Got rejected again? Honestly, is it because I am ugly? (pic)

[KFM219]

You're not ugly, but you're not good looking either. However, you do have a "soft" vibe based on your pics. You're like the huggable teddy bear that girls put in the friend zone. Part of that is like others have mentioned, the weight you're carrying in your face. Losing body fat will tighten that up a bit. Ditch the beard. You need to give off a stronger, more masculine vibe.

[KyleMQuinn]

Not ugly at all man. There are a million factors as to why you may have been rejected. Look at it like this man, women don't know what they want. If one girl doesn't like you, there are two girls who would like you. Be who you are and if they can't accept that then what the Hell does it matter? That's one girl on this whole entire planet. They're opinion of you is invalid. Be confident in who you are and the confidence will shine and make you more appealing. Some girls just suck

[PuzzledMidget]

IMO you are all good bro, average/10 but the weight makes you look older to me about 30 - 35
Keep with the excercise and you'll be better looking every day

[mccoy19]

Fact that you aren't afraid or intimidated to ask girls out, etc. is huge. If I were in your shoes my priority #1 would be to lose all the excess fat. You hold a lot of it in your face, so that would help a ton. Clean up the diet, brah. You said you want a girl you're attracted to - otherwise you see no point. Sad truth is that is typically a two way street. IE: Most girls want to be attracted to the guy. Lose the weight, change up the haircut... boom.... you'll be landing girls left and right. And since you already have the confidence to approach... it'll be THAT much easier once you're in shape.

[edgar6190]

You can improve alot.
Cut ur hair. U can cut it with 1 on sides and 3-4 on top.
Lose weight
Shave
Start lifting.
Wear better clothes

[Danakind]

You're not ugly, but you're not good looking either. However, you do have a "soft" vibe based on your pics. You're like the huggable teddy bear that girls put in the friend zone. Part of that is like others have mentioned, the weight you're carrying in your face. Losing body fat will tighten that up a bit. Ditch the beard. You need to give off a stronger, more masculine vibe.

This. High trust face = no sexual value

[jram2323]

Stop putting yourself down, you're not ugly. Myron facial hair and glasses. You'd have a better jaw line if you lost some weight. Btw, the guys who get rejected the most are also the guys who get laid the most. Don't be a sad kunt, be a sick kunt. Here's some motivation:

[AwFukHi]

Personally, I like your hair and glasses. I agree with everyone saying you need to lose some weight. I think that's the only thing holding you back physically.

[Kev1972]

You don't look bad man. You know you need to tone up some, serious diet for a couple months, maybe go no carb. You will look a ton better without those chubby chipmunk cheeks.

[MeFromG]

Stop putting yourself down, you're not ugly. Myron facial hair and glasses. You'd have a better jaw line if you lost some weight. Btw, the guys who get rejected the most are also the guys who get laid the most. Don't be a sad kunt, be a sick kunt. Here's some motivation:

*Lol* - All I understood was ... sick ckunt... zyzz ckunt... shredded... fucck... some more fucck... and much more sick ckunt... etc. etc. - Oh man.

[AwareAF]

Most chicks reject you because they are just off the market. Just assume that last girl would have said yes but she said no because she already was interested in someone else. I always assume I could have got her.. Never let someone make you feel like you weren't good enough for her. Become a bit narcissistic if you have to about the whole thing, but keep it in check lol.

[KidKhaleel]

I think you're an average looking brown dude tbh. Lose some weight for facial aesthetics and confidence and change the hairdoo and youll be fine. We're all gonna make it brah.

[gadiper]

Hey man , don't take these rejections personally .. every guy gets rejected even good looking dudes , it doesn't always has to do with looks .. sometimes the girl isn't on the mood , your'e not her type etc. just keep trying , with chicks its the 'big numbers rule' the more you try the more likely you will experience success.

[icewill36]

OP you look a guy that is too nice. women like guys who look like they wont put up with their sh!t

[Cynic09]

Let's be real here, not trying to hurt his feelings and no sugar coating.

When you guys are telling him he looks like the average indian dude = ugly that's what comes to most ppl's mind.
He needs to be above average, especially if he's going for white girls. I'm guessing he's going for non-indians in this case, same shiet b/c average guys are invisible to girls.

The fat around his face makes him look more like a guy girls would friendzone. He needs to lose the fat b/c it doesn't come off as anyway muscular and makes him look flamboyant.

[BosnianBuilder]

I'll be honest with you unlike these guys. If you're going after attractive white women, yes you're not good looking enough. I see no reason why you can't pull average girls though.

