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    Ramy vs. Phil, BDB chop

    Originally Posted by transformerchad View Post
    We need photo shop wizards to get ramys BDB vs phils BDB would be epic!
    I hate doing these because the SMALLEST difference in perspective, even the lense, changes everything. Not to mention the lighting.

    But I tried to find the most similar angles that I could anyway just for fun... Never take ANY of these chops even remotely seriously btw. There's simply no way you can make them realistic. I've done this based on Ramy being 5'11, and Phil 5'9 - scaling him to 97% of Ramy's height

    Like I said, done quick as fuk because I can't be bothered spending too much time on something that's going to be inaccurate regardless lol. Somebody else might want to tho

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    Ramy is wider, legs are bigger from the back, Going to look much bigger from the back than that.
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    Total ownage by Phil!
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    Originally Posted by jld010 View Post
    Ramy is wider, legs are bigger from the back, Going to look much bigger from the back than that.
    Like I said, doing these chops is pretty pointless and you can take 'em with a grain of salt. These were the two most similar perspectives and angles I could find though.
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    Interesting work OP, like you said, angles etc change the whole perspective so can't take this too seriously-but in this pic Ramy looks like he's doing well against Phil. However, Phil is crisper in the lower body. Olympia should be interesting if Ramy can show up in NY shape. Not saying he'll win it, but he'll certainly mix things up a bit.
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    My judgement:

    Shoulders and Arms: Ramy

    Back: Tie

    Quads: Tie from back but Ramy probably wins in the front or side pose..

    Calves: Phil

    I hope ramy looks even better in the Olympia.. can't wait!!
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    They have a similar shape. Ramy is obviously bigger but Phil has better development in the bdb. Phil will look a lot bigger than he does in that comparison. Its interesting though i thought Ramy's back would be a big weak point but on stage it looked pretty good. Needs more thickness to compete with Kai and Phil imo.

    The more i look at his physique though the more i see top 3, hes massive and put together very well.
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    The reason I don't think Ramy has a shot at beating Phil, is because the number 1 contender does what Ramy does (mass) and is much better in all other aspects. Without Kai there, the mass might be enough to overshadow Phil... But with Kai on stage, I think Ramy gets overlooked because Kai's already doing it, and doing it better.

    It's been a game of mass vs. aesthetics in the past (and still somewhat is), and they're not taking Ramy over Kai as the mass contender.
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    One of the better comparison line up's I've seen OP, nice work

    IMO Ramy from the front is a different story to the rear.

    From the back, he tends to fall into comparisons with other top tier pros. From the front he becomes more 'monstrous'. I think it's the dominating Delts and Chronic Quad Sweep.

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    Wow good job man, I'm impressed.
    Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
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    mark my words, ramy will win the Olympia is he shows up with the same package here
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    Originally Posted by detrimental View Post
    I hate doing these because the SMALLEST difference in perspective, even the lense, changes everything. Not to mention the lighting.

    But I tried to find the most similar angles that I could anyway just for fun... Never take ANY of these chops even remotely seriously btw. There's simply no way you can make them realistic. I've done this based on Ramy being 5'11, and Phil 5'9 - scaling him to 97% of Ramy's height

    Like I said, done quick as fuk because I can't be bothered spending too much time on something that's going to be inaccurate regardless lol. Somebody else might want to tho

    This pic is not to scale enough, Ramy's legs would be dwarfing Heath's also Ramy has Ronnie'ss glutes. The colour pictures give a better comparison, from the pictures posted so far in this thread Ramy is owning Phil all poses. From the front Ramy's width really shows Phils flaws.

    Assuming politics is still in operation at the 2013 Mr O Ramy will place in the 2, and from the evidence so far he will beat Phil Heath.
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    Op Amazing work thanks bud!

    Ramy needs a bit more separation and detail and its Game over for phil . Will he bring a better package than phil at the O , Who knows (probably not this year) definitely Olympia top 10 , but all I can say is that Ramy is going to have a bright future in this sport and with a physique like that at his age he will be unstoppable in 10years he will only be 36 yrs old , wont be surprised if he wins a couple by then
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    Guys , i dont know abt you, but besides quad sweep from the front which goes to Phil, it becomes a really interesting comparison with Ramy up against Phil from the front in every front pose. Front Relaxed, hand clasps and any other pose ( that are not mandatories) hit by Ramy when standing next to Phil from the front will go to Ramy. lol, im srs, its going to look bad for Phil. Finally the narrowness that we always wanted to be exposed will be happening this year, Wahahahahahaha, so hillarious, howquick it has all changed. I remember a thread a year or two ago, and we were talking abt a new quality freak that would expose Phil. Well, we finally at that point.

    Mandatories from the front, will go to Ramy ( provided Ramy comes in slightly better conditioning than NY), FLS, LOL!!! Game over for Phil with a huge uppercut!. From the side, Ramy takes it, and guess hwat ppl, he will take it easily against PHil. lol, that leg from the side is awesome. Kai mgiht take it from Ramy, side pose.

