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    What are your unpopular opinions regarding fitness and nutrition?

    Is there anything you believe that goes against what everyone else says? Especially based on experiences. What are those beliefs?

    Mine are - you have to train abs. So many people say the big 3 lifts are enough but i disagree. I think you need to train them like any other muscle. Also i think caffeine causes belly fat. Dont know the science behind it, something about cortisol but i believe it.

    Curious if anyone else has other experiences that go against the grain or what is preached here.
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    Fat is great for you as well as a lot of salt.

    Basically anything you hear on tv is bad for you. There is a concerted effort to remove the manliness from the American male, It started in the 60-70's from the KGB. srs. So every nutrition tip you have heard since then is basically planted in our culture with that in mind. Sound crazy?

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    Caffeine causes belly fat? I doubt it.
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    Originally Posted by iloveus View Post
    Caffeine causes belly fat? I doubt it.
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    Me too but i quit caffeine and legit feel slimmer in the midsection. Idk if its real or placebo or what but i really do.
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    -feeling the "burn" or whatever the fuk is stupid
    -there is so such thing as "healthy" or "unhealthy" food
    not a fitness opinion but
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    Originally Posted by crupiea View Post
    Fat is great for you as well as a lot of salt.

    Basically anything you hear on tv is bad for you. There is a concerted effort to remove the manliness from the American male, It started in the 60-70's from the KGB. srs. So every nutrition tip you have heard since then is basically planted in our culture with that in mind. Sound crazy?

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    Totally agree. Never knew how good fat was for hormone balance as well. Avacado everyday. Also keeps me full if i have one for breakfast.
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    what you eat does matter. calories aren't just calories. if i eat steak and eggs a lot i look better and am stronger than if i eat the same nutrition from other junk foods.
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    In a lot of cases weightlifting shoes aren't necessary and improving your flexibility is a more sustainable option
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    Most of lifting is genetics, some people are naturally going to look better, some people are going to be bigger and stronger. If you're using celltech and you haven't benched 365 you're pathetic,I'm a short little dude and I've done it without that sort of help.
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    i think keto and IF is garbage.

    i'm a huge believer of a plant based diet. Not vegan, and not completely cutting out meat, just high in raw veggies
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    Originally Posted by fitfanatic123 View Post
    Also i think caffeine causes belly fat. Dont know the science behind it, something about cortisol but i believe it.
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    That you don't have to eat clean to gain muscle. I think it is absolutely necessary to eat at least 1-2lb of lean meat and vegetables most days. I've never noticed an ounce of muscle gains eating like chit
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    there is no such thing as too much sodium, only not enough water
    eat whenever the fuk you want to
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    Originally Posted by eod8989 View Post
    I've never noticed an ounce of muscle gains eating like chit
    judging by those pics you uploaded a few days ago I can tell
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    Eat and exercise. Doesn't mean binge at the local McDonalds but if you can work it off with a moderately healthy life system that includes activities you can do well.
    Protein shakes, etc, are great but are supplements people use them as excuses.
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    judging by those pics you uploaded a few days ago I can tell
    Yeah i lost all my muscle several years ago and haven't been eating meat and veggies every day. Spinnin wheels man
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    There is little point to do anything other than two exercise per body part.

    You can build muscle taking in less than a gram of protein per body weight. I was at one time 18-19 years old, 5’7.5, 216lbs at 25% bodyfat and would take in maybe 150 grams of protein a day at most, sometimes less. I’ve leaned out a lot since these days. I have also gone a entire month without protein powder and wasn’t eating a lot of protein in food and still maintained my muscle just fine.

    Deadlifts are overrrated

    Preacher Curls, Scott Curls, and Reverse Preacher Curls are better than BB curls, DB curls, and Hammer Curls.

    Long bicep attachments look way better than short bicep attachments (i think most agree with this though)

    High lat attachments look better than low. I like how they look from the double bicep pose.

