Are you over 29 and Deadlift Since Teen?

[MrMuscleGuy]

For those who are over 29 and deadlift regularly since teenage, has deadlifting benefited you? I just want to make sure that I am not on the road to injury when I get older from deadlifts. For me, proper technique is of utmost importance. Thanks.

[phikappa]

I've been deadlifting since I was 15.

[MrMuscleGuy]

I've been deadlifting since I was 15.

And no injury from it right?

[phikappa]

And no injury from it right?

Nothing more than scraped shins and a pulled muscle. No biggie.

[ironmaidn4life]

I have and occasionally do since I was a teenager. I am not a huge fan. If your form is not PRESTINE, and your are not a competitive body builder/powerlifter I would steer away from them. They are notorious for causing low back and/or shoulder injury if done incorrectly. Just my .02 worth.

[phikappa]

I have and occasionally do since I was a teenager. I am not a huge fan. If your form is not PRESTINE, and your are not a competitive body builder/powerlifter I would steer away from them. They are notorious for causing low back and/or shoulder injury if done incorrectly. Just my .02 worth.

I guess I must be doing them correctly.

[ironwill2008]

I actually didn't start training until I was 45, but have deadlifted/rack pulled ever since. No injuries, at all, but a bunch of strength and muscle. Of course, it goes without saying, your form must be near-perfect, as well as your nutrition, and have a structured routine to go along with deadlifting.

BTW, any exercise can hurt you, if you perform it incorrectly, not just deads.

[culican]

53yo, have been deadlifting since I was 29 (1985). A few pulled muscles but I always recovered in a week or so.

Great exercise!

[Noviomagus]

I think the trick is not to go beyond what you can lift in good form.
and that means putting the barbell down ,if you can not do that extra 1 rep or two in good form.

[OutOfStep]

I do deads for hamstrings, so I do Romanian, not off the floor and have been doing these since I was about 20 years old and I've never been injured once other than the odd pulled muscle. I feel it's a great exercise not only for the hamstring but the entire back as well. I'll go up to about 405 on these and keeping your back tight the whole time will leave you good and sore the next day. As long as you keep an eye on your form and don't let yourself get sloppy trying to impress people, you should be fine with these. You just can't get that coveted thick, powerful, look without these and heavy bent rows IMO.

[gbg]

I do deads for hamstrings, so I do Romanian, not off the floor and have been doing these since I was about 20 years old and I've never been injured once other than the odd pulled muscle. I feel it's a great exercise not only for the hamstring but the entire back as well. I'll go up to about 405 on these and keeping your back tight the whole time will leave you good and sore the next day. As long as you keep an eye on your form and don't let yourself get sloppy trying to impress people, you should be fine with these. You just can't get that coveted thick, powerful, look without these and heavy bent rows IMO.

405 that's all??? love the thick look....

[mavrick77]

For those who are over 29 and deadlift regularly since teenage, has deadlifting benefited you? I just want to make sure that I am not on the road to injury when I get older from deadlifts. For me, proper technique is of utmost importance. Thanks.

31 here bro, used to deadlift since i was 15.........havent touched it in 4 years, 2 ruptured disk.

[mavrick77]

I have and occasionally do since I was a teenager. I am not a huge fan. If your form is not PRESTINE, and your are not a competitive body builder/powerlifter I would steer away from them. They are notorious for causing low back and/or shoulder injury if done incorrectly. Just my .02 worth.

I wouldnt even say if done incorrectly....all it takes is one move. when I ruptured my disk I had been deadlifting over 6 plates a few days before, BUT that is not when I did it..... was twisted funny picking up a 25lb dumbell, and ruptured both of them.... one wrong move and they could really screw up your back, i guess that lesson taught me just how carefull to be with your back, when that goes, your helpless.

[gbg]

I wouldnt even say if done incorrectly....all it takes is one move. when I ruptured my disk I had been deadlifting over 6 plates a few days before, BUT that is not when I did it..... was twisted funny picking up a 25lb dumbell, and ruptured both of them.... one wrong move and they could really screw up your back, i guess that lesson taught me just how carefull to be with your back, when that goes, your helpless.

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Noviomagus]

I wouldnt even say if done incorrectly....all it takes is one move. when I ruptured my disk I had been deadlifting over 6 plates a few days before, BUT that is not when I did it..... was twisted funny picking up a 25lb dumbell, and ruptured both of them.... one wrong move and they could really screw up your back, i guess that lesson taught me just how carefull to be with your back, when that goes, your helpless.

wow,
so you mean even if your form is correct it is an exercise which puts too much pressure on the spine and into the dangerzone?

but six plates.that's quite a lot.more than 572 LBS.
maybe the weight itself is too much fot the spine?300 LBS for one may be/feel as heavy as 700LBS for another.but the discs do have to be able to take that pressure of 700LBS.

was twisted funny picking up a 25lb dumbell, and ruptured both of them

by the way,I've heard that more than one time .an injury occuring when someone was pcking up somthing very light off the ground.
but the heavy weights did set them up for that injury occuring.

