Just wanted to post my friends insane deadlift workouts

[John Prophet]

I am in touch with a guy online....he sends me his workouts sometimes....his ideas are VERY original, lol

for example he will work a lift several days in a row

here is what he just sent me...I bolded the interesting parts and I added the numbering so it makes more sense
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Now,heavy deadlift ,training starts.

TODAY,deads and gm for 4.5 hrs.

1) DID 477,2 REPS,WANTED a triple.,,was pr double by 5lbs.

2) Alternated singles,with 405,for fast speed.
With 9 singles,44o to 480.
Did 2,singles at480.

(not sure of his exact max....but if he did a double at 477 then he is probably at 490 to 500 max?...so these singles at 480 are like 96% of his max, lol......so counting from the 440 that would be about 9 singles above 88%)

3) chain deads to 465,40lb chain.
CHain dead,405,up to80lb chain.
miss at knees, 155lb chain.

4) rack dead pin one,,490,,20lb pr.

5) Alternated,1.5inch box dead,,with 5in box.
all 3 sets 405,,to 315 triples.

6) Bentleg gm to425 single.
UPPERback,,fryed from all the deadlifting.

7) pr,60lb situp,lying on floor,feet not braced.


MORE DEADS,,TOMORROW.


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all in all a VERY davastating workout when you consider the load and the intensity......consider that ANY of the individual exercises 1-4 would be a serious workout.....then consider doing them all together, plus more, in a workout that lasts 4.5 hours, lol


JP

[2 Shades Darker]

sounds very dangerous actually

[John Prophet]

hehe...its nothing yet...that was just day 1...iIam guessing he will do deads for like 4 days this week

[moondg29]

hehe...its nothing yet...that was just day 1...iIam guessing he will do deads for like 4 days this week

Original? Yes.

Good? No.

[VariantInterval]

^ hey, if he gets progression that way and his body can handle it, then it aint much of a problem, no?

most people would burn out after just a day or two of that kind of deadlifting though.

[John Prophet]

cest la vie

I am pretty sure that is how the guy "Isaac Nessar" trains....the guy who is in the guinness book for largets musclular arms and chest...like a 74" chest, lol

[randall_truscot]

if his training is so special why can he only double 480?

[tjoe]

Training the same lift for several days is not a new idea. It started in prisons (I think) when inmates would only have access to certain equip for a period of time. Then when they were moved, they would have access to something diferent. Not ideal but it would work.

[Mateo_66]

Deadlifts in my opinion are better left short and sweet(intense) workouts. Get it done get out and go to sleep!!!! If he doubled 477 his max should be around 500+ My best double was with 500 and my max is 545. Deadlift is hard to judge since its more about mental toughness than anything else.

[Mateo_66]

I am in touch with a guy online....he sends me his workouts sometimes....his ideas are VERY original, lol

for example he will work a lift several days in a row

here is what he just sent me...I bolded the interesting parts and I added the numbering so it makes more sense
----

Now,heavy deadlift ,training starts.

TODAY,deads and gm for 4.5 hrs.

1) DID 477,2 REPS,WANTED a triple.,,was pr double by 5lbs.

2) Alternated singles,with 405,for fast speed.
With 9 singles,44o to 480.
Did 2,singles at480.

(not sure of his exact max....but if he did a double at 477 then he is probably at 490 to 500 max?...so these singles at 480 are like 96% of his max, lol......so counting from the 440 that would be about 9 singles above 88%)

3) chain deads to 465,40lb chain.
CHain dead,405,up to80lb chain.
miss at knees, 155lb chain.

4) rack dead pin one,,490,,20lb pr.

5) Alternated,1.5inch box dead,,with 5in box.
all 3 sets 405,,to 315 triples.

6) Bentleg gm to425 single.
UPPERback,,fryed from all the deadlifting.

7) pr,60lb situp,lying on floor,feet not braced.


MORE DEADS,,TOMORROW.


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all in all a VERY davastating workout when you consider the load and the intensity......consider that ANY of the individual exercises 1-4 would be a serious workout.....then consider doing them all together, plus more, in a workout that lasts 4.5 hours, lol


JP

Also I did something similar to this. I believe it was a Finnish routine. It was deadlifting 3 times a week. But you did regular deads one day. Sumos the next. and elevated on a box deads the last. It worked well for a short period of time(around 4 weeks). This up here just sounds like murder I look for his name to be in the obitiuarys(sp) soon.