    Genetics is half the game

    Bodybuilders looked the best in the 50s during the Reg Park and Steve Reeves days. Even Golden Era bodybuilders looked freakish with exeption to Corney, Waller, and Zane.

    Most lifters are lifting because of some insecurity. Whether it’s because they are out of shape, short, skinny, ugly, or whatever. They are compensating, thinking working out can make up for a lack of something.

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    i get 75-80% energy from fat and only eat like 5 or 10% carbs.

    still can run and push hard in the gym.

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    Originally Posted by mchabs View Post
    i think keto and IF is garbage.

    i'm a huge believer of a plant based diet. Not vegan, and not completely cutting out meat, just high in raw veggies
    same tbh. You can't get enough veg in your diet... keto works for me for like 5 weeks then it's trash
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    +1 on keto is bullchit and the most artificial diet you could ever create and totally pointless for 99.9% of the population.

    I also sometimes suspect low carb diets are a conspiracy meant specifically to sabotage people. They make it hard to train with intensity, so you don't gain muscle or hold onto muscle if you're cutting. They fuk with your mood and energy levels and thyroid hormone. They teach you that the natural human instinct to like sweet foods is BADWRONG and that we should all be swilling butter coffee and coconut oil. Then, when you inevitably give in to the INTENSE craving for carbs (which is natural) you blow up and get fat because you've systematically destroyed your insulin sensitivity by eating low-carb and your system can no longer handle the carbs you do eat.



    Also, abs are NOT made in the kitchen. You can be skinny af and not have prominent abs if they aren't trained.

    Don't even get me started on the cardio-bashers. I'm sorry, but most people look better, move better, and maintain their leanness more naturally if they do cardio. No particular kind, but something. The lifters who don't, IMHO, look unnaturally bulky, hold fat in weird places, and don't move well.
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    Originally Posted by al****orilla View Post
    i get 75-80% energy from fat and only eat like 5 or 10% carbs.

    still can run and push hard in the gym.

    doing it for over 5 years.

    people lose their mind when they see me eating coconut oil with my almondbutter and 90% Chocolat lindt.
    Eating so much saturated fat will surely reduce your life expectancy.
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    Deadlifts are a highly overrated lift

    Calories in vs calories out is not a universal truth

    Race/ethnic background plays a part in how your body responds to food

    My body NEEDS cardio to function at its best (that’s just for the don’t need cardio brahs)

    Originally Posted by mchabs View Post
    i think keto and IF is garbage.
    They both have a place for people who are insulin resistant.
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    Originally Posted by crupiea View Post
    Fat is great for you as well as a lot of salt.
    I’m old enough now that I can “feel” the difference when I’m getting enough fat vs when I’m not.
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    That low fat diets are the most idiotic thing ever.... tried it for a couple of months royally fkd me up. Couldn't get a hard on to save my life and felt like ass. Dumbest thing I've ever done.
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    Originally Posted by WorldClassDBag View Post
    -feeling the "burn" or whatever the fuk is stupid
    -there is so such thing as "healthy" or "unhealthy" food
    not a fitness opinion but
    - brown rice is fukin groce and white rice is 100x better
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    Fad diets like keto/IF/low carb are bs. People who swear by them for losing weight have simply inadvertently created and maintained calorie deficits with them long enough for them to "work".

    Benching anything under under a clean 400 lbs with the help of celltech is pathetic. I've hit 370 before without anything but wrist wraps. Surely someone with extra help should be able to do better than that.

    Running is a terrible form of cardio for general long-term health. I haven't met a single long-distance runner enthusiast whose knees weren't totally chit by their late 40's or so. Walking and sprinting are much better alternatives in terms of overall health aside from things like swimming/biking.
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    Idk any. I just know when I stopped eating so clean, I started looking better and started putting on more muscle.
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    Originally Posted by AdvancedDreamer View Post
    uwotm8
    I guess i should elaborate. I believe that food is just food and revolving your life around eating "clean" or "healthy" is stupid
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