Kissing of Jewish man and Hijabi in public billboards sparked outrage in Netherlands

[jlick]

"Allahu Akbar" is a common phrase amongst Arabs/Muslims. It's as common as "hello." It's not a very compelling argument to state that because the phrase is said - it's automatically for Allah.

Again, I disagree that herd behaviours can be attributed to God. That's just not fair IMO.

I reckon that the second part is what Palestinians use to justify their attacks.

That surely is some fantastic mental gymnastics. "herd behaviors" can be attributed to God when their Holy book, the perfect word from God himself, is the source of their behavior.

ITT: Muslims refusing to accept the reality of terrorist attacks.

[EpicLevelWizard]

The more religious the lass the more they enjoy sex. I think they reckon if they're going to sin, they might as well REALLY enjoy it.

This, Catholics especially because that whole religion is anti-fun, I was raised in the church so I know.

Have a Catholic high school and a Catholic college both near me and the girls are about 50x freakier in bed once you land them. It's a harder fish to catch but worth it!

Also, every Muslim, Jew, Christian, or other in this thread is wrong. At least about religion, and that's why you're fighting. Who cares what the phuck others do in their bedroom? Every single one of your holy books advocated slavery, sex with kids, and killing; yet you all get upset when someone masturbates or plows cindy/billy from next door when they're not married. If you're that concerned about other people's sex lives it tells me 2 things, that you're a moron, and then you aren't having or haven't had enough sex in your life. Go get your freak on you repressed religious bastards, even if it's just 10 minutes by yourself with porn on your phone, or in FraudEx's case with a goat behind the outhouse after morning prayer and online taqiyya posting.

Peace be with you all, and may you all be happy regardless of your stupid beliefs or lack thereof. Srs.

[PickleBrah]

Also, every Muslim, Jew, Christian, or other in this thread is wrong. At least about religion, and that's why you're fighting.... Every single one of your holy books advocated.... sex with kids....

Will wait for you to quote New Testament scripture from the bible to support your statement. I completely agree with your statements about Muslims/Jews being in support of this ideology though.

[Lawlstud]

Will wait for you to quote New Testament scripture from the bible to support your statement. I completely agree with your statements about Muslims/Jews being in support of this ideology though.

"Nah bro the original bible got outdated, we went to version Holy Bible 2.0"

[PickleBrah]

"Nah bro the original bible got outdated, we went to version Holy Bible 2.0"

"Not providing a source because I can't find one. I hate religion, so just imagine that Christianity is the same."

[EpicLevelWizard]

Will wait for you to quote New Testament scripture from the bible to support your statement. I completely agree with your statements about Muslims/Jews being in support of this ideology though.

Nothing in the New Testament says this as far as I know, wouldn't even debate that, though the church itself shields molesters and discourages healthy sex & masturbation(not just the Catholics either, other denominations do it too). The New Testament is the least terrible of the various abrahamic holy books.

[PickleBrah]

Nothing in the New Testament says this as far as I know, wouldn't even debate that, though the church itself shields molesters and discourages healthy sex & masturbation(not just the Catholics either, other denominations do it too). The New Testament is the least terrible of the various abrahamic holy books.

With this, I can agree with you completely.

[CommonPheasant]

When liberals' "coexist" fantasies meet harsh reality.

[Thelonebadwolf]

Very interesting take. I think many of my family members in Iran would have similar sentiments. I think the example you gave of the Iranian kids in the 80s are much more close to what the martyrs in the Qur'an were doing (fighting for their land ect.)

However, i think extremists have high-jacked the qur'anic verses and that is why we have the suicide bombing we have today. To me, an iranian kid taking out an ivading iraqi tank is much different than ISIS driving a car through a market in europe. Another problem is that we have muslims like Muzziechick who refuse to condemn these violent verses in the qur'an that inspire such attacks. They make claims like "that is not true islam" or "they will face their day of judgement" instead of addressing the root of violence- the qur'an.

Extremists definitely have hijacked it.

True Islam was Islam made for people who lived in 622 AD

The same way 'True Christianity/Judaism" was made for their respective times.

While most sane people pick/chose verses from their respective book, the crazy ones(christians/jews too) take every verse to be truth even in this day/age.

Ironically, kids grow into extremism, memorizing the qu'ran at funded schools called madrasahs. These schools are funded in Pakistan and other places by the only country in the world that practices true Islam....Saudi Arabia. A lovely ally of ours.

[Weightaholic]

When you give Palestinians a free pass, you are giving a free pass to every Muslim that feels that they have been aggrieved.

Not only every muslim, every person.

The religion cannot be blamed for herd behaviours.

Religions, especially demented "procedure based" religions like your cult DEMAND herd behaviour....

Once again, you prove yourself vacuous.

[eltigar]

Extremists definitely have hijacked it.

