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    If someone will text me bright and early tomorrow as a reminder, I will be squatting again and can make a useful tip video some things about hands and widths and things to look for.

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    Originally Posted by SophieM View Post
    Good luck with the squat form. For me, that's an area I will forever be working to improve.
    lol I think this is true for everyone except a very small group of genetic outliers!

    Tina, it does look to me like front squats come a lot more naturally to you than back squats. At least, your front squat videos always look super easy and perfect form (though occasionally slow if you're really pushing yourself), whereas with back squats it looks like you have to work harder. Does it feel like that also?
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    Originally Posted by bigwade800 View Post
    The latter was more what I was thinking

    One of the sessions I do for the mutli sports girls, Missy mainly, is have them squat against only band tension for speed. This is a great teacher for speed, obviouslyi, and then staying upright and loading correctly. Even with a little band tension, a mistake reveals quickly where the issue is form wise.
    Sounds like power cleans would fit perfectly on that day?!!

    I like the idea of a second day. I'm a little afraid that if its band squats I'll flake out...I hate to complain all the time, but in all honesty, if I'm tired, I doubt I would set anything up. the only thing I can semi-imagine working is

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    Originally Posted by penny0527 View Post
    The coaches eye was helpful. I usually write notes on my board of what I need work on. Next Tuesday will be "lead with pushing the knees out." Pushing the hips forward to set up was something I had to learn. I look like a robot when I set up for a squat because it's the only way I can seem to get my elbows down and hips forward. Walk back, hips forward, elbows down, squat. I wpsh I could be one of those people who does it all at once but Im not.
    Robot is a good way to be...in theory it gets done the same way every time.

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    I used to squat twice a week and liked it. Now I'm afraid my hips may not like it so I'm afraid to change it.
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    Originally Posted by bigwade800 View Post
    If someone will text me bright and early tomorrow as a reminder, I will be squatting again and can make a useful tip video some things about hands and widths and things to look for.

    post questions here as well and I'll do my best to answer
    I have a feeling my idea of bright and early is different from yours.

    Originally Posted by lazyaj View Post
    lol I think this is true for everyone except a very small group of genetic outliers!

    Tina, it does look to me like front squats come a lot more naturally to you than back squats. At least, your front squat videos always look super easy and perfect form (though occasionally slow if you're really pushing yourself), whereas with back squats it looks like you have to work harder. Does it feel like that also?
    FS do feel better in general, BUT they are usually at reduced volume and reduced intensity...singles do have a lot of intensity, but over relatively quick. They also require more precision/technique in form, BS I can/do muscle up.

    BS, I don't know...there's always been form issues and trying to find a fix has been hard. If I can learn to keep multiple areas tight at the same time, without actively thinking about it (too much to ask?), I'll be able to focus on what my individual bodyparts should be doing.
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    Originally Posted by tina722 View Post

    BS, I don't know...there's always been form issues and trying to find a fix has been hard. If I can learn to keep multiple areas tight at the same time, without actively thinking about it (too much to ask?), I'll be able to focus on what my individual bodyparts should be doing.
    My traveling has meant that I only get 3 squat training days per month for the last few months. More freq should help a lot.
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    Originally Posted by tina722 View Post
    BS, I don't know...there's always been form issues and trying to find a fix has been hard. If I can learn to keep multiple areas tight at the same time, without actively thinking about it (too much to ask?), I'll be able to focus on what my individual bodyparts should be doing.
    Squats are an old nemesis of mine. If you find a solution to all of this ^^^, please do let me know.
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    Originally Posted by HARRYBEAST View Post
    damn it. I need to use my whiteboard like this. Great idea
    Mine is in front of me when I squat so I usually write in big letters the one thing I need to work on. When I look forward to set up its right there.
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    Originally Posted by penny0527 View Post
    Mine is in front of me when I squat so I usually write in big letters the one thing I need to work on. When I look forward to set up its right there.
    I like this idea. I usually write cues in my training notebook to review before work sets
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    Originally Posted by HARRYBEAST View Post
    I like this idea. I usually write cues in my training notebook to review before work sets
    I should do this ... Or maybe bring in some erasable pens (ones that work on mirrors) and just write **** down before squatting.
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    I did deadlift and bench#2 over the weekend. Uneventful again. I was traveling, so no videos.


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    - Moved hands out and really focused on keeping elbows down. I was feeling some lat activation that I haven't noticed before. I was really proud of the "big" jumps that I was doing. I don't always have the confidence for it - just takes some time under the bar. The double at 220 and the second double at 230 (but first in the youtube video - mixed up) moved really nicely. I'll need to set up the bar racks lower in the future, it's not high enough to clear the racks anymore and I ran into trouble trying to rerack the 235 single. I almost did a double, but I was leaning too much to set up tightly.

