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    Vegetarians & Vegans are the BIGGEST idiots on this planet (100% DEAD SRS)

    lets just stop eating fish, meat and chicken just because the animals are suffering when they get killed

    animals have feelings too

    FUK MAN vegetarians legit make me rage
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    plants are killed too and they suffer as well...

    i think we should only concern that animals should feel the less amount of pain possible when killed
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    cant hate on compassion
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    hey op i wanted to congratulate you on this great thread repped
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    Originally Posted by swolenpenor View Post
    plants are killed too and they suffer as well...
    lets stop having electricity and running water cause animals in the wild suffer because of it

    matter of fact lets all leave this planet and leave it for the animals. we are taking up their space..
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    ITT: OP's logic is that all vegetarians and vegans avoid meat due to the animals being killed and having feelings.

    There are other reasons, OP. It's more energy efficient to consume plant-based foods. Remember that food loses energy the more it's transferred from organism to organism, and only 80-95% of the original energy remains from one trophic level to the next. Consuming an autotroph (plant) that makes biomass from sunlight will provide you with more energy than consuming a heterotroph that consumed the autotroph.

    Also, bear in mind that much of the meat in the grocery stores today is heavily processed and corn-fed. The meat itself isn't inherently bad - to a degree- but the manner by which it is processed is worth consideration.

    Not a vegetation But I don't eat very much meat, and I only eat grass-fed organic meat when I do.
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    Nothing wrong with being vegetarian or vegan it's admirable and shows compassion and the ability to stand by their beliefs. But there is something wrong with being a militant vegetarian or vegan and imposing your own moral and ethic ideals upon those around you. Being a vegetarian or vegan doesn't necessarily make you a better human being and to pretend it does is pitiful.
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    What annoys me the most is people who claim to be vegetarian, but still eat fish. Fish is still meat that came from a living animal, and that was the entire premise of their issues with conforming to our natural state as omnivores...
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    Originally Posted by lalanaomi View Post
    ITT: OP's logic is that all vegetarians and vegans avoid meat due to the animals being killed and having feelings.

    There are other reasons, OP. It's more energy efficient to consume plant-based foods. Remember that food loses energy the more it's transferred from organism to organism, and only 80-95% of the original energy remains from one trophic level to the next. Consuming an autotroph (plant) that makes biomass from sunlight will provide you with more energy than consuming a heterotroph that consumed the autotroph.

    Also, bear in mind that much of the meat in the grocery stores today is heavily processed and corn-fed. The meat itself isn't inherently bad - to a degree- but the manner by which it is processed is worth consideration.

    Not a vegetation But I don't eat very much meat, and I only eat grass-fed organic meat when I do.
    its also more energy efficient to not drive cars, use electricity, drink clean water

    lets go ahead and do that

    lets leave this planet and move to mars. very efficient
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    Originally Posted by lalanaomi View Post
    ITT: OP's logic is that all vegetarians and vegans avoid meat due to the animals being killed and having feelings.

    There are other reasons, OP. It's more energy efficient to consume plant-based foods. Remember that food loses energy the more it's transferred from organism to organism, and only 80-95% of the original energy remains from one trophic level to the next. Consuming an autotroph (plant) that makes biomass from sunlight will provide you with more energy than consuming a heterotroph that consumed the autotroph.

    Also, bear in mind that much of the meat in the grocery stores today is heavily processed and corn-fed. The meat itself isn't inherently bad - to a degree- but the manner by which it is processed is worth consideration.

