I have to give the edge to the ZMA-5 too. I have noticed the vivid dreams the last 3-4 nights in a row now too!
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11-28-2008, 03:27 PM #31
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11-28-2008, 03:28 PM #32
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11-28-2008, 03:29 PM #33
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11-28-2008, 03:36 PM #34
LMAO! IDK, I thought I probably would but...no reply. I almost want to ask but don't want to feel like a supp. beggar cause I'm not. They will see that my logs are better then most of them out there (except for yours of course ) And nope on any of the more recent contests but we'll see on the AI promo. I had a lot of entries and odds are that I will win one of the ten!
As far as the mood goes, I kinda wished our cycles were for longer than three days at a time because that's when I notice the mood uplift. I'll have to run it straight after the log ends and report back!kingjameskjf @ seriousnutritionsolutions.com
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11-30-2008, 07:37 PM #35
ZMA Dose 8
-NB- takes ZMA to the next level with
ZMA-5!
Log Basics:
Dosage/Type of ZMA used: 3 caps of ZMA
Effect on Mood (Based on 5-HTP): Nothing much, actually woke up pretty groggy and did not feel like getting up!
Effect: Hmm... didn't feel anything.
Sleep: I actually felt like i slept very well! I remember wakening up once and being like wtf where am i lol (hah no drugs/alcohol)
Waking Up: Very groggy, not feeling it.
Recovery:I'm noticing I'm not getting as sore lately!
Comparison to ZMA-5 or Standard ZMA:
ZMA-5 is now the confirmed reason of increased mood upon waking up! (x2)
As Always, If You Have ANY Questions, Feel Free To Ask!!!
Cant stop, wont stop.
Alpha.
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11-30-2008, 07:42 PM #36
ZMA-5 Dose 9
-NB- takes ZMA to the next level with
ZMA-5!
Log Basics:
Dosage/Type of ZMA used: 3 caps of ZMA-5!!!
Effect on Mood (Based on 5-HTP): Nice relaxation and a slight mood uplift!
Effect: Relaxed within 30min and also felt like i was in a slightly better mood. Niceeee
Sleep: Fell asleep fast, i love it.
Waking Up: Woke up a little tired/groggy, but once i got up i felt pretty good
Recovery: Feeling pretty good.
Comparison to ZMA-5 or Standard ZMA:
What really shines with the ZMA-5 is the fact that i fall asleep effortlesly....
Overall perception of ZMA-5 : So far i am likeing ZMA-5 better than normel ZMA!!
As Always, If You Have ANY Questions, Feel Free To Ask!!!
Cant stop, wont stop.
Alpha.
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11-30-2008, 08:04 PM #37
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12-04-2008, 03:42 AM #38
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12-04-2008, 03:42 AM #39
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12-04-2008, 03:27 PM #40
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12-06-2008, 11:06 AM #41
ZMA-5 Dose 10
-NB- takes ZMA to the next level with
ZMA-5!
Log Basics:
Dosage/Type of ZMA used: 3 caps of ZMA-5!!!
Effect on Mood (Based on 5-HTP): Didn't really feel much right away, but i was extremely tired so i wasn't expecting anything major!
Effect: I was studying when i took my ZMA-5, and i did notice that after about 15 min i was feeling a little bit less stressed...
Sleep: Fell asleep fast, like within 5 min
Waking Up: I woke up in an amazing mood! i was happy and reddy to start the day!
Recovery: I do really feel that the deeper sleep is helping my recovery!
Comparison to ZMA-5 or Standard ZMA:
ZMA-5 is definitly still in the lead.
Overall perception of ZMA-5 :
Deeper sleep and better mood. What more could i ask for out of a ZMA supplement?!?
As Always, If You Have ANY Questions, Feel Free To Ask!!!
Cant stop, wont stop.
Alpha.
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12-06-2008, 07:37 PM #42
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12-06-2008, 09:33 PM #43
Thanks for doing a good job of routinely providing detail feedback regarding ZMA-5 compared to ZMA. Do you think that the format of alternating three days on each product is an effective protocol for making a comparison? There does not seem to be a lot of posting about dreams as the month long comparison goes on. Do you notice that there are less vidid dreams, the same or more after the continued used of these two ZMA products? The %-HTP in the ZMA-5 should cause more REM sleep and therefore more vivid dreams. Looking forward to any comments from the loggers. Thanks in advance.
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12-07-2008, 10:24 AM #44
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12-07-2008, 01:17 PM #45
Yeah i do think that the alternate dosing scheme is effective to a certain extent. I'm able to see the immediate differences between the ZMA and the ZMA-5 in the fact that falling asleep faster and quality of sleep is better on ZMA-5.
I do think however think that if i was to use ZMA-5 for a longer time consistently i would see even more of an improvement in mood and sleep quality. This is because i feel that around the third day my mood definitely improves and my sleep quality continually get deeper/better.Cant stop, wont stop.
Alpha.
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12-07-2008, 01:19 PM #46
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12-07-2008, 01:28 PM #47
ZMA-5 Dose 12
-NB- takes ZMA to the next level with
ZMA-5!
Log Basics:
Dosage/Type of ZMA used: 3 caps of ZMA-5!!!
