MAN Body Octane and Orotine Training Log by RB12

[RB12]

PURPOSE AND GOALS:
I am keeping this log to test Body Octane and Orotine from MAN while on a recomp and trying to get strength back up. Thanks to DWM230000 for the opportunity.


MAN Body Octane:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/man/body.html
-- Contains scientifically proven ingredients and doses. One look at the label tells you all, High-Voltage BODYOCTANE™ contains no gimmicky proprietary blend and works big-time!
-- Improves muscular fire power and endurance by boosting muscle carnosine concentrations and aerobic ATP production.
-- Regulates nitric oxide and boosts plasma arginine better than arginine supplements.
-- Speeds recuperation from athletic performance.
-- Removes performance and health hindering endotoxins such as lactic acid and ammonia from the body.
-- Increases oxygen & blood flow to exercising muscles.
-- Ideal for fat loss and muscle gains.


MAN Orotine:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/man/orotine.html
-- Contains 2 scientifically proven performance enhancing ingredients in one compound; Creatine and Orotic Acid!
-- Higher energy complex providing greater endurance and contractile force.
-- Contains Patented CreaTate™ (Tricreatine Orotate )
-- Boosts muscle phosphocreatine more effectively by providing creatine as well as Orotic Acid which increases muscle Uridine levels. Elevation of intramuscular Uridine levels increase muscle phosphocreatine and creatine levels 38% and 3%, respectively.
-- The only form of creatine that can boost muscle carnosine concentrations.
-- Great for sprinting.


STATS:
Age: 27
Height: 6’2”
Lifting for ~9 years and always been a distance athlete
Weights: 206


DIET:
6 meals per day; cals between 2600-3000 (maintenance for me is around 3300) and macro breakdown is 37/40/23 carbs/protein/fat. Generally I focus on whole foods, but also use shakes first thing in the morning, pre and post workout


WORKOUT*:
Working on trying to get my strength up, but I still really enjoy cardio, so I try to strike a balance. I am doing this a modified version of the Scivation training programs:
Sunday: Off
Monday: bike; back
Tuesday: run; chest/shoulders
Wednesday: martial arts
Thursday: bike; legs (http://www.strengthandscience.com/ju...icle5_july.htm)
Friday: run; bis/tris/lats
Saturday: martial arts

* If you want any additional details on diet and lifting breakdowns, please let me know


DOSING SCHEDULE
I will be taking 2 scoops of BO on lifting days (first thing in the morning and 30 min pre training) and one scoop on the other days. I will be taking Orotine 1 teaspoon first thing in the morning and one 30 minutes pre training.


OTHER SUPPS:
I will also be taking a multi, fish oil, whey, and leucine.


Any comments and suggestions are definitely encouraged along the way. This log will be mirrored on the MAN site at: http://manupdb.com/viewtopic.php?t=542

[NATHAN518]

nice setup RB...good luck, I will be starting the same stack monday

[RB12]

nice setup RB...good luck, I will be starting the same stack monday

damn you are quick on the post Thanks man, I will be watching for yours too.

[RB12]

Awesome RB..good luck!!

thanks ash

[TE]

Good luck RB!

subscribes**

[RB12]

Good luck RB!

subscribes**

thank TE, i appreciate it.

[RB12]

Cardio: 7 mile ride, no time, post lifting, damn my legs were hit by now, but the ride was just fine beside that

Weights: Killer leg day today, left the gym swimming in my shirt, I was dripping all over the place. went really deep on my squats... really felt it in the gluts today.

Notes: mixed i tsp orotine with 1 scoop of BO in about 12 oz of water 30 min pre workout and had no problem dissolving everything... just a few shakes and everything seemed full dissolved

[RB12]

Forgot to post these starting pics up:

[dan7681]

Good luck RB

*subscribes* (should be a great log)

[RB12]

Cardio: 45 minutes of kung fu today, energy was pretty good and sweating was moderate

Weights: Off

Notes: doms were not too bad from yesterdays leg workout, at least not bad enough to stop me from getting good speed and depth on my forms. I had to change up my workout a little today bc of apointments... I will do arms/running tomorrow in substitute for martial arts done today

[RB12]

Good luck RB

*subscribes* (should be a great log)

thanks dan

[RB12]

Cardio: 3 mile run in 19:17 (6:23 miles). Run went fairlt well, my gluts are still sore, but not too bad to push through the run, just a nagging issue

Weights: fantastic bi/tri workout today. I did 6x6 on all lifts with moderate weight and was able to make it through all 6 lifts no problem.

Notes: I forgot how good Body Octane is... it definitely ranks up there with my all time favorite supps for taste, I wish I could drink it all day

Oh yeah... GO BLUE

[dwm230000]

*subscribed*

Good luck RB! And thanks for posting this over at the MAN forum too

[RB12]

*subscribed*

Good luck RB! And thanks for posting this over at the MAN forum too

my pleasure and thanks for following

[RB12]

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[RB12]

Cardio: 7 mile bike ride in 21:07 (3:01 miles). Not too slow for a post lifting ride. No real lactic acid buildup even in the few sprints I did to catch up to retard drivers who feel it is necessary to honk at me because they cannot be troubled to swerve their huge asses around me on a low traffic road

Weights: back and traps today, went pretty well, pulled 3x325 on deads. Strength was pretty good trhoughout the lifting. The racks were all occupied, so I did shrugs with 150lbs dbs... forgot how ridivulous that looked

Notes: good vasularity today, especially in my froearms. good endurance all around

[RB12]

Cardio: 3 mile run in 18:55 (6:18 miles)... not too bad being as that this was post lift in the rain. Legs felt pretty good the whole time, although I had to take an extra break under a bridge to wipe some of the water out of my face

Weights: chest and shoulders today and strength was pretty good. I benched 3 reps at 265 today and was still able to crank out 5 db inclines at 80lbs and maintain the rest of my smaller weight reps

Notes: as I said, strength was good today. my lower back was a little sore from deads yesterday, but nothing horrible. I did have one of the powerlifters complement my deads from yesterday (mostly because outside of the powerlifters, I am one of the few people to dead lift at the gym, but hell I will take what I can get)

[NATHAN518]

NICE run times RB...i am afraid to time my runs for the first few weeks...its been about 3 weeks since i have run at all.

[RB12]

NICE run times RB...i am afraid to time my runs for the first few weeks...its been about 3 weeks since i have run at all.

i know how that goes allt oo well, it even happens to me when I come off wither treadmill taining and go to the street... it is such a defeated feeling

[RB12]

Cardio: hour of martial arts; felt no real lactic acid build up or soreness in my legs during any of my forms. It was cooler outside today, but I was still sweating my butt off.

Weights: Off

Notes: I had a little soreness in my lower back, but not from deads, but rather from where I jerked a dumbbell yesterday when racking up on db shoulder press :x Oh well, cant win them all i guess. anyway, it did not really hold me up too much, hopefully it will be all taken care of by tomorrow

[RB12]

Cardio: 7 mile bike ride, no time. the ride was going fine until I blew a tube in a construction zone So I was pretty pissed, but oh well. So not too much to report here.

Weights: did legs today and man did I sweat my ass off. For me, I do more and endurance day, but I did increase weight by about 10 lbs on each set, which was a nice bonus.

Notes: I did not feel as tired today throughout my lifting. Usually I can barely make through the workout, but today I was able to kill all my reps and do it at an increased weight

[RB12]

Cardio: 3 mile run in 19:06 (6:21 miles). Had to pace down a little today because I ran with a slower runner, but was still able to eek out a descent time. My left calve was a little tight, especially starting out, but it seemed to loosen up as the run went on.

Weights: bis/tris today and again, as yesterday, my strength was up. This workout is a high volume day again, so in the last 3 sets of my six total sets for each lift, I added 10 lbs, which was a nice bonus.

Notes: Strength seems to be raising and I had no problem with anaerobic endurance the past two days with these high volume lifitng sets.

[RB12]

Cardio: one hour and fifteen minutes of martial arts. Pulled out the real sword and sabre today which weigh a hell of a lot mroe than the practice weapons. My arms held up just fine though, which is a very welcome surprise. Sweating was extremely high, I had to throw on a bandana to keep the sweat out of my face.

Weights: Off

Notes: As an interestingg observation, as hard as I was pushing myself, I still felt like I could keep going. Even in the end, I did not feel the complete exhaustion I ussually feel after a workout