Why are liberals unpopular on this forum?

[InstantLoser]

-Censorship is a perversion of political correctness in the extent that it happens it is an unfortunate side effect and should be worked against. Free speech isn't 100% free there is usually a line. I believe I shouldn't be able to threaten, spread lies or gravely insult you without consequence.
-debatable and to be honest it sounds far-fetched. perhaps some elements of feminism have this agenda but hardly the majority. i don't believe so at least.
-No troll just european, don't act like you haven't got a welfare state in the US as well it's just less extensive.

Just because we have a welfare state doesn't mean that's a good thing.

[MrVeryPopular]

it's not liberalism, it's beta-leftist-liberalism, the kind that is destroying your country sweden, aka politically correctness

YES! Repped. I would move to italy if I could brah, im an italian American. This country is going to chit before the worlds eyes thanks to these liberal values.

[NachoBrah]

Maybe Vanger doesn't support gay marriage? Whatever his reasons, wouldn't an open minded liberal be accepting of his beliefs?

Feminism is not about equal rights in today's world, it's about advancing women to a superior position in society while hiding behind an illusion that the fight is about equality. We have the President of the United States getting on TV talking about how women supposedly make $0.77 for every $1 that a male makes. (This is a misleading statistic, in case you live under a rock and/or are delusional.) Modern feminism is responsible for this hogwash.

Vagner the composer?

As for the wage gap you are right it's nominal and doesn't adjust for hours worked, what kind of employment, productivity etc. But it's still a problem women shouldn't be less productive or work low paid jobs this is called sex segregation and I'd say it's an at least moderately important issue. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_segregation

[NachoBrah]

My dislike of liberal thinking basically stems from their insistence that they're "open minded" despite being the most closed minded group of people in the world.

Would you say other ideologies are more open-minded, if so in what way?

[MojoTheMonkey]

YES! Repped. I would move to italy if I could brah, im an italian American. This country is going to chit before the worlds eyes thanks to these liberal values.

I would also like to move from the increasingly SJW Marxist USA to my origin country. Unfortunately that would be Sweden. Out of the frying pan into the fire.

[NachoBrah]

Canadian Liberals have these values in common:

-Equality among all races/religions/minorities

-Pro-choice

-higher taxes for corporations and higher earning people/groups

-Keeping religion out of politics

Except for higher taxes on corporation those are adirable values I'd say

[InstantLoser]

Vagner the composer?

As for the wage gap you are right it's nominal and doesn't adjust for hours worked, what kind of employment, productivity etc. But it's still a problem women shouldn't be less productive or work low paid jobs this is called sex segregation and I'd say it's an at least moderately important issue. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_segregation

Women segregate themselves by choice. Nobody can make you choose a specific job field, or make you work hard. If you choose to work less hours, and easier less risky jobs, you will earn a smaller pay check. There's no great mystery.

[TsarChasm]

I honestly think most people identify with libertarian beliefs in this country which is basically classic liberalism. Not this progressive nonsense.

[RAdaRuggedMan]

In on high school drop outs claiming it's because they are hipsters with neckbeards who drink Starbucks and that it's totally different.

[willBstrong]

Most are sheeple dbags

[ClarkCheekyKent]

Because as much as the MISC would like to think that it hosts a bunch of people that are somehow intellectually and physically superior to the normal population it is actually full of polarized dumbfuks just like the rest of the world who like to throw around terms like lib and conservative as if it's an insult.

can't not rep this post

edit: I'd like to add that pretty much every political stance on anything has it's flaws and humans will be *******s either way

[Soonerjohn]

Classic liberals such as JFK would be hated by modern liberals.

[NachoBrah]

Because liberals are thieves by nature. Wealth redistribution = stealing.

Highly debatable and even if you call it stealing it might be good for a society as a whole to redistribute wealth in certain ways. If everyone profits from it in the end isn't it worth it to break with principle?

[Smokhey]

This forum has a lot of uneducated hypocritical simpletons on, srs. Many are the same bitter losers you'll find on 4chan and sites like that, except the ones here go to the gym.

[PuppiesOnAcid]

I don't know either.

[NachoBrah]

You don't live in the US.

Your day is coming with the Muslims though. Your only hope is with Åkesson, but you probably hate him.

I'm actually Spanish living in Sweden. i should put that in my signature.

