Is it better to do triceps with Back or Chest? And biceps?

[Einhander12]

I notice some people do push, pull and leg splits. It makes sense, but I've been doing Back and Triceps together. I get a much better workout in my triceps that way. And my biceps still feel worked. When I do biceps after back, I can't really do quality bicep work because they're fatigued. So the way I see it is, I'm working my arms more directly if I do them opposite of the bigger muscle group worked (chest-biceps, back-triceps). And I like to sometimes do shoulders on leg day. Or the other option is on chest day. But I feel like my shoulders are already getting indirect work on chest day or back day. So when I do them on a separate day, my compound lifts feel more fresh.


Do you think that's a good 3 day split? (Chest-Biceps) (Back-Triceps) (Legs-Shoulders) I used to do a 5 day split, but biking and cardio are actually my main form of exercise, so I don't always have room for more than 3-4 days.

[WolfRose7]

Its utterly insignificant really. So just do what you prefer.

[Einhander12]

Its utterly insignificant really. So just do what you prefer.

That's what I figured.

[air2fakie]

You may want to list what you're doing on those days if you're going to ask if your split is good. That's a separate issue from everything in your first paragraph.

[BeginnerGainz]

That's what I figured.

Dorian Yates did chest and biceps and then shoulders and triceps. I see no reason why back and triceps couldn’t work together.

Do what you like.

[TolerantLactose]

The thing about splits is that they all make some sort of sense.

[TAWS6]

Triceps really don’t need a ton of isolation. They are involved in every pushing movement and even in some pulling. I can only imagine how many iso tri lifts you’re doing lol

[bforrester78]

I prefer to train biceps with back and triceps with chest/shoulders. You'll get a lot of overlap, otherwise.

If you consider either to be lagging and you're happier with your back or chest development, move biceps or triceps to the beginning of your workout, while they're fresh, for a while. It may actually help your chest and back training to pre-fatigue those synergistic muscles, as you'll have to pull/press more with the prime movers to make up for the bi/tri fatigue.

[dgoyena216]

It literally doesnt matter its all preference. As long as number of sets across a week are adequate for the muscles in question.

[chizzald]

No.... it is better to do push movements with other push movements. Tris should be done with chest or shoulders. These are push movements. Otherwise you'll be training push muscles two days in a row. They need to rest so they can recover. Always leave at least a day in between training a muscle group

I notice some people do push, pull and leg splits. It makes sense, but I've been doing Back and Triceps together. I get a much better workout in my triceps that way. And my biceps still feel worked. When I do biceps after back, I can't really do quality bicep work because they're fatigued. So the way I see it is, I'm working my arms more directly if I do them opposite of the bigger muscle group worked (chest-biceps, back-triceps). And I like to sometimes do shoulders on leg day. Or the other option is on chest day. But I feel like my shoulders are already getting indirect work on chest day or back day. So when I do them on a separate day, my compound lifts feel more fresh.


Do you think that's a good 3 day split? (Chest-Biceps) (Back-Triceps) (Legs-Shoulders) I used to do a 5 day split, but biking and cardio are actually my main form of exercise, so I don't always have room for more than 3-4 days.

[MyEgoProblem]

Rest days like that arent really necessary at all.

No doubt they can be nice to have tho.

Look into dual factor recovery. (fitness-fatigue model) You just don't need to be recovered like the old bro-lore suggests to adapt and grow.

[ezra76]

From what I'm reading 48hours for muscle recovery from intense exercise. I don't do a ton of accessory but still try to keep back/bi's and chest/tris for the most part so I can put 100% into next workout.

[HY45]

I notice some people do push, pull and leg splits. It makes sense, but I've been doing Back and Triceps together. I get a much better workout in my triceps that way. And my biceps still feel worked. When I do biceps after back, I can't really do quality bicep work because they're fatigued. So the way I see it is, I'm working my arms more directly if I do them opposite of the bigger muscle group worked (chest-biceps, back-triceps). And I like to sometimes do shoulders on leg day. Or the other option is on chest day. But I feel like my shoulders are already getting indirect work on chest day or back day. So when I do them on a separate day, my compound lifts feel more fresh.


Do you think that's a good 3 day split? (Chest-Biceps) (Back-Triceps) (Legs-Shoulders) I used to do a 5 day split, but biking and cardio are actually my main form of exercise, so I don't always have room for more than 3-4 days.

I do a pull and push workout, I put legs in on push day. I do biceps at end of pull day, and triceps at end of push day. But at the end of the day, it’s personal preference. Just be consistent is what I have learned, for me.