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12-12-2018, 02:43 PM #1
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"7 Years of BJJ and I Got Smashed by a D3 Wrestler on his 1st Week"
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12-12-2018, 03:28 PM #2
D3 wrestlers have 8+ years of grappling.
D3 wrestlers train to compete and win.
D3 wrestling practice is 100 times harder than BJJ practice.
/threadThe training is nothing, the will is everything. The will to act.
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12-12-2018, 04:32 PM #3
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12-12-2018, 06:22 PM #4
Jiu Jitsu is a great way to grapple but far from the only way. As others have stated a former collegiate wrestler has a decade of grappling experience. Some of them will even beat blacks belts (in mma).
It also depends on how good your bottom game is. Good guards tend to be a rarity these days. Without a good guard you’re going to have a hard time beating someone who’s spent their entire time training to *not* be on their back
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12-12-2018, 06:23 PM #5
Catch wrestling
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12-12-2018, 07:18 PM #6
7 years of bjj and you cant submit someone that has no idea how to defend submissions?
seems legit
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12-12-2018, 07:49 PM #7
This. A few come to my gyms open mat. They know submissions, they know submission defense and they know how to move. Put them on their back and they are completely lost. Grappling is grappling at the end of the day. The only “bjj competition” is IBJJF. Everything else is grappling competitions. But for the most part only bjj guys show up
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12-12-2018, 08:23 PM #8
Wrestling is the base of catch (obviously) and if a guy can't get up off his back, then he is missing then he is missing the biggest peice of what catch wrestling is. In all likelihood he is being taught by fraudsters.
OLD MOVIE CREW
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12-12-2018, 08:29 PM #9
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12-12-2018, 08:34 PM #10
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12-12-2018, 08:42 PM #11
For the most part your right. But the old man who comes with them has been doing wrestling/catch for 20 years and has the scariest wizzer I’ve ever experienced. And he is wearing sweatpants
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12-12-2018, 08:53 PM #12
What happens is wrestlers think they can just take their wrestling and dump submissions on it...Thats not what catch wrestling is.
Catch wrestling is more cerebral than its given credit for. There are many subtleties that straight wrestling has long since forgotten about especially in regards to getting up safely, and avoiding submissions in transition.OLD MOVIE CREW
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12-12-2018, 08:55 PM #13
because bjj guys hate it but its the truth
biggest thing in grappling is strength and athleticism
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12-12-2018, 08:59 PM #14
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12-12-2018, 09:18 PM #15
D3 wrestlers are still way more trained than regular people and way stronger. But in the end doing them both is the best
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12-12-2018, 09:25 PM #16
I saw that vid before but i couldnt get past 20 seconds cuz of those damn teeth man.
But yeah its not just wrestlers, its anyone who is stronger than someone.
If they are serious about their craft, they would try to get as strong as humanly possible for their weight class first, if they are below the limit then they are still noobs. Dosnt matter how long you got knowledge.
I went into MMA classes and i was actually scared i would hurt the guys because i was so much stronger. kept accidentally bumping their nose and lip and would instantly bleed and stuff. None of their moves worked because they could not move my hands or body, even before i knew the moves... etc...
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12-13-2018, 12:03 AM #17
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12-13-2018, 12:05 AM #18
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12-13-2018, 03:07 AM #19
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12-13-2018, 05:29 AM #20
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"I never thought that some beginner with no experience could come in and beat me on the mat......"
"No experience"..... and dude's a D3 wrestler?
Son.... BJJ ain't the only game in town.
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12-13-2018, 06:08 AM #21
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I think more people who get into wrestling are in it for more than just doing it casually
conversely, there's a lot of BJJ ****s running around and it seems everybody and their mom is doing it.
just overall wrestling/grappling in general is probably the most important skill set you can have as an MMA fighter. Or at the very least the ability to stuff takedowns while having vastly superior striking.
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12-13-2018, 09:17 AM #22
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12-13-2018, 09:19 AM #23
It doesn't always workout that way either: Brock Lesnar the wrestler/grappler vs. Overeem for example even though Big O cheated. **** you Reem. but you are a striker who beat the best HW wrestler in UFC.
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12-13-2018, 09:35 AM #24
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12-13-2018, 10:17 AM #25
Put that wrestler up against D3 Wing Chun expert and see what happens
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12-13-2018, 11:38 AM #26
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12-13-2018, 01:09 PM #27
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12-13-2018, 02:17 PM #28
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12-13-2018, 02:24 PM #29
It's all about the person, the individual
Everyone knows a guy that trains some martial art, but still sucks at fighting. A lot of those youtube guys, you see them talking and they're really into a martial art... but you just know they're all theory and reality would smack them so hard they'd consider their entire world view
Everyone knows a guy that doesn't train martial arts at all, but would still rek the fuk out of most boyo's that train martials arts regularlyFak U say? Cheeky kent ya, i'll fakin fak ya, ya lil sloot
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