[MUSIKALPRoPHET]

Sup dude, you need to do what this guy did.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=152897401

1. Go on an epic cut.
2. Develop a sense of style.
3. Understand that the world is shallow. Once you become better looking , its a night/day difference how youll be treated by wimmen.
4. Toss the glasses. Glasses= stereotypical nerd look. Even though nerd is "in" now. But glasses kinda nerd isn't. I dunno if that makes sense.
I wear contacts and never ever wear glasses, only at home. Glasses are too distracting on the face. IMO

[UsernameOfPeace]

Honest post -

you're not ugly. and there are guys much uglier than u with girls

but in ur current state you're not good looking enough to attract a lot of women

the important and good thing is that ur problems are all fixable

ur face is very fat, get lean and ull look much better guaranteed. dont become a skinny kunt tho, lift as well.

ur hair is ok.

ur facial hair is annoying to look at and very typical of indians/pakistanis etc

just grow a proper beard and trim it short. don't clean shave tho cos ur face will look even fatter without the hair givin the illusion of a more prominent jawline

i honestly dont see a problem with those glasses, theyre some of the better ones ive seen.

i dont know how u carry urself. u look like a very non-aggressive guy (in terms of dealing with women), how would u describe urself? shy? cocky? awkward? funny?

[gettingahead15]

IF your serious about improving, you should make losing weight your number 1 goal. Your average BTW. The bright side is that you may be hiding some good features under those chubby cheeks. Lose the fat (should be able to lose a lot by the summer). LOSE THE GLASSES ASAP.

[Icicle]

Get new frames and try smiling more

[DrDoom99]

not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet.. but you live in toronto, and youre pakistani

if you're approaching white girls, 99% of the time they will reject you if you're not white.

go for brown girls

srs

Why are all of you men being so obtuse?? Race is the only thing that matters. OKC did a study and just recently Columbia university did a similar study. Same results. White women tend to only stick to their own race. This is the only and exact reason. Are you only pursuing white women? As a black man who has had success online, I'm sorry but this is in my the only reason why. White women are very racist. They will only think about dating outside their race if you're an attractive looking man of color. Most women who are not Of your ethnicity will not date non-whites in the Western Hemisphere. They have been socially ingrained that white is beautiful.

I don't understand why these men are telling you that you're not good looking and all that other stuff. Do you find lil Wayne, Dennis Rodman or Bill O daly more attractive than him. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

If you're not pursuing women who are of your ethnicity then race is the number one reason why you can't get dates.

[sam212]

Brah, yer an average looking Pakistani guy IMO. I'm brown too, just like you, lighter complexion, most white chicks think I am either Middle eastern/Mediterranian/ or Latin American. I haven't had too much trouble getting laid. Forgot to mention, I have been losing hair since I was 18 am now almost bald, and didn't really start womanizing until I was 25. I now only strictly date white women because that's all I find attractive.

Things that have worked for me:
1: Don't be a creep: To each their own this one, but IMO, a vast majority of brown guys are creepy, whether it be their comments to women, or how they carry themselves, or whatever else there is.
2: Have a little confidence and "give no ****s" attitude: Not saying you gotta be some cocky dude, but IMO a majority of brown dudes have Low self esteem. I think our culture in general keeps us grounded and looks down upon fraternizing with women, hence, we tend to have low self esteem of ourselves.
3. Aesthetics: This one goes beyond saying. Have some aesthetics, it will work well. If you're ripped with some muscle on, women are curious in general, regardless of your ethnicity- of course don't be a creep as it's a turn off.
4. Smell good: This is a huge ****ing issue when approaching. Brown women are always cooking all kind of **** in the house and it sticks with you. Sometimes I have had to wash my clothes twice just to get that Biryani smell out after visiting my parents.
5. Have a good career: For me, this was the biggest hurdle I overcame, the amount of confidence and the quality of women that came with my career has been incredible. I am an Orthopedic surgery resident, and trust me bro, women dig that ****.... I don't even **** in the hospital because I don't want to **** where I eat, but if I did, I could be ****ing all kind of women! If you have a lot going for you, women notice, it adds up to 3 points to your profile, because let's be honest: women like someone who can provide. So straighten that **** out.
6. Make friends: Almost 90% of pakistanis only socialize with brown people, therefore, there interactions with white people are rather awkward, and therefore, when you're attempting to game a white chick, you're social skills will be exposed. So regardless of how much your family looks down on it, make sure you have a wide variety of friend circle.

Also lay off that Nihari, as good as it tastes, that **** is just bad for you!

[-Lucifer]

FFS. You are not ugly. You got rejected because you are beta and made her uncomfortable.