    From the back, Kai owns Phil with arm size and overall back width. This is not new. Ramy would equal Kai from the back in terms of size and width, maybe even wider. Kai beats Ramy with detail, Ramy gets beat by Phil with detail, but owns everything else in this pose.

    What im saying is......Ramy has the potential to make Phil look very average. Ramy vs Kai, now thats going to be interesting. Ramy will own kai in size, its a given, but size and detail, combination, Kai takes it.

    What im saing is,,, Kai fronts up to Ramy better than Phil vs Ramy.

    Some of you are going to be shocked. I cant wait,

    The time for a small Mr Olympia is almost up, just the way things should be.

    There is nowhere to hide. he better step 1meter over the line to aid his posing. srs
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    What i want to see like JDL said is Ramy owning Phil well not owning but making him look small and narrow and Kai and Ramy battling it out, yet Phil still would get the trophy which after a couple therapy sessions I'm ok with...
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    Originally Posted by jld010 View Post
    Guys , i dont know abt you, but besides quad sweep from the front which goes to Phil, it becomes a really interesting comparison with Ramy up against Phil from the front in every front pose. Front Relaxed, hand clasps and any other pose ( that are not mandatories) hit by Ramy when standing next to Phil from the front will go to Ramy. lol, im srs, its going to look bad for Phil. Finally the narrowness that we always wanted to be exposed will be happening this year, Wahahahahahaha, so hillarious, howquick it has all changed. I remember a thread a year or two ago, and we were talking abt a new quality freak that would expose Phil. Well, we finally at that point.

    Mandatories from the front, will go to Ramy ( provided Ramy comes in slightly better conditioning than NY), FLS, LOL!!! Game over for Phil with a huge uppercut!. From the side, Ramy takes it, and guess hwat ppl, he will take it easily against PHil. lol, that leg from the side is awesome. Kai mgiht take it from Ramy, side pose.

    From the back, Kai owns Phil with arm size and overall back width. This is not new. Ramy would equal Kai from the back in terms of size and width, maybe even wider. Kai beats Ramy with detail, Ramy gets beat by Phil with detail, but owns everything else in this pose.

    What im saying is......Ramy has the potential to make Phil look very average. Ramy vs Kai, now thats going to be interesting. Ramy will own kai in size, its a given, but size and detail, combination, Kai takes it.

    What im saing is,,, Kai fronts up to Ramy better than Phil vs Ramy.

    Some of you are going to be shocked. I cant wait,

    The time for a small Mr Olympia is almost up, just the way things should be.

    There is nowhere to hide. he better step 1meter over the line to aid his posing. srs
    This! Even I see Kai as a better competitor to Ramy than Phil!

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    I made Heath a little smaller.
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    in OP's comparison i have heath winning it

    BUT; i do believe that the scaling is off, almost impossible to get this correct though. Ramy would be way wider than phil and i find it hard to believe their quad size is that similar from the rear
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    Let's be realistic here, he's cemented in third after our known two blokes, not the contender just yet.
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    Phil has calves and hammies, in shape and detail. Noted as Ramies weak points.

    Ramy would fare much better from the front.

    If ramy can improve his conditioning further and bring detail to his hammes and calves. Watch out.
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    Originally Posted by Groggery View Post
    Let's be realistic here, he's cemented in third after our known two blokes, not the contender just yet.
    Forget the judges!!!!!!!! Make your own mind up. and post your thoughts. I dont ever give a phuck abt judges.
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    Originally Posted by massakra View Post
    I made Heath a little smaller.
    couldn't make him narrower i see lol i kiidd
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    Originally Posted by jld010 View Post
    Forget the judges!!!!!!!! Make your own mind up. and post your thoughts. I dont ever give a phuck abt judges.
    You're telling this to the guy that regularly says screw the judges...

    Ramy is NOT quite there yet, he's not getting **** on so that's pretty big. But you're definitely on some drugs if you think he's got what it takes to be Mr. O after just 3 years.
    People these days have more reps than brain cells
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    Originally Posted by Groggery View Post
    You're telling this to the guy that regularly says screw the judges...

    Ramy is NOT quite there yet, he's not getting **** on so that's pretty big. But you're definitely on some drugs if you think he's got what it takes to be Mr. O after just 3 years.
    ok, well, then im hopped up on some drugs if you put it that way. if you think Kai will be Mr Olympia for another 3 years, then you too must be on pshycotropic drugs.
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    Originally Posted by sexnews View Post
    Total ownage by Phil!
    No doubt.

    Dont realy like Ramy, to much Mass. Not to take anything away from him, hes a great bodybuilder.
    Former 300+lb crew,
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    Originally Posted by Virrhoe View Post
    No doubt, I do not get the hype about Ramy, hes only big.. nothing more to me atleast.
    Did you miss that show in the weekend?
    A pattern in the chaos.
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    Phil's power goes beyond mere size or he wouldn't have beaten Jay or Kai. His "pop", his separation, his conditioning.
    We're dodging more ninjitsu attacks than Flex Wheeler. We're ducking more bullets than George Farah. We're facing more death than a kid leg pressing at Branch Warren's gym.

    You can't stop us. You can't hold us back.

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