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    Non-COVID, Excess Deaths in US Since Vaccine Roll-Out Near 1 Million, Vaxes to Blame

    Never-before-performed calculations show that the number of excess, non-COVID deaths in the US since the 2021 release of the mRNA vaccines is 904,000 deaths. These are deaths not caused by COVID, and are over and above the number of deaths which would be expected given normal death rates, which vary little from year-to-year.

    At the same time, the number of global, non-COVID deaths which are over and above normal pre-2020 death rates is about 20 million, a shocking figure given no attention by the heavily pharmaceuticals-influenced media, representing over three Holocausts in three years.

    The data on which the figures are based are publicly available sources. Overall, deaths in the US and around the world, long after COVID, are about 20% higher than they were before 2020. Furthermore, thousands of doctors and scientists maintain and have long maintained that the novel mRNA COVID vaccines are responsible, but voices are silenced if they disagree with the official position of WHO that the mRNA vaccines are safe.





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    Pathologist Prof. Dr. Arne Burkhardt, EU Parliament May 3, 2023, COVID Vaccines as Cause of Deaths



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    Why do you keep posting the same ridiculous threads, while providing ABSOLUTELY ZERO proof of what is actually causing "excess deaths"?

    How is 2019 claimed to be a "baseline" for 2023, when total deaths increased by 140,000/year in the four years preceding 2019 (which implies they'd naturally increase at least that much in the four years following 2019)?

    And, of course, the most obvious question: If vaccines are claimed to be the sole cause of excess deaths... HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN 2020?
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    OP, it seems there's much less to be worried about. According to your fellow conspiracy quack, "a lot of people" didn't actually get the vaccine they thought, so they're in no danger. Yay!

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    A lot of people got pure saline injections that they thought was the covid shot. Saline injections don't count as "being vaccinated".
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Why do you keep posting the same ridiculous threads, while providing ABSOLUTELY ZERO proof of what is actually causing "excess deaths"?

    How is 2019 claimed to be a "baseline" for 2023, when total deaths increased by 140,000/year in the four years preceding 2019 (which implies they'd naturally increase at least that much in the four years following 2019)?

    And, of course, the most obvious question: If vaccines are claimed to be the sole cause of excess deaths... HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN 2020?
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    Originally Posted by chicagopizzaboy View Post
    nutball in 1 minute flat. Over the target.

    Why do you think putting things in bold like a 10-year-old makes you righter?
    The bold just highlights all the simple questions you can't answer, and all your lies which you can't defend. You've had 12 hours to directly answer what should be simple questions (if your claims were based in fact and reality). Instead, all you could come up with is some personal insults.

    Edit: Yup, utterly incapable of proving your claims, or answering what should be simple questions
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    The bold just highlights all the simple questions you can't answer, and all your lies which you can't defend. You've had 12 hours to directly answer what should be simple questions (if your claims were based in fact and reality). Instead, all you could come up with is some personal insults.
    waiting.
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    The bold just highlights all the simple questions you can't answer, and all your lies which you can't defend. You've had 12 hours to directly answer what should be simple questions (if your claims were based in fact and reality). Instead, all you could come up with is some personal insults.

    Edit: Yup, utterly incapable of proving your claims, or answering what should be simple questions
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    Originally Posted by chicagopizzaboy View Post
    What insult? How do you refute the numbers?
    What insult. The one you edited out: "Last edited by chicagopizzaboy; Today at 01:48 AM."

    I clearly refuted in them in Post #2, which you've been unable to address for nearly two weeks...

    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Why do you keep posting the same ridiculous threads, while providing ABSOLUTELY ZERO proof of what is actually causing "excess deaths"?

    How is 2019 claimed to be a "baseline" for 2023, when total deaths increased by 140,000/year in the four years preceding 2019 (which implies they'd naturally increase at least that much in the four years following 2019)?

    And, of course, the most obvious question: If vaccines are claimed to be the sole cause of excess deaths... HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN 2020?

    YOUR OWN LINK disproves your ranting claims... US deaths rates are going DOWN, after a pre-vaccine peak in 2020. Your own data disproves that vaccines caused excess deaths, or are continuing to fuel them. Oops.


    https://deadorkicking.com/death-statistics/us/2024/
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    YOUR OWN LINK disproves your ranting claims... US deaths rates are going DOWN, after a pre-vaccine peak in 2020. Your own data disproves that vaccines caused excess deaths, or are continuing to fuel them. Oops.
    How does US death rates going down, but still being much higher than pre-Covid, disprove that vaccines are causing excess deaths? Given that the pandemic's over, and has been for a while, isn't it cause for concern for deaths to still be as high as they are after this time?
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    What insult. The one you edited out: "Last edited by chicagopizzaboy; Today at 01:48 AM."

    I clearly refuted in them in Post #2, which you've been unable to address for nearly two weeks...