[otakutrevan]

lol @ male miscers thinking that no male is ugly and its ALWAYS how they were acting. you guys are delusional

[KenKanifff]

if your aiming for white woman your gonna have a bad time.

[KidKhaleel]

If/once you do lose weight you will be leaner thus look better overall and especially the face but you dont have distinct facial features that will set you apart. Put on some muscle mass and care about the way you dress and you should do well. If you don't have confidence fake it till you make it. Usually white girls go for the lighter skinned brown guys if even brown guys at all so you're probably gonna get alot of resistance from them anyways. Try some girls in your own community or of different enthnicities.

Not trying to hate OP just my honest opinion.

[larsfromfaraway]

I can't really speak on the ethnic thing. I don't have any experience there, but I have had a couple Indian friends who pulled it off no problem.

Of course appearance is your first impression on a girl so you will want to sharpen that up, but it's the style that I think is hurting you. Go more rugged and shed a couple, you'll be straight then.

Attitude is at least as important as appearance. Be confident. Know that you're good enough for her, if you have doubt she will detect it.

After that, just be as natural as possible. Be able to relate to what she says.

I've seen tons of goober ass looking dudes with good looking girls - daily. That's why I believe attitude and personality can have a strong effect for someone who's not the best looking person in the room. The good news is you're not ugly, you just need to adopt more of a rugged style rather than soft and super trustworthy.

[michael_xyz]

Looks obviously help, but there's still kinda ugly dudes or average dudes who are banging hot girls purely because they are funny/confident. So looking good will help with confident, probably, but you still have to work on that yourself. If you think you're ugly you're not going to be able to sell yourself well.

[KFM219]

lol @ male miscers thinking that no male is ugly and its ALWAYS how they were acting. you guys are delusional

On a purely aesthetics level, he's not ugly. Michael Phelps is ugly b/c his facial aesthetics are all off. He's got ears and a nose that's too big, his mouth looks weird, his face is too elongated, etc. The OP doesn't have facial features that are so off balanced, so he's not ugly per se. However, he's not good looking either.

Girls will usually categorize you into either ugly, cute, or hot. And most girls find the majority of guys, from a purely aesthetics point of view, ugly. But it doesn't make much of a difference b/c plenty of hot girls date "ugly" guys b/c they exude sex appeal and swagger. Sex appeal and swagger or lack there of can move you b/w categories depending on the woman.

Now, if you want to be reasonably successful with cold approaching you need to be good looking. There's no two ways about it. When I was younger in my college years I was moderately successful with cold approaching. I wasn't a dynamo but I wasn't a complete shut out either. But I still dealt with tons of flake outs, girls losing interest, etc. That's the nature of cold approaching, no guy now matter how good looking he is, will be 100% successful with cold approaching unless he's a movie star. So IMHO the OP isn't good looking enough to be even remotely successful with hot chicks through cold approaching. He may achieve a little success if he cold approaches below average, chubby girls and even then I'm willing to be he will get rejected a lot.

What the OP really needs to work on is sex appeal and swagger. If he loses the weight and tightens up the face a bit, ditches the beard, and gets a sense of style he'll be much more improved looking. But more importantly he really needs to build up his sex appeal and swagger. Just from the pics I get the sense he's a really nice guy who smiles nervously a lot, doesn't have much conviction behind what he's saying, eager to please people by capitulating to their point of view, doesn't challenge or socially dominate them, and probably can't hold eye contact well for too long. He gives off a very weak/soft vibe and that's unsexy to women.

If he works on those things and opens normal conversations with women he encounters I have faith that he'll get some more interest from them. Then if he can build sexual tension, escalate, etc. he'll be able to get laid without too much trouble. Also, in his age group women are more concerned with steady jobs and an income moreso than any other quality so the lack of good looks won't hurt him too much if he's aiming for women in his age group.

[DerpHunter]

For all you know, it had nothing to do with your looks, but maybe you come off as insecure. But anyway...

You're not ugly, but as others have said and as you probably know, you could lose some weight. It'll help give your face more defined features. I think you actually have a nice face. It's symmetrical and oval (which is the most attractive), but looks more round with the extra weight. You should shave your head and keep the beard (keep it nice and trimmed like you have). Your hair sorta looks like it's thinning and the hairstyle isn't helping. I think you'd look good with a shaved head (don't need to go bald - just about the same length as your beard. I'm not sure what women think, but personally, I don't care for wire-framed glasses. Either go with contacts or get some thicker, black, plastic-framed glasses with a similar lens shape.

Just don't let your attitude screw you over, or it won't matter how good you look physically if you're still coming off as someone who hates himself and thinks he's a loser. You have to work on your body AND mind.