Is there anyone who could beat a 2009 jay cutler besides ronnie?
is a 2000 flex wheeler better? 2002 kevin levrone? 2010 AS Pro kai greene?
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04-28-2011, 03:23 PM #1Registered User
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Jay cutler second best bber ever?
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04-28-2011, 03:26 PM #2Registered Abuser
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93 Dorian, 93 Wheeler, 1995 Levrone among others in my opinion.
EPO all in my veins; Lately things just don’t seem the same; Actin’ funny, but I don’t know why; ’Scuse me while I pass this guy.
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04-28-2011, 03:27 PM #3Registered User
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sick physiqueOriginally Posted by the-craig
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04-28-2011, 03:37 PM #4Registered User
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04-28-2011, 03:47 PM #5Abiad's Army
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In terms of greatness... no, he is not second best. In terms of best physique ever brought to a pro stage... yes, he is second behind the GOAT.
IMO, no one other than Ronnie Coleman has surpassed Jay Cutler's physique in 09.
2009 or 2010 Australia Pro Kai would be the only other contender for me, but since we haven't seen that version of Kai compared to the rest of the greats at the moment (Phil, Jay) it's hard to tell how he would stack up.Bench: 215x12 (17/12/2011) PR since torn RC
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04-28-2011, 03:49 PM #6Abiad's Army
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No 09 thread is complete without:
Bench: 215x12 (17/12/2011) PR since torn RC
"Being the best in your circle is not enough; you have to think bigger to become a champion. Don’t think like a small fish in a big pond or else when you get to the ocean you’ll be eaten alive." - Fouad Abiad
"Proper preparation prevents poor performance," - Kai Greene
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04-28-2011, 03:50 PM #7yo yo yo
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it's borderline offensive to ask that question.
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04-28-2011, 03:54 PM #8Registered User
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No way 95 Levrone would of beat 09 Jay if you actually compare the pictures Jay is thicker and dryer.
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04-28-2011, 03:56 PM #9Registered Abuser
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Jay's physique just does nothing for me, I'm not saying he isn't a great bodybuilder, I just think all he has is size and a left quad.
Edit: Add Nasser 95 and 97 and Chris Cormier to that list tooLast edited by the-craig; 04-28-2011 at 04:08 PM.
EPO all in my veins; Lately things just don’t seem the same; Actin’ funny, but I don’t know why; ’Scuse me while I pass this guy.
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04-28-2011, 04:01 PM #10Registered User
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2004 gunter
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04-28-2011, 04:10 PM #11Registered User
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Not sure if srsOriginally Posted by ResovoirDog
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04-28-2011, 04:14 PM #12Registered User
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M0re like w0rst mr 0lympia 0f all time. If he was c0mpeting in the 1990's and there was n0 d0rian, he'd get his ass handed t0 him by kevin,nasser,c0rmier,and wheeler.
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04-28-2011, 04:16 PM #13Registered User
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Beat ronnie.Originally Posted by RC2008
98 - 05 ronnie > jay 09
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04-28-2011, 04:18 PM #14Registered User
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Funny thats all you got to!Originally Posted by the-craig
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04-28-2011, 04:20 PM #15preacher of simplicity
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Johnnie Jackson has a chance I think..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkHy_zCMOFQ
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04-28-2011, 04:22 PM #16Back From Construction...
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not sure if EFFin SERIOUS..so your saying that all the guys mentioned are better than phil heath?Originally Posted by asbrus
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04-28-2011, 04:26 PM #17Abiad's Army
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Jay, Kai and Phil would beat any bodybuilder in the 90s, excluding Ronnie.Originally Posted by Hardbody316
Asbrus is a troll man, don't take him seriously.Bench: 215x12 (17/12/2011) PR since torn RC
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04-28-2011, 04:27 PM #18Registered User
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That was 2002 Gunter. Which in my opinion was odd to say the least.Originally Posted by ResovoirDog
Davis is right. 09 Jay in terms of judging criteria is second to Ronnie. Ok maybe Dorian as well. Jay would out class everyone else with his mass and spectacular conditioning.
If you don't like the way his physique looks. That isn't the reason why he succeeds in this sport. Which bothers me as well because guys who have looked amazing(phil, kevin, shawn, etc) have always been pushed aside in favor of the conditioned mass monster.
