lets just stop eating fish, meat and chicken just because the animals are suffering when they get killed
animals have feelings too
FUK MAN vegetarians legit make me rage
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05-30-2015, 12:35 AM #6
ITT: OP's logic is that all vegetarians and vegans avoid meat due to the animals being killed and having feelings.
There are other reasons, OP. It's more energy efficient to consume plant-based foods. Remember that food loses energy the more it's transferred from organism to organism, and only 80-95% of the original energy remains from one trophic level to the next. Consuming an autotroph (plant) that makes biomass from sunlight will provide you with more energy than consuming a heterotroph that consumed the autotroph.
Also, bear in mind that much of the meat in the grocery stores today is heavily processed and corn-fed. The meat itself isn't inherently bad - to a degree- but the manner by which it is processed is worth consideration.
Not a vegetation But I don't eat very much meat, and I only eat grass-fed organic meat when I do.
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05-30-2015, 12:36 AM #7
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Nothing wrong with being vegetarian or vegan it's admirable and shows compassion and the ability to stand by their beliefs. But there is something wrong with being a militant vegetarian or vegan and imposing your own moral and ethic ideals upon those around you. Being a vegetarian or vegan doesn't necessarily make you a better human being and to pretend it does is pitiful.
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It displays ignorance, nothing more. Being in favor decent treatment of farm animals/animals in general is one thing and perfectly logical, but taking it as far as making it out to be some sort of evil thing to eat them altogether is nonsense.
On one hand, vegans/vegetarians say that with our superior intelligence, it would be wrong for us to consume meat like other animals do, as we should be superior enough to rise above such behavior. Then they turn around and also state that animals are to be considered equal with humans, and if that's the case, then it wouldn't make sense to say we should be more superior to them to an extent of denying natural dietary behaviors. Pick a stance and be consistent about it.
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05-30-2015, 12:47 AM #17
Eating meat is supporting animal cruelty
The thing the haters might miss is the distance they have from the food they eat. In the past people hunted out of necessity, now we gather large amounts of animals to mass slaughter despite the abundance of vegetarian food
vegetarian/vegan diet is healthier and is environmentally conscious
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I respect the compassionate and moral principles of veganism (I was a vegan for 2 years) but I find that they can be a little short sighted in their suggestion of veganism as a diet.
For example, I personally have trouble digesting a lot of staple vegan foods. My body does not perform well when I eat any type of grain frequently. So for me, that cuts out bread, pasta, rice, quinoa, oats and so on. My body also doesn't do well on high fructose intake, so I can't make up the carbs from fruit either, I also struggle to digest lentils and beans. I refuse to drink soy milk because of it's estrogenic effects and almond milk is actually awful for the environment.
So for me, as a vegan my diet would consist almost exclusively of just vegetables. In which case I would probably have to eat a significant quantity to be satiated which in turn means not only spending a lot of time eating but also a lot of money which I just don't have to put towards food.
It also kind of bugs me when vegans say it's 'Healthier'. Given the landscape of nutritional research, it's almost impossible to definitively say any diet is healthier. There are actually a lot of factors about a vegan diet that are seen as less healthy, such as the omega 6 to 3 ratio.
Like I say, I have empathy for the compassion but I think they tend to oversimplify the issue"The man who despises himself tries to gain self-esteem from sexual adventure – which can’t be done, because sex is not the cause, but an effect and an expression of a man’s sense of his own value." - Ayn Rand
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But do you actually believe that vegetarians/vegans who claim to obstain from eating beef/chicken/pork/etc who cite environmental concerns as their reason are truly doing it strictly for those reasons, or are they just trying extremely hard to make a logical point to their illogical stance on the issue? If environmental concerns are their issue, then they should have no problem with someone hunting and cleaning their own game to eat, for example, but they never seem to be cool with that either.
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Lol I love hearing vegan and gluten free *******s talk to each other about how healthy they supposedly are, and yet they still look like chit.
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-Dat ass CREW
-Always talking about ass CREW
-Sniffs hard as fck when girl walks by to try to smell her ass CREW
-Rocky II and IV have the best montage CREW
-Capitalizes the word crew for no reason CREW
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