    YOUR OWN LINK disproves your ranting claims... US deaths rates are going DOWN, after a pre-vaccine peak in 2020. Your own data disproves that vaccines caused excess deaths, or are continuing to fuel them. Oops.


    https://deadorkicking.com/death-statistics/us/2024/
    Your chart shows that total deaths have skyrocketed since Covid, and after that since the vaxes. It shows death rates going down because births and immigration population is going up. When you divide deaths by a bigger population, your number gets smaller, you moron.

    As for cause that is the biggest gaslight of all. The vaxes should have been pulled at latest in March of 2021 when VAERS reports hit 1,000, whether there was proof of cause by vaccines or not. In science the burden is on pharma to prove the drugs are NOT the cause of high deaths. Not on the public to prove that they are.

    If you went to a doctor blown up like a balloon and you told him the only thing you did different was eat peanuts for the first time in your life the day before, is he going to drone "correlation not equal causation, go ahead and keep eating peanuts?"

    No. But that is exactly what fools like you have been programmed to do, like a fukkig robot. Moreover, evidence of causation is overwhelming, but openly and aggressively censored. Causation is proven by data, by extensive autopsies, and explanation of the mechanism of damage by censored scientists such as Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi.

    You are well aware of all this because you are skilled in the rhetorical devices to make up look like down and left look like right. It is fun calling you a moron but I don't think you actually are one. You know what you are doing. So as a shill for Big Pharma you are worse. You are a murdering piece of chit.



    Dr. Arne Burkhardt taught at the Universities of Hamburg, Berne and Tübingen. He published more than 150 scientific articles in international scientific journals, and has audited and certified institutes of pathology. Presentation at European Parliament blaming COVID vaccines for excess deaths, 15 minutes: https://rumble.com/v2sjx7w-how-covid...e-burkhar.html


    Summary of his slides:
    https://twitter.com/DrJohnB2/status/1654204679348273154
    - In 77% of the autopsies, the findings indicate that «vaccination had an important impact on the death process
    - all organs are affected, the spike protein is in practically in all organs, mainly in the vessels
    - Heart tissue with disintegrated muscle fibers and lymphocytic infiltration
    - Detection of spike protein in the heart tissue
    - Needle biopsy of brain tissue
    - Damaged vessel with dense infiltration of lymphocyte and bleeding in the surrounding area
    - Damaged brain tissue - Spike protein in nerve cells
    - A specimen of the aorta - Clear damage can be seen: on the right is a splitting of the tissue layer and a haemorrhage visible - Person died of rupture of the aorta
    - Damage of the vessels in the brain - Fragmented elastic lamella - Microanyrism
    - Damaged elastic fibers in the skin (causes skin aging, premature aging) - These elastic fibers were «dramatically reduced - Damaged elastic fibers in the subcutaneous tissue
    Conclusions: - The COVID-19 vaccination is associated with damage of heart muscle cells, nerve cells, vessels and elastic lamella... devastating findings for the long-term future... "... really alarming"

    https://twitter.com/DrJohnB2/status/1654204679348273154








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    March 2021, Presentation of Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi, Professor Emeritus of the University of Mainz, and winner of the Aronson Prize for achievements in microbiology and immunology. Introduction to disability and death by mRNA
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    How does US death rates going down, but still being much higher than pre-Covid, disprove that vaccines are causing excess deaths? Given that the pandemic's over, and has been for a while, isn't it cause for concern for deaths to still be as high as they are after this time?
    Because excess deaths started one year BEFORE Covid vaccines were available. So clearly there's some other cause to excess deaths.

    OP has yet to provide ANY proof that vaccines have caused any significant number of excess deaths, let alone ALL excess deaths, including a time-traveling vaccine that started killing a year before it went into use.
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    Endlessly reposting the same disproven crap over and over and over...
    Still doesn't prove your disproven crap
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Because excess deaths started one year BEFORE Covid vaccines were available. So clearly there's some other cause to excess deaths.

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    Do you wear a football helmet? In 2020 that cause was deferred medical care due to lockdowns, inappropriate intubation, suicides, and Blue state governors like Cuomo and Whitmer shoving people with flu or COVID into nursing homes.

    Which is one of the most prosecutable crimes of the COVID crimes thanks for bringing it up. They did it to get the death count up so they could declare it an emergency. They even had a hospital ship in NY harbor, and the converted Javits Center, sitting empty.

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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Because excess deaths started one year BEFORE Covid vaccines were available. So clearly there's some other cause to excess deaths.

    OP has yet to provide ANY proof that vaccines have caused any significant number of excess deaths, let alone ALL excess deaths, including a time-traveling vaccine that started killing a year before it went into use.
    Excess deaths were high one year before Covid vaccines because of Covid, but the pandemic's over now, the strains that are about are far weaker, the oldest and sickest passed away early into the pandemic and the majority of people in Western nations are vaccinated.

    With that in mind, how does it make sense for the death rate to still be as high as it is, especially with Covid deaths being reduced?
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    Originally Posted by TheJimmyRustler View Post
    Excess deaths were high one year before Covid vaccines because of Covid, but the pandemic's over now, the strains that are about are far weaker, the oldest and sickest passed away early into the pandemic and the majority of people in Western nations are vaccinated.