True Islam was Islam made for people who lived in 622 AD

The same way 'True Christianity/Judaism" was made for their respective times.

While most sane people pick/chose verses from their respective book, the crazy ones(christians/jews too) take every verse to be truth even in this day/age.

Ironically, kids grow into extremism, memorizing the qu'ran at funded schools called madrasahs. These schools are funded in Pakistan and other places by the only country in the world that practices true Islam....Saudi Arabia. A lovely ally of ours.

Madrasah is the Arabic and
Persian and Urdu word for ... wait for it.......... school !
Lo and fuken behold , who'd have thought such a thing.

And what is " true" Islam ?
Pretty sure every Muslim considers them self a true Muslim.

[Thelonebadwolf]

Madrasah is the Arabic and
Persian and Urdu word for ... wait for it.......... school !
Lo and fuken behold , who'd have thought such a thing.

And what is " true" Islam ?
Pretty sure every Muslim considers them self a true Muslim.

Well its more like Madreseh in Persian. Also not really used day2day most people call it by specifics ( Dabeerestan-high school, Daneshgah=college) Every Muslim considers themselves a Muslim. It's the 'purists' that weed out their own population. ISIS members want people living by the literal meaning of the book taught in qu'ran recitation schools. The average muslim does not share that belief. Their "True Islam" is verse by verse.

All I said was that the country that lives closest to the society painted in the Qu'ran is Saudi Arabia.

[jlick]

Extremists definitely have hijacked it.

True Islam was Islam made for people who lived in 622 AD

The same way 'True Christianity/Judaism" was made for their respective times.

While most sane people pick/chose verses from their respective book, the crazy ones(christians/jews too) take every verse to be truth even in this day/age.

Ironically, kids grow into extremism, memorizing the qu'ran at funded schools called madrasahs. These schools are funded in Pakistan and other places by the only country in the world that practices true Islam....Saudi Arabia. A lovely ally of ours.

Spot on, as usual Thlonebadwolf. Would rep you if you weren't on recharge already lol. The rules and laws from the Qur'an and the Hadiths were needed during the time to spread the Islamic faith. While I could never respect Mohammed as a person, I would be lying if I said it wasn't impressive how he was able to unite all of the arabic tribes during his time, whether through violence or submission.

The laws make sense when you consider the context of the times and what they were trying to accomplish (the spread of the islamic faith), but therein lies the problem. We are not in 622 anymore, yet the Qur'an and the Hadiths remain the same. There has been no reform of Islam since it's inception. Yes there are sects of Islam such as the Sunni and Shia muslims, but these two sects formed out of a dispute over who would be the next caliphate, not as a result of an improved or just a different take on Islam itself.

You are also totally right about memorizing the qu'ran being the source of the qu'ran. I think David Wood explained the radicalization process the best here with this quick video:

[Lawlstud]

"Not providing a source because I can't find one. I hate religion, so just imagine that Christianity is the same."

This is why it's so difficult to take you all serious. Even among your own religion you all can't agree on the fundamentals.

Let's see what the bible says about the will of god.

“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness” (2 Timothy 3:16).

"Matthew 5:17-20

The Fulfillment of the Law

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."


I wouldn't expect a cafeteria christian to know the actual rebuttal to New Testament vs Old Testament argument though. This is what I am talking about, explain to me why you do not follow the teachings of the old testament?

[PickleBrah]

This is why it's so difficult to take you all serious. Even among your own religion you all can't agree on the fundamentals.

Let's see what the bible says about the will of god.

“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness” (2 Timothy 3:16).

"Matthew 5:17-20

The Fulfillment of the Law

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."


I wouldn't expect a cafeteria christian to know the actual rebuttal to New Testament vs Old Testament argument though. This is what I am talking about, explain to me why you do not follow the teachings of the old testament?

It really is funny how you still managed to type every bit of that out, and yet, never answered a single thing. I am not a Christian, but have done extensive research into it and what they believe and how it differs from Islam & Judaism. I'm by no means an expert on the matter, but know enough to have a debate when one criticizes the New Testament of promoting ****philia. Now, would you like to show me where in the New Testament this is promoted, or would you like to continually prove my point about you not understanding this subject?

[Lawlstud]

It really is funny how you still managed to type every bit of that out, and yet, never answered a single thing. I am not a Christian, but have done extensive research into it and what they believe and how it differs from Islam & Judaism. I'm by no means an expert on the matter, but know enough to have a debate when one criticizes the New Testament of promoting ****philia. Now, would you like to show me where in the New Testament this is promoted, or would you like to continually prove my point about you not understanding this subject?

I never said anything about the new testament the other guy did, I just criticized how you side stepped the issue when both bibles are Christian.

The answer more Christians give however, is Jesus dying on the cross fulfilled the Old Testament demands.

You should probably attempt to keep straight the people you're talking to.