[gbg]

wow,
so you mean even if your form is correct it is an exercise which puts too much pressure on the spine and into the dangerzone?

but six plates.that's quite a lot.more than 572 LBS.
maybe the weight itself is too much fot the spine?300 LBS for one may be/feel as heavy as 700LBS for another.but the discs do have to be able to take that pressure of 700LBS.

The fact that he was dead lifting heavy the day before most likely had a roll and probably irritated something so not much was needed to
"finish the job"

[mavrick77]

wow,
so you mean even if your form is correct it is an exercise which puts too much pressure on the spine and into the dangerzone?

but six plates.that's quite a lot.more than 572 LBS.
maybe the weight itself is too much fot the spine?300 LBS for one may be/feel as heavy as 700LBS for another.but the discs do have to be able to take that pressure of 700LBS.

by the way,I've heard that more than one time .an injury occuring when someone was pcking up somthing very light off the ground.
but the heavy weights did set them up for that injury occuring.

I guess that was my whole point, is the weight doesnt matter....a deadlift is putting the spine in a "injury prone" position.....why risk it, I never noticed a huge difference in my physique after I quite. if anything it made my waist smaller....when I did heavy deads, i could compete with a 34" waist....now when I cut up its more like a 32"

now granted I do still do hyperextensions for my lower back development

[gbg]

I guess that was my whole point, is the weight doesnt matter....a deadlift is putting the spine in a "injury prone" position.....why risk it, I never noticed a huge difference in my physique after I quite. if anything it made my waist smaller....when I did heavy deads, i could compete with a 34" waist....now when I cut up its more like a 32"

now granted I do still do hyperextensions for my lower back development

So refreshing to here! Many people are into the "you must dead lift"



NOT TRUE

[mavrick77]

So refreshing to here! Many people are into the "you must dead lift"



NOT TRUE

nahh you dont have to deadlift.....hell I would say you dont even have to squat (most people dont do it correctly anyhow)...yes I still do think squats, when done correctly, are the king of all leg exercises. However, when my back is hurting, I avoid them like the plague and do pre-exaustion with leg extensions and then heavy leg presses with multiple foot positions, and tell you what...when its hard to walk the next day, i know I did something right.

I guess the key is, if it hurts dont do it, and learn your body and what will work for you. too many people try to get the "short cut" and do what others do, without taking the time to learn there own body.....this after all is a JOURNEY, not a short weekend trip.

[Noviomagus]

The fact that he was dead lifting heavy the day before most likely had a roll and probably irritated something so not much was needed to
"finish the job"

that is what I'm thinking also.
the discs are weakenedby the heavy weights,prone for injury.and they need just a little 'push'to get injured I guess.

[Noviomagus]

I guess that was my whole point, is the weight doesnt matter....a deadlift is putting the spine in a "injury prone" position.....why risk it, I never noticed a huge difference in my physique after I quite. if anything it made my waist smaller....when I did heavy deads, i could compete with a 34" waist....now when I cut up its more like a 32"

now granted I do still do hyperextensions for my lower back development

it is an exercise with a higher injury risk than others.

I'm wondering now how many older men and/or women are still deadlifting and did so through their life.and do fine doing them.

cause I know that there people who are against squatting.thinking they are unsafe.
but I like them.
I just don't go over 264 LBS.most of the time doing high reps with220LBS(20to 30 reps).
it feels good !
and in other people's eyes it may seem 'pussyweight',but I have to do what works and feels best for me.

your thicker waist when deadlifting was due to the thicker muscles around your core I think.
thicker erectors obliques perhaps too.

[Noviomagus]

So refreshing to here! Many people are into the "you must dead lift"



NOT TRUE

I completely agree.

it's a bit of a macho thing.
lifting 'big ass weights'.

as if you're more of a man(or 'tough' woman) when you can do that lol.

[FINNTASTIC]

Lets see I got into Lifting when I was 19 to rehab my back. I buldged 2 disks in my back when I was 18ish. Started getting serious about weight training by the time I was 20. Started doing DL's (romainian, std and straight leg) around that time. I am now 33 and still do them all....although I dont go as heavy as I used to....455ish vs 365ish now for reps. Oh yeah I am 6'3" and 240lbs. While I still have the bulging disks I get absolutly no pain from DL's before after or during. I am convinced that DL's with a ton of ab and oblique work I keep my back off the surgens table.

USE nothing less than perfect for and you will be fine. Work around pain....never through it.

[Noviomagus]

Lets see I got into Lifting when I was 19 to rehab my back. I buldged 2 disks in my back when I was 18ish. Started getting serious about weight training by the time I was 20. Started doing DL's (romainian, std and straight leg) around that time. I am now 33 and still do them all....although I dont go as heavy as I used to....455ish vs 365ish now for reps. Oh yeah I am 6'3" and 240lbs. While I still have the bulging disks I get absolutly no pain from DL's before after or during. I am convinced that DL's with a ton of ab and oblique work I keep my back off the surgens table.