    With that in mind, how does it make sense for the death rate to still be as high as it is, especially with Covid deaths being reduced?
    It doesn't make sense... but to randomly claim the only possible answer is one cause, a cause which HASN'T been proven, is absurd. We're supposed to believe that Covid magically only caused excess deaths for one year, then instantly all further deaths were solely due to one and only one other cause?
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    It doesn't make sense... but to randomly claim the only possible answer is one cause, a cause which HASN'T been proven, is absurd. We're supposed to believe that Covid magically only caused excess deaths for one year, then instantly all further deaths were solely due to one and only one other cause?
    See, this makes more sense, pointing out that the vaccines being responsible hasn't been proven; very different to claiming that the theory of them being responsible for excess deaths has been disproven. I'd agree that anyone claiming the vaccines are what's killing absolutely everyone is a moron, but it's definitely concerning that they've remained so high despite the pandemic being over and most people in countries that are experiencing such high excess deaths being majority vaccinated, ie you wouldn't expect Covid to have been such an issue for them.
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Because excess deaths started one year BEFORE Covid vaccines were available. So clearly there's some other cause to excess deaths.

    OP has yet to provide ANY proof that vaccines have caused any significant number of excess deaths, let alone ALL excess deaths, including a time-traveling vaccine that started killing a year before it went into use.
    Bro, these are stats for excess deaths NOT from covid.

    World-wide it's now 20 million. It's pretty obvious what the cause is since the ONLY change has been the vaccines.

    20 million unexplained excess deaths compared to 7 million covid deaths. Do the math.

    I know some of you wern't born with ability to think logically, but got damn, is so ****ing obvious even for low IQ sheeple.

    You know what's sad? The majority of excess deaths are younger healthy people. Whereas, covid only kills old and severely unhealthy people.

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    Excess deaths were high one year before Covid vaccines because of Covid, but the pandemic's over now, the strains that are about are far weaker, the oldest and sickest passed away early into the pandemic and the majority of people in Western nations are vaccinated.

    With that in mind, how does it make sense for the death rate to still be as high as it is, especially with Covid deaths being reduced?
    Could there be longer term effects from infection?
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    Could there be longer term effects from infection?
    Sure, just like there could be long-term health effects from the vaccines.
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    Originally Posted by pondus_levo View Post
    Bro, these are stats for excess deaths NOT from covid.
    Utterly false statement. The cited graph has no such caveat.

    World-wide it's now 20 million. It's pretty obvious what the cause is since the ONLY change has been the vaccines.
    Really? NOTHING else has changed in the world in the past four years? That's a ridiculously absurd claim.

    You know what's sad? The majority of excess deaths are younger healthy people.
    Please cite your source for age-based death rates.
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    Sure, just like there could be long-term health effects from the vaccines.
    Sure. But there's a lot of evidence of the range of complications that can arise post acute infection. The evidence regarding adverse events from vaccination generally show acute reactions and complications.
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Utterly false statement. The cited graph has no such caveat.


    Really? NOTHING else has changed in the world in the past four years? That's a ridiculously absurd claim.


    Please cite your source for age-based death rates.
    Then do your own research, idiot.

    Global Excess deaths(all causes, rounded):
    2020 = 5 million
    2021 = 9 million
    2022 = 7 million
    2023 = 5 million (estimated)

    Total covid deaths to date - 7 million (and we all know this has been massively overstated, since covid only kills the extremely old and sick)

    Thats nearly 20 million excess deaths NOT attributed to covid.

    I cannot fathom how ignorant and blind to reality most of you are.
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    Originally Posted by pondus_levo View Post
    Then do your own research, idiot.

    Global Excess deaths(all causes, rounded):
    2020 = 5 million
    2021 = 9 million
    2022 = 7 million
    2023 = 5 million (estimated)

    Total covid deaths to date - 7 million (and we all know this has been massively overstated, since covid only kills the extremely old and sick)

    Thats nearly 20 million excess deaths NOT attributed to covid.

    I cannot fathom how ignorant and blind to reality most of you are.
    That's more than three Holocausts worth of people dead from non-Covid causes since vaccine roll-out and not a peep from Jew media. (If you buy the 6 million number)
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    Nutsy the only conservative that simps for the clot shot and the covid agenda lmao
    Nutsy is not a conservative. He is a shill. You can tell by the forms of argument he habitually uses, misstating what the post says, name calling, absurdist logic. His job is to prevent the discussion from advancing to items like this:

    Another Fauci/Gates vaccine bloodbath being covered up by the Jew media: Excess deaths at 20% in Australia, no Covid deaths

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/e...t&country=~AUS


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    20 fuking percent.
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    Nutsy the only conservative that simps for the clot shot and the covid agenda lmao
    Yet you and OP still can't directly address any of the facts I've posted, or the questions I've asked. OP just keeps reposting the same old disproven or disingenuous crap.
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