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    Good job on moving that weight!

    Next thing to start thinking about, probably, which I was being yelled at for (in a good way, not a bad one), is knees.

    Also, it's really difficult to see, but are you squatting to depth?
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    ^^no not to depth. lol. I switched to flats a month ago and very rarely hit it now. Eventually. Or not.

    knees are already on the list. along with a million other things. ugh.
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    Originally Posted by tina722 View Post
    ^^no not to depth. lol. I switched to flats a month ago and very rarely hit it now. Eventually. Or not.

    knees are already on the list. along with a million other things. ugh.
    Yeah, there are a million-and-one things to worry about. I agree.

    Piece of advice... squat to depth. it helps a lot
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    Originally Posted by MatTheCur View Post
    Yeah, there are a million-and-one things to worry about. I agree.

    Piece of advice... squat to depth. it helps a lot
    Thanks...I'll be working on it. Probably take another squat cycle. Or maybe go back to my heeled shoes eventually.
    Just to be clear , I'm not trying to squat high. Just changing up a lot.

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    I need to do a video...remind me
    yes, I was going to ask! My hands moved several inches out and wanted to hear what else you had to say about hand placement.
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    Originally Posted by bigwade800 View Post
    I need to do a video...remind me
    Coach, do a vid... oh right, doesn't work if you're not actually home yet. Sh!t.

    Don't worry, Tina, I'll get on him to do a vid before we go do anything not gym related tonight

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    Thanks...I'll be working on it. Probably take another squat cycle. Or maybe go back to my heeled shoes eventually.
    Just to be clear , I'm not trying to squat high. Just changing up a lot.
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    ^^Wade called me out this AM, so my feelings were hurt already.

    Not really (feelings not hurt).


    Its good to have it mentioned. I always want to slack at my workouts, embarrassment is a good detour. And now if it doesn't improve, I can really be called out.
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    Piece of advice... squat to depth. it helps a lot
    If only it were that easy....
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    If only it were that easy....
    I always hit depth but rarely while squatting
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    and so it begins

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    Originally Posted by penny0527 View Post
    If only it were that easy....
    But... But...
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    it is

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    20170726 c3w18 bench

    Warmup bench
    bar, 65, 85xsome

    pause BP
    105x2
    110x1
    120x1
    125x1 for 3 or 4 sets

    - These felt pretty good, but I still couldn't get my butt to stay down. I played around with where to put my feet, but I'm not sure that it helped any. I think moving to a different bench would probably do it - its a lot lower/thinner. I only have a few sets on video, before someone took my recording spot.

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    Originally Posted by tina722 View Post
    - These felt pretty good, but I still couldn't get my butt to stay down.
    It's like the butt problems from my journal just transferred over to your journal, lol. Sorry?

    Strong squats! For some reason, my only depth issues currently are going too deep (why, I have no idea), but I used to have issues with being high. I had one really good visual image in my head that used to help get me down the last little bit. As soon as I hit resistance and I thought I was at depth (which I wasn't), I pictured a giant hook coming out of the ground, hooking me under the @ss and dragging me down a few more inches. For some reason, that always worked. Could just be me though, lol.
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    Forget everything I said about bs vs fs - those bs doubles at 230 looked awesome!
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    20170729 c3w18 deadlifts

    fs wu - bit more than normal, hips are sore

    paused fs
    150x1 https://youtu.be/U5do-j-WB-0
    135x4x3 no pause

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    235x1

    trap bar
    265x1 https://youtu.be/_TV-JxQue0M
    235x3x3

    no chains, not sure where they went.

    weighted ghr, leg press, sldl, calves, abs. I'm also counting back off fs and trap as assistance.


    Out of order because there's no space/equipment. I didn't think I would get to trap bar at first, but it finally settled down a bit. FS and trap were a max-ish for today. deadlifts are easy, but I guess at least I'm not failing anymore.
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    20170730 c3w18 bench#2

    rear delts, raises and abs to warmup

    bench to warmup
    bar,65,85xsome

    2ct pause
    105x3x3
    115x3
    120x3

    cgbp
    105x3
    115x3
    115x5 rpe 8

    pp
    45,65,75
    85x3
    65x6x3

    rows, pulldowns, curls, abs

    This is the other bench the gym has, my butt seems to stay down a little better. It's definitely easier on my hips for placing my feet wherever I want. Extra sets at 105 were because form was off. I was tentative and not holding the pause strong enough. CGBP moved really well. the extra set here is because I still had energy and wanted some volume. PP and assistance as normal.

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    I've also been having a problem keeping my butt down during bench
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