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10-21-2019, 12:06 PM #5461
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10-21-2019, 12:14 PM #5462
The issue is, he tried right away. Inside zone to Cohen first play of the game. It got stuffed, then he just went away from it. He was asked in his presser if that felt like a "gut punch". He said yes, it did. So in other words, one damn play in the game doesn't work and it completely throws him off his game. You get "gut punched" in the first play of the game? That one play changed the tide of the game for you, Nagy?
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10-21-2019, 12:18 PM #5463
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10-21-2019, 03:47 PM #5464
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10-21-2019, 04:28 PM #5465
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He definitely gives up on the run too quickly. But I think the logic of trying to open up the run game with passing when they’re stacking the box would make a degree of sense if Trubisky wasn’t so terrible. If Bridgewater was the Bears QB he would have made them pay on at least some of those down the field throws.
Hopefully, after yesterday everyone except Mbison knows that Trubisky is trash and can’t be relied on, so they’ll force the issue.Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. -C.S. Lewis
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10-21-2019, 04:30 PM #5466
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10-22-2019, 05:56 AM #5467
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10-22-2019, 05:58 AM #5468
Run the ball. That's all I want to see on Sunday. Run the ball, keep your defense off the field. Keep running the ball. If it doesn't work the first series don't just abandon it all together. Keep running all game long. Mitch is going to hit those open receivers eventually. There is nothing else they can count on at this point. You have to have some sort of a threat of a run game to open up the field a bit. Letting him throw 40-50 times a game is absolutely not the answer.
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10-22-2019, 07:48 AM #5469
I don't know why but I pictured Nagy being like this after that first rush attempt.
"I'm not an idiot. I know we have to run more." Like lmfao. How the hell did he go from coach of the year to this?!
Y'all most likely would've had more success had y'all run the ball against us, but it wouldn't have been much more, IMHO. You're 100% accurate on the 40-50 attempts, though. One of the dumber things to happen in recent memory.AcetylCoA gets reps
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10-22-2019, 08:01 AM #5470
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10-22-2019, 08:39 AM #5471
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This is brutal: https://mobile.twitter.com/SethGalin...18669280215040
Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. -C.S. Lewis
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10-22-2019, 08:47 AM #5472
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10-22-2019, 10:10 AM #5473
Just came across something that makes Nagy look like such an idiot (even though he says he isn't).
Week 1 in a one possession game in the second half, Chicago passed the ball 22 straight times.
Week 7 in a one possession game in in the second quarter, Chicago passed the ball 12 straight times.
Both games end in a loss with a tired defense, because they have a QB that can't consistently make plays in the passing game to be able to sustain throwing the ball over and over and over. Especially in a one possession game critically dependent on field position.
Also, heard a caller on the score this morning mention he went back and looked at some Nagy coaching decisions. Basically when he chose to run the ball with Hunt etc. Not sure how he came across these stats, because there was some debate as to how much Nagy actually called the plays while in KC. Either way, it was something along the lines of only 9 runs called total through a 3 game sample size, when they were down by only 3 points or one possession. If they were up by any number of points through 3 games in was 22 runs called. It's like regardless of how far behind they get, he wants to completely ignore running the ball. Just throws it out the window as even an option.Bears/Bulls/Blackhawks
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10-22-2019, 10:21 AM #5474
Some across here like to complain about this o-line too. I have been one of them. Mainly for run blocking, but others (Mbison) points out constantly that Mitch doesn't have time to throw the ball.
According to some ESPN analytics released this morning up to this point in the season -
Bear's overall pass block win rate is 57%, which is good for 17th in the league. So right in the middle. Top 5 starts with Oakland at 63%. So there isn't even a huge disparity between teams percentage wise.
Teams that have a worse win rate, but have had better QB play thus far (IMO) - Chiefs, Vikings, Lions, Patriots, Seahawks, Falcons, and Panthers.