[John Prophet]

lol......can anyoen repost where I said it was a GOOD routine??

I believe the word I used was 'insane', lol

I told him I could never train like him.

I just wanted to post this up so people could see it.....he has a lot of unique ideas about training ligaments etc


his bench routines etc would be similar, lol

[breathingmurder]

Everyone gets angry when someone does something hardcore.

Although I wouldn't train that way.

[John Prophet]

oh yeah....I should post up Kazmiers bench routine, lol....MAD volume....but he was the first guy to bench 300kg

[Mateo_66]

Everyone gets angry when someone does something hardcore.

Although I wouldn't train that way.

Well its not that dude. Its that its not that thought out. If I were him I would choose one exercise each day. One day do Regular deads, next day do the chain deads, next day do goodmornings, next day maybe sumo deads, then rack deads on the last day since they are the most taxing on the cns. Then next week train bench press to give the legs a rest for one week. It actually doesnt sound like that bad of an idea when you put it that way but you would really have to be able to read your body well and get a lot of rest and nutrition in.

[John Prophet]

I can see it now

some dude walks into the gym....he sees my buddy warming up for deads and he is like "hey man, mind if i work in on some deads?"

little does he know he will probably miss the next week of work

[breathingmurder]

Well its not that dude. Its that its not that thought out. If I were him I would choose one exercise each day. One day do Regular deads, next day do the chain deads, next day do goodmornings, next day maybe sumo deads, then rack deads on the last day since they are the most taxing on the cns. Then next week train bench press to give the legs a rest for one week. It actually doesnt sound like that bad of an idea when you put it that way but you would really have to be able to read your body well and get a lot of rest and nutrition in.

Yeah I get what you are saying. I actually tend to train grippers this way and get pretty good results. My post was a bit sarcastic, although I do think some routines that look like overtraining at frist glance(smolov, sheiko) actually yield great gains. However saying "I'm going to do heavy deadlifts for 4 days in a row" is not the best way to go about it.

[randall_truscot]

kaz benched 2 days a week, and he benched like a bodybuilders. lots of 10 and 15rep sets.

[John Prophet]

yeah...when you added it up it was insane volume

he'd do his normal bench work, which was itself pretty high vol and intense......then he'd do 3x10 of both wide grip and narrow grip benches, then 3x10 dumbells, lol....then onto shoulders etc

[wilwn]

do you guys think kaz would have hit better numbers if he had trained closer to modern powerlifting programs?

[randall_truscot]

do you guys think kaz would have hit better numbers if he had trained closer to modern powerlifting programs?

he trained to what worked best to him. so I think no.

[BPP]

if that took 4.5 hours, his rest periods had to be incredibly long...

[ChristianBBer]

This guy clearly doesnt know what he is doing. When I was younger I went from 275lb deadlift to 405lb in 5 months. Going once a week. He is gonne overtain his back. Do you have a pic of what he looks like?

Its simple science, the amount of muscle tear he puts on his back doing deadlifts routinly must be devastating, and without the proper rest (unless he sleeps 15 hours a day) is just ridicoulous. . NOT TOO MENTION how taxing deadlifts are to your CNS. Looks like a road down to over training. This isnt his routine typically is it ?

[John Prophet]

I think it is....but he does some weird variation like training only deads for a week and then not again for a while or something like that

[Berserker-Power]

I can see why you used the word insane john :P

[John Prophet]

that was Saturdays workout

here is Sundays

Trained 3.5 hrs today.

Ex1,mini band quadrupled,singles to 342.deadlift

Ex2,dead on1.5inch box,no bands to 405,single.

EX3,stiff deads,,150lb chains to 290,,upper glutes overload.singles.

EX4 front sq,5 reps top set 250,single at 290.
Key to this ex,push bar into neck,better upper back leverage.
Cant breathe, thought my head would explode.
Will continue pushing bar into neck,,whatever it takes to addd wt to bar.

ex5,hi box sq,dead stance to370 single,,great hip flexor overload.

During week,will do 5x5 sumo,, stiff,,rack deads.