Effect on Mood (Based on 5-HTP): I really feel a good mood increase the whole day From what i've seen this usually kicks in about the 3rd day...
Effect: After about 20ish minuets post dosing i did feel my self loosen up a bit more. Just felt relaxed
Sleep: Fell asleep really fast, and slept deep! I had some crazy dreams too!
Waking Up: I woke up in an amazing mood! Very refreshed!
Recovery: My legs are feeling a little less sore from leg day, not bad
Comparison to ZMA-5 or Standard ZMA:
ZMA-5 is definitly still in the lead.
Now that SpeedBuff has mentioned it i do feel like i get much more vivid dreams with ZMA-5 then with normal ZMA. It actually feels like the the more days i use ZMA-5 (in a row) the more vivid the dreams get!
Overall perception of ZMA-5 :
Deeper sleep and better mood. What more could i ask for out of a ZMA supplement?!?
As Always, If You Have ANY Questions, Feel Free To Ask!!!
Cant stop, wont stop.
Alpha.
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12-07-2008, 05:19 PM #48
Thanks to you guys for the feedback on the protocol of alternating three days of ZMA-5 and the original ZMA. We originally thought about alternating using four days of each, but then we decided to go with three and three instead. Many others are also starting to report that the effects upon mood elevation become greater the longer they use ZMA-5. We have learned a lot from you guys. All of your logs have provided helpful feedback.
SNAC System
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12-08-2008, 03:51 PM #49
ZMA Dose 10
-NB- takes ZMA to the next level with
ZMA-5!
Log Basics:
Dosage/Type of ZMA used: 3 caps of ZMA-5!!!
Effect on Mood (Based on 5-HTP): My mood was pretty good yesterday. Today i was in a decently good mood also but i noticed that i was a little more stressed i attest that toward no ZMA-5
Effect: Nothing special. Didn't "Feel" anything
Sleep: Woke up 3 times . Not good. On the ZMA-5 i was waking up once at most!
Waking Up: Didn't feel well rested.
Recovery: A little achy to tell you the truth, but i'm guessing that's due to the sleep.
Comparison to ZMA-5 or Standard ZMA:
ZMA-5 keeps pulling further ahead
Overall perception of ZMA-5 :
Deeper sleep and better mood. What more could i ask for out of a ZMA supplement?!?
As Always, If You Have ANY Questions, Feel Free To Ask!!!
Cant stop, wont stop.
Alpha.
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12-09-2008, 12:23 PM #50
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12-09-2008, 12:37 PM #51
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12-09-2008, 09:35 PM #52
lol! ZMA's are not a test booster, HGH, or PH/DS, ect. It is mainly Zinc and Magnesium Aspertate. It helps all athletes and bodybuilders to recover faster as it supplies their bodies with the essential nutrients that it needs which become depleted through exercise. This faster recovery allows for the body's ability to gain strength, mass w/e faster as it is healed quicker. There are other benefits as well such as the improved quality of sleep which also aids in recovery. The 5-HTP in the ZMA-5 helps to boost mood as well.
kingjameskjf @ seriousnutritionsolutions.com
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12-13-2008, 03:32 AM #53
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12-14-2008, 12:24 PM #55
ZMA Dose 11
-NB- takes ZMA to the next level with
ZMA-5!
Log Basics:
Dosage/Type of ZMA used: 3 caps of ZMA original
Effect on Mood (Based on 5-HTP): i don't feel the same "de stress" effect i get from he ZMA-5
Effect: Nothing special. Didn't "Feel" anything
Sleep: Woke up twice. So no real difference from no ZMA
Waking Up: Woke up normal, nothing too special.
Recovery: Nothing ground breaking, but overall a slight improvement!
Comparison to ZMA-5 or Standard ZMA:
ZMA-5 keeps pulling further ahead
Overall perception of ZMA-5 :
- I stand by this statement
lol quick extra, i've also noticed a less of a refractory period while using ZMA I'm guessing the extra zinc is helping!
As Always, If You Have ANY Questions, Feel Free To Ask!!!
Cant stop, wont stop.
Alpha.
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12-14-2008, 12:48 PM #56
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12-14-2008, 12:50 PM #57
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12-17-2008, 01:46 PM #58
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12-17-2008, 01:51 PM #59
Dose 12 ZMA
-NB- takes ZMA to the next level with
ZMA-5!
Log Basics:
Dosage/Type of ZMA used: 3 caps of ZMA original
Effect on Mood (Based on 5-HTP): i dont get the same relaxing effects that i love from ZMA-5, but the deep sleep is still pretty nice
Effect: Nothing special. Didn't "Feel" anything
Sleep: I slept pretty good. I did wake up twice, but i fell right back to sleep My dreams were crazy vivid last night too!?!? hah, it was pretty fun!
Waking Up: Woke up normely. Didn't jump out of bed, but wasn't too groggy either.
Recovery: I do feel that i am recovering at a little bit of a faster rate
Comparison to ZMA-5 or Standard ZMA:
ZMA-5 keeps pulling further ahead I'm missing the falling asleep right away part!
Overall perception of ZMA-5 :
Great ZMA+ product!
As Always, If You Have ANY Questions, Feel Free To Ask!!!
Cant stop, wont stop.
Alpha.
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12-17-2008, 02:01 PM #60
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