I know other people see this, but Mitch gets spooked easily. The pocket is clean and he still starts bouncing around and ends up scrambling. This happens constantly.Bears/Bulls/Blackhawks
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10-22-2019, 10:36 AM #5475
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10-22-2019, 11:04 AM #5476
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10-22-2019, 11:21 AM #5477
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10-22-2019, 11:55 AM #5478
According to Prince on this players only meeting "That's when guys can really be transparent and genuine. It's a safe place. Guys can say what they really feel...I think guys are really going to listen and take it to heart."
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....... lolBears/Bulls/Blackhawks
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10-22-2019, 02:10 PM #5479
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10-22-2019, 02:18 PM #5480
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10-22-2019, 03:15 PM #5481
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10-22-2019, 03:37 PM #5482
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10-22-2019, 06:26 PM #5483
Lmfao. There actually could be some good that comes from that, though. I obviously don't know how **** goes in NFL locker rooms, but I imagine they're going to lambaste Mitch. Hell, they may even come together and start demanding that the Bears trade for a different QB.
It's not over, no. Y'all have so much talent that it's not over.
Yup, it's definitely absurd. Maybe Nagy is thinking that having a mobile QB is dangerous for the future, but they won't have one if they don't utilize that.
5 times? Jesus... Nagy is really ****ing up.AcetylCoA gets reps
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10-22-2019, 07:35 PM #5484
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10-23-2019, 08:28 AM #5485
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Pretty sure the angst and resentment already exists. The defense carried the team all of last year and has this year as well, against the Saints it kind of looked they finally decided to throw in the towel.
Some ESPN show was on in the gym this morning and it appears they were suggesting the Bears trade for Ryan Fitzpatrick because Miami is tanking and the Bears can’t win with Trubiksy. Things went off the rails really quickly.
I’m honestly baffled at how Trubiksy managed to get worse. I could see if he was the same or only nominally but better but how did he get worse? What the hell did he even do in the offseason.Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. -C.S. Lewis
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10-23-2019, 09:48 AM #5486
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I had the game on in the background when I was cleaning but I remember a play that I think Gabrielle was on an out route or something and Trubisky just straight missed him on the sideline. Could tell Gabrielle was pissed af. Even the coach by him gave him the look like "yeah he's trash bud".
I don't necessarily think Trubisky even got worse. He just looks like he always has. I think Nagy is just failing miserably to build a gameplan around him. Your last four games rushing yards are 90, 72, 42, and 17. When you've realistically needed to put more on the run game, he pulls it back.
That being said getting Fitzpatrick isn't going to solve anythingy. Bringing in a QB to start mid-season usually doesn't benefit anything. If they want to move away from Trubisky Chase Daniels is your best bet.
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10-23-2019, 12:41 PM #5487
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No, he’s definitely worse. Last year he made progress as the season went on, that didn’t carry over. His footwork has been a mess, he stares down Allen Robinson on every play instead of going through his progressions, and consistently makes the wrong decision on RPO’s.
I legitimately wonder what he was doing in the offseason because I don’t think he was working on football.
I’m not advocating for trading for Fitzpatrick just noting how sad it that Trubiksy has sucked so much he’s viewed as worse than a journeyman traded for in the middle of season by the national media.Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. -C.S. Lewis
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10-23-2019, 01:39 PM #5488
Yes he consistently makes bad decisions when he gets 2 seconds or less to throw, and makes good decisions when he gets more than 2 seconds
It's called being a QB in the NFL.The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.
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10-23-2019, 01:46 PM #5489
Yeah except NONE of that is true you pleb. His entire line is rated right in the middle of the NFL in terms of pass block win rate. He has time to throw. He gives the illusion that he doesn't because he constantly runs out of a clean pocket.
He also doesn't always make great decisions when he has tons of time to throw, nor does he make good throws.Bears/Bulls/Blackhawks
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10-23-2019, 01:51 PM #5490
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