    Not a vegetation But I don't eat very much meat, and I only eat grass-fed organic meat when I do.

    he was obviously just talking about "these" type of vegetarians

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    Originally Posted by BrightonBomber View Post
    Nothing wrong with being vegetarian or vegan it's admirable and shows compassion and the ability to stand by their beliefs. But there is something wrong with being a militant vegetarian or vegan and imposing your own moral and ethic ideals upon those around you. Being a vegetarian or vegan doesn't necessarily make you a better human being and to pretend it does is pitiful.
    vegans & vegetarians are fuking hypocrites

    there are millions of humans suffering

    yet they care more about some stupid cows or chicken running around

    those poor babies
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    Originally Posted by Fukingsikkbruh View Post
    lets just stop eating fish, meat and chicken just because the animals are suffering when they get killed

    animals have feelings too

    FUK MAN vegetarians legit make me rage
    Reevaluate your life. If the chit other people eats make you rage, you have serious psychological issues LOL. You dumb fuk.

    I am a meat eater. I don't give a flying fuk if other people are not. Keep the preachin' outta my face and we're cool.
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    Originally Posted by BrightonBomber View Post
    Nothing wrong with being vegetarian or vegan it's admirable and shows compassion and the ability to stand by their beliefs. But there is something wrong with being a militant vegetarian or vegan and imposing your own moral and ethic ideals upon those around you. Being a vegetarian or vegan doesn't necessarily make you a better human being and to pretend it does is pitiful.
    It displays ignorance, nothing more. Being in favor decent treatment of farm animals/animals in general is one thing and perfectly logical, but taking it as far as making it out to be some sort of evil thing to eat them altogether is nonsense.

    On one hand, vegans/vegetarians say that with our superior intelligence, it would be wrong for us to consume meat like other animals do, as we should be superior enough to rise above such behavior. Then they turn around and also state that animals are to be considered equal with humans, and if that's the case, then it wouldn't make sense to say we should be more superior to them to an extent of denying natural dietary behaviors. Pick a stance and be consistent about it.
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    I want to eat humans. Lol just lol @ vegans saying meat is murder as if murder is bad.
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    Originally Posted by jakesonyou69 View Post
    What annoys me the most is people who claim to be vegetarian, but still eat fish. Fish is still meat that came from a living animal, and that was the entire premise of their issues with conforming to our natural state as omnivores...
    I know what you mean but some people are vegetarians for ethical / environmental reasons. Their argument is that raising cattle is bad for the environment, blah blah blah... etc. It's a legit point but I like my meat too much.
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    strong judging OP

    if someone complains about your eating decisions, sure, tell them off

    but if someone wants to be vegan/vegetarian, so what?

    live and let live
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    Eating meat is supporting animal cruelty

    The thing the haters might miss is the distance they have from the food they eat. In the past people hunted out of necessity, now we gather large amounts of animals to mass slaughter despite the abundance of vegetarian food

    vegetarian/vegan diet is healthier and is environmentally conscious
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    Originally Posted by Kabamaro View Post
    Eating meat is supporting animal cruelty

    The thing the haters might miss is the distance they have from the food they eat. In the past people hunted out of necessity, now we gather large amounts of animals to mass slaughter despite the abundance of vegetarian food

    vegetarian/vegan diet is healthier and is environmentally conscious
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    Originally Posted by lalanaomi View Post
    ITT: OP's logic is that all vegetarians and vegans avoid meat due to the animals being killed and having feelings.

    There are other reasons, OP. It's more energy efficient to consume plant-based foods. Remember that food loses energy the more it's transferred from organism to organism, and only 80-95% of the original energy remains from one trophic level to the next. Consuming an autotroph (plant) that makes biomass from sunlight will provide you with more energy than consuming a heterotroph that consumed the autotroph.

    Also, bear in mind that much of the meat in the grocery stores today is heavily processed and corn-fed. The meat itself isn't inherently bad - to a degree- but the manner by which it is processed is worth consideration.