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04-28-2011, 04:30 PM #19Registered User
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Sh*t my bad, 02 gunter
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04-28-2011, 04:32 PM #20Registered Abuser
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Actually that's my right quad, I'm taking the picture in a mirror. Jokes on you.Originally Posted by triplerep
EPO all in my veins; Lately things just don’t seem the same; Actin’ funny, but I don’t know why; ’Scuse me while I pass this guy.
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04-28-2011, 04:35 PM #21Registered User
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Actually lol"dOriginally Posted by the-craig
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04-28-2011, 05:01 PM #22Up in this motherf_cker.
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I wish I had a huge poster of this picture! Easily one my favorite BB pictures.Originally Posted by DavisForman
No 09 thread is complete without:
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04-28-2011, 05:41 PM #23Teen misc founder
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tbh you can't just say that '10 Jay is the 2nd best ever just because only prime ronnie beats him.
I'm not very into baseball but just because someone hit more homeruns than Babe Ruth that doesn't really make them better than him, it all has to do with the time they are in. A top NPC competitor today would beat mother****ing Arnold in a bb competition, that does not make them a better BB than prime Arnold.
My point is: Is Cutler one of the best of all time? Absolutely. Is he the 2nd best of all Time? No, and I don't even think he himself would say he is."that guy is like a damn unicorn" -Evan Centopani on Mamdouh Elsbiay
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04-28-2011, 05:44 PM #24I Raffed Out Rowd
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04-28-2011, 05:47 PM #25
Cutler > Dorian
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04-28-2011, 05:50 PM #26do i have brotential
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Yeah, same. Jay Cutler is big, but for some reason I'm just not a fan at all.Originally Posted by the-craig
We're dodging more ninjitsu attacks than Flex Wheeler. We're ducking more bullets than George Farah. We're facing more death than a kid leg pressing at Branch Warren's gym.
You can't stop us. You can't hold us back.
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04-28-2011, 05:51 PM #27Banned
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I think Jay is possibly the second best of all time. Maybe you guys need a refresh of all the people he beat at the 2001 olympia, s hit Levrone wasn't even close to jay in 01:
1 Ronnie Coleman USA 9 9 5 5 28
2 Jay Cutler USA 6 6 10 10 32
3 Kevin Levrone USA 19 22 15 20 76
4 Shawn Ray USA 21 15 21 23 80
5 Chris Cormier USA 19 22 24 18 83
6 Orville Burke USA 30 35 35 30 130
7 Dennis James USA 36 37 41 114
8 Dexter Jackson USA 43 39 41 123
9 Nasser El Sonbaty Yugoslavia 41 42 53 136
10 Shari 'King' Kamali USA 52 48 45 145
11 Melvin Anthony USA 55 56 59 170
12 Craig Titus USA 61 58 62 181
13 Vince Taylor USA 77 65 45 187
14 Markus Ruhl Germany 62 71 71 204
15 Gunter Schlierkamp Germany 75 77 76 228
16 Tom Prince USA 78 83 86 247
17 J.D. Dawodu England 89 83 94 266
18 Darrem Charles Trinadad 92 94 84 270
19 Pavol Jablonicky Czech 96 97 94 287
20 Claude Groulx Canada 94 96 98 288
21 Mike Matarazzo USA 101 96 95 292
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04-28-2011, 05:53 PM #28Registered User
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yes they w0uld in their prime. Phil's best t0 date is runner up. 0F C0URSE THEY ARE BETTER THAN HIM. BRB WINNING 1 TITLE AND A RUNNER UP AND BEING BETTER THAN GUYS WITH TEN TIMES THE AM0UNT 0F TITLES IN THE M0ST C0MPETITIVE ERA 0F ALL TIME.WHY W0ULD HE BETTER THAN GUYS THAT W0N MULTIPLE TITLES AND RUNNER UPS AT THE 0. HE'S N0T EVEN IN THE SAME LEAGUE AS TH0SE GUYS YET.Originally Posted by hardbody316
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04-28-2011, 06:01 PM #29I Raffed Out Rowd
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Jay would lose to a prime Dorian. I know Jay fans like to post his famous quad stomp pic but contests are judged by mandatory poses
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Hardbody, hover your cursor over Asbrus's reputation, that will tell you everything you need to know about him.Originally Posted by Hardbody316
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