USE nothing less than perfect for and you will be fine. Work around pain....never through it.

that's some good info to hear :-)
so it can be the other way around.

[gbg]

Lets see I got into Lifting when I was 19 to rehab my back. I buldged 2 disks in my back when I was 18ish. Started getting serious about weight training by the time I was 20. Started doing DL's (romainian, std and straight leg) around that time. I am now 33 and still do them all....although I dont go as heavy as I used to....455ish vs 365ish now for reps. Oh yeah I am 6'3" and 240lbs. While I still have the bulging disks I get absolutly no pain from DL's before after or during. I am convinced that DL's with a ton of ab and oblique work I keep my back off the surgens table.

USE nothing less than perfect for and you will be fine. Work around pain....never through it.

Just my o2, I would never have surgery for a budging disk or a herniated disk unless it was compressing the spinal cord or other serious issue.

[FINNTASTIC]

Yeah I don't want surgery....but back when I hurt it it was like an electric knife stuck in my back. Also I am not saying that lifting has fixed the disks but it has most definately made my core stronger around an otherwise week link. For the most part the only pain I get now is if I twist funny.....I have NEVER had a problem with my back in the gym.

[gbg]

Yeah I don't want surgery....but back when I hurt it it was like an electric knife stuck in my back. Also I am not saying that lifting has fixed the disks but it has most definately made my core stronger around an otherwise week link. For the most part the only pain I get now is if I twist funny.....I have NEVER had a problem with my back in the gym.

Great news! all I'm saying is do your homework before getting surgery for disk herniations, sometimes they are to quick to put you on the operating table.

[Noviomagus]

Great news! all I'm saying is do your homework before getting surgery for disk herniations, sometimes they are to quick to put you on the operating table.

yeah,I even read that knee surgeries aren't helpful much either.

Arthritis knee op 'does not work'
An operation offered to ease the symptoms of osteoarthritis makes no difference, say Canadian doctors.

Patients given knee arthroscopy showed no improvement beyond that provided by physiotherapy and painkillers.

Arthritis experts in the UK said some surgeons were still carrying out the operation, against national guidance.

They said New England Journal of Medicine study showed doctors still relying on the technique to treat osteoarthritis were misguided.


"Surgeons still performing this operation need to ask themselves why they are doing it "
Spokesman
Arthritis Research Campaign

Thousands of people in the UK suffer from osteoarthritis in the knee, which can be painful and limit movement.

The operation involves inserting instruments through small incisions to try to flush out loose fragments of cartilage, and to smooth the surfaces of the joints, in the hope that this will relieve symptoms.

A group of 178 men and women, with an average age of 60, were enrolled in the trial at the University of Western Ontario.

All of them were given physiotherapy and painkilling drugs such as ibuprofen, but half of the volunteers were also given the "lavage and debridement" procedure.

When their symptoms were compared at various points afterwards, the group who had the operation were faring no better than those who had not received it.

Guidelines breached

Dr Brian Feagan, one of the researchers, said: "This is definitive evidence that arthroscopic surgery provides no additional therapeutic value when added to physical therapy and medication for patients with moderate osteoarthritis of the knee."

This type of surgery is still recommended for some other knee conditions, including more severe osteoarthritis where the knee is "locked" in position, but is not recommended for moderate osteoarthritis by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence, which formulates UK guidelines.

A spokesman for the Arthritis Research Campaign said there was no longer any excuse for performing it in patients with less severe arthritis.

"Arthroscopic lavage and debridement is still commonly performed in the US but more rarely in the UK over the past ten years, and is no longer accepted as an effective treatment for osteoarthritis of the knee in this country.

"Surgeons still performing this operation need to ask themselves why they are doing it."


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...th/7607891.stm

Published: 2008/09/12 08:03:04 GMT

? BBC MMVIII

[Arlecchino]

Been picking up heavy things since I was 14 (started in OL'ing). Out of all the competitive lifts, the deadlift is my best lift, and I have never had a back injury.

My first coach hammered the need for good technique into my head, and I am profoundly greatful for this.

[MrMuscleGuy]

Been picking up heavy things since I was 14 (started in OL'ing). Out of all the competitive lifts, the deadlift is my best lift, and I have never had a back injury.

My first coach hammered the need for good technique into my head, and I am profoundly greatful for this.

Whew! Some of the above posts was making me unsure about whether to continue deadlifts. This one was reassuring. I always think about my form when I'm doing them. Glad I had a pretty good personal trainer, which I've notice is rare, and I studied the technique from Ripptoe's book. No room for ego since what good is it when others see you get injured.

I do realize that deadlifts and squats are not necessary but they make me feel good. Not too sure why, but after being to several fitness clubs here, not many people do squats and I don't even remember seeing anybody else do deadlifts.