    Not a vegetation But I don't eat very much meat, and I only eat grass-fed organic meat when I do.
    you are fuking stupid holy ****. why are you assuming that meat eaters dont include plants in their food? we eat meat and plant based food as well. dont try to sound smart with your year 8 biology terms (autotroph, heterotroph), you have no idea wtf you're going on about. ugly fukn btch
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    Originally Posted by Kabamaro View Post
    Eating meat is supporting animal cruelty

    The thing the haters might miss is the distance they have from the is food they eat. In the past people hunted out of necessity, now we gather large amounts of animals to mass slaughter despite the abundance of vegetarian food

    vegetarian/vegan diet is healthier and is environmentally conscious
    lul. That you vegan gains?
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    I respect the compassionate and moral principles of veganism (I was a vegan for 2 years) but I find that they can be a little short sighted in their suggestion of veganism as a diet.

    For example, I personally have trouble digesting a lot of staple vegan foods. My body does not perform well when I eat any type of grain frequently. So for me, that cuts out bread, pasta, rice, quinoa, oats and so on. My body also doesn't do well on high fructose intake, so I can't make up the carbs from fruit either, I also struggle to digest lentils and beans. I refuse to drink soy milk because of it's estrogenic effects and almond milk is actually awful for the environment.

    So for me, as a vegan my diet would consist almost exclusively of just vegetables. In which case I would probably have to eat a significant quantity to be satiated which in turn means not only spending a lot of time eating but also a lot of money which I just don't have to put towards food.

    It also kind of bugs me when vegans say it's 'Healthier'. Given the landscape of nutritional research, it's almost impossible to definitively say any diet is healthier. There are actually a lot of factors about a vegan diet that are seen as less healthy, such as the omega 6 to 3 ratio.

    Like I say, I have empathy for the compassion but I think they tend to oversimplify the issue
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    They seem to think that animals in the wild live in blissful harmony and get to retire in staffed nursing homes with medical supervision, rather than ripping each other apart in a far more grisly manner than any abattoir. Maybe veganism is a symptom of watching too many Disney cartoons.
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    Originally Posted by MidnightSun View Post
    I know what you mean but some people are vegetarians for ethical / environmental reasons. Their argument is that raising cattle is bad for the environment, blah blah blah... etc. It's a legit point but I like my meat too much.
    But do you actually believe that vegetarians/vegans who claim to obstain from eating beef/chicken/pork/etc who cite environmental concerns as their reason are truly doing it strictly for those reasons, or are they just trying extremely hard to make a logical point to their illogical stance on the issue? If environmental concerns are their issue, then they should have no problem with someone hunting and cleaning their own game to eat, for example, but they never seem to be cool with that either.
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    Originally Posted by lalanaomi View Post
    ITT: OP's logic is that all vegetarians and vegans avoid meat due to the animals being killed and having feelings.

    There are other reasons, OP. It's more energy efficient to consume plant-based foods. Remember that food loses energy the more it's transferred from organism to organism, and only 80-95% of the original energy remains from one trophic level to the next. Consuming an autotroph (plant) that makes biomass from sunlight will provide you with more energy than consuming a heterotroph that consumed the autotroph.

    Also, bear in mind that much of the meat in the grocery stores today is heavily processed and corn-fed. The meat itself isn't inherently bad - to a degree- but the manner by which it is processed is worth consideration.

    Not a vegetation But I don't eat very much meat, and I only eat grass-fed organic meat when I do.
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    Originally Posted by nzgs View Post
    They seem to think that animals in the wild live in blissful harmony and get to retire in staffed nursing homes with medical supervision, rather than ripping each other apart in a far more grisly manner than any abattoir. Maybe veganism is a symptom of watching too many Disney cartoons.
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    Originally Posted by nzgs View Post
    They seem to think that animals in the wild live in blissful harmony and get to retire in staffed nursing homes with medical supervision, rather than ripping each other apart in a far more grisly manner than any abattoir. Maybe veganism is a symptom of watching too many Disney cartoons.
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    Originally Posted by Kabamaro View Post
    Eating meat is supporting animal cruelty

    The thing the haters might miss is the distance they have from the food they eat. In the past people hunted out of necessity, now we gather large amounts of animals to mass slaughter despite the abundance of vegetarian food

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