Hey guys, I've had experience with Animal Stak 2, Blue Up (stim free,) and Tribuloid. However, recently I've tried Tribestan, and am now on Tribosten because it sounded better than Tribestan. However, Tribosten is starting to sound kind of expensive as well as Tribesten on 6 pills a day for their current price. So I was wondering if you guys knew what would be a better natural testosterone booster with the same quality and absorption as Tribestan and Tribosten, but also with a good price, and amount/servings.
I was thinking Trib Test by Diesel, but is this tribulus as good as Tribosten and Tribestan when it comes to actually delivering the goods? Another one that I was thinking about was Endotest test, but I'm not looking forward to the appetite stimulant that comes with it since I gain weight easily and have no problem in that category. Now there's also Novedex XT, but I know that this is more of an estrogen inhibitor so I'm not quite familiar with this category yet. Is this safe, and can it be used as a stand alone for testosterone raising?
If you guys have any other ideas let me know; I really have my eyes on Diesel Test 2010, but it's really expensive for me at the moment.
I want to use this for workouts, but also to increase my sperm count. Before ANY natural testosterone boosters my sperm was 6.9 million. However, after being on Tribuloid and Ejaculoid my second test went up to 18 million (so it DID do SOMETHING good,) but then on my third test it went back down to 13 million. Blah! So yeah, just wanted to also try another brand besides Tribuloid.
Thanks in advance!
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What's the BEST NATURAL testosterone booster?
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ActivaTe is not a test booster, it converts testosterone into free testosterone, which is able to be utilized by the body. Rebound Reloaded would be a testosterone booster, because it prevents the aromatization of testosterone into estrogen, thereby increasing the amount of testosterone your body will produce to make up for the "deficit"
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Well for example, I am currently running an ActivaTe/6-OXO cycle. 6-OXO is an AI that I personally chose because of the tests that Ergopharm did on it which indicated no negative rebound effect once cycled off of it, as well as increased testosterone. I've been on it for 8 days, and so far I feel great. The ActivaTe has elevated my mood drastically, which is a big bonus for me. From what I have seen, Novedex is also a good choice. With most AI there are similar possible side effects, such as decreased libido, joint soreness, skin/eye dryness, and it also makes you more suseptible to colds/flu's because estrogen plays a part in immune function. Here is a link to the 6-OXO study if you are interested: http://www.ergopharm.net/products_6oxo_longterm.php
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We got three guys doing logs on TestoFreak
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1375831
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And a fourth doing one on his own: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1351331
So far, all 4 are getting good results.
I'm running my own log on Fusion's Zeus stacked with NO Monster (I can't do TestoFreak until this one's done). But, I'm getting good results from Zeus. I'll do a log on TestoFreak and compare the two (as it applies to me--everyone responds differently to each one).
I did a log on Goliath Lab's Groloid stacked with Tribuloid. That one worked well for me last year.
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Trib test is an "entry level" herbal test booster. It probably will increase your test better than anything else under $30 bucks, but nothing to the degree of DIESEL TEST. It will make you horny tho'
Also your looking for something low in price, but unfortunately do to the price of raw materials and formulations it takes to make a good herbal test booster your not going to find that product ur looking for for under $35. Even most of the ones around $50 may suck also but def not going to find what ur looking for for $30 or less. Another thing is most test boosters are "libido" pills. So if you want bigger loads you can take maca and horny goat weed, but as your test showed maca and even long jack is best for increasing sperm count/volume for only about 1 or 2 weeks. There is a lot of test on maca that shows it increases sperm count for 1-2 weeks, not 1-3 months.
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