[Neil4123]

Would you say other ideologies are more open-minded, if so in what way?

I would not. I don't see open mindedness as a good thing, I see it as a weakness. Unwillingness to stand behind your own opinions, etc. Point is, liberals view themselves as open minded when really they aren't. Speak against homosexuality, pro choice, or some other liberal ideology and you're called a bigot etc. Wouldn't someone who's truly open minded look at a racist person and say something like "I may not agree with his opinon, but he was raised a certain way, so I understand his view?"

Your opinions about "sex segregation" are debatable. Men and women are different man, they think differently, act differently. It doesn't have to be a bad thing.

[InstantLoser]

Highly debatable and even if you call it stealing it might be good for a society as a whole to redistribute wealth in certain ways. If everyone profits from it in the end isn't it worth it to break with principle?

So you're now debating whether theft is an amoral act. This alone should negate any further "points" you may try to make in the minds of anyone reading this thread. Stealing from one group of people (who earned their money) and giving that money to another group (who sit on their lazy asses collecting a check) is an indefensible act.

[hellbilly1912]

We're a bunch of guys that put ourselves on intensive diets and extremely vigorous exercise regimens. For fun.

And you expect us to be accepting of liberals?

[NachoBrah]

Just because we have a welfare state doesn't mean that's a good thing.

right it's a governmental tool like many others and when implemented correctly it can help a society greatly

[MojoTheMonkey]

I'm actually Spanish living in Sweden. i should put that in my signature.

So lazy Spainard work ethic combined with ultra liberal Swedish economic policy. Sounds like you found your little piece of heaven.

[NachoBrah]

Women segregate themselves by choice. Nobody can make you choose a specific job field, or make you work hard. If you choose to work less hours, and easier less risky jobs, you will earn a smaller pay check. There's no great mystery.

Thieves also steal by choice it's still an issue for everyone. If half the workforce isn't as productive as they could be that's a lot of value lost if nothingelse.

[ClarkCheekyKent]

it's not liberalism, it's beta-leftist-liberalism, the kind that is destroying your country sweden, aka politically correctness

I'm half turkish and I'll move to italy, steal your job and fuk your bitch for this post m8

wait wut

[gmstaley]

Because Liberalism is stupid.

Liberals think with their heart, Conservatives think with their brain.

[Meatie]

liberalism to europeans is a lot different to what it is in the states. Guarantee if any european come to the states they'd end up being more conservative than they think

[NachoBrah]

I would not. I don't see open mindedness as a good thing, I see it as a weakness. Unwillingness to stand behind your own opinions, etc. Point is, liberals view themselves as open minded when really they aren't. Speak against homosexuality, pro choice, or some other liberal ideology and you're called a bigot etc. Wouldn't someone who's truly open minded look at a racist person and say something like "I may not agree with his opinon, but he was raised a certain way, so I understand his view?"

Your opinions about "sex segregation" are debatable. Men and women are different man, they think differently, act differently. It doesn't have to be a bad thing.

we disagree then I oppose all dogma be it religious, political or personal

[PersianGenetics]

We're a bunch of guys that put ourselves on intensive diets and extremely vigorous exercise regimens. For fun.

And you expect us to be accepting of liberals?

Aren't most elite athletes in the US black?
And aren't black people heavily liberal?
And i'm sure their diets and exercise regimens are 50x what anyone on here does, lol.

[Neil4123]

Highly debatable and even if you call it stealing it might be good for a society as a whole to redistribute wealth in certain ways. If everyone profits from it in the end isn't it worth it to break with principle?

No actually it isn't a good thing. People who work for their money should be able to keep more of it, rather than give it to one who did nothing to earn it. People have to earn their own keep. I fail to see how you can't understand this concept, this is the core of conservative thinking. I can understand your viewpoint, you feel sorry for people who can't earn a living for themselves, I just disagree with it very strongly.

[NachoBrah]

So lazy Spainard work ethic combined with ultra liberal Swedish economic policy. Sounds like you found your little piece of heaven.

cheers brah

[Soonerjohn]

We're a bunch of guys that put ourselves on intensive diets and extremely vigorous exercise regimens. For fun.

And you expect us to be accepting of liberals?

lol, so true. Sometimes I wonder if all the time and pain spent on lifting is time well spent. Then I go visit my liberal sister and immediately head to the gym.