’t a clue about joey or his boy hunter, all you’ll ever really ever think you know is headlines, and big tech is controlling that.
Get back to your league and mop Chris C’s gym, I give you one thing I do think you are stronger and could man handle Chris but you know how Chris is, in public you are lower class sir.
This is meant for JT, not Mark lol.
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10-15-2020, 07:17 PM #18
This Chris C?
Christie says he was in ICU, admits he was "wrong not to wear mask" at White House
What he's saying: “I believed when I entered the White House grounds, that I had entered a safe zone, due to the testing that I and many others underwent every day,” Christie said in the statement to the Times.
“I was wrong. I was wrong not to wear a mask at the Amy Coney Barrett announcement and I was wrong not to wear a mask at my multiple debate prep sessions with the president and the rest of the team,” he added. “I hope that my experience shows my fellow citizens that you should follow CDC guidelines in public no matter where you are and wear a mask to protect yourself and others,” he said.
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Funny how the media does "Anonymous sources tell us Trump puts ketchup on his steak. This could be the biggest scandal that could end his presidency" and also "Clearly documented constitutional abuses occurred, meh they want to make a big scandal out of nothing".
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I don’t like anonymous sources just for the hell of it. Anonymous sources wouldn’t fly in court, after all, where facing the accuser is a big deal.
But clearly, anonymous sources have their place. Contrary to what some people might want to sell you, we can trust most journalists, at least as far as the provision of a specific fact from an anonymous source goes. And the alternatives is, quite simply, we don’t otherwise get the fact.
If you have an alternative way to protect whistleblowers or encourage the free flow of information away from very, very powerful individuals without compromising the livelihood or safety of someone sharing that info, please present it.
Like it or not, the media is perhaps the strongest single check on the power of the state. We need more anonymous sources spilling things, not less."it's likely one of us will have to spend some days alone"
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My response was to the statement
I'm pretty sure that the only reason why President Trump and the right wing media got all worked up about this is because the word "unmask" sounds sinister. Of course, the scariness of a word is not really a good predicate for a criminal investigation.
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I will be the last person to defend Hillary Clinton, but bogus? I guess, if we ignore the arrests, indictments, convictions, Mueller report, Senate Intelligence Committee report, etc.
ETA: I am speaking to Russian interference, not collusion.
ETA: And to answer what may be your next question, no I don’t think President Trump nor his campaign conspired with Russia in the 2016 election. A more grey area is the obstruction of justice. What Mueller said is that Trump's actions could be inferred to be obstruction, but those same actions (ie firing members of his executive branch) are a part of his constitutional power as president, so obstruction could only be charged if it were proven that President Trump was acting with the corrupt intent of inhibiting the investigation. Since this could not be proven, Mueller could not recommend charging him with obstruction, but could not exonerate him either.
Mueller laid out the evidence he found and then punts to congress and says "I can't charge him, but I will not exonerate him so this is on you guys to decide what you want to do here."
He also rather clearly lays out precedent for obstructing justice without a crime having been committed as well as his opinions on whether the President is above the law.Last edited by 7Seconds; 10-16-2020 at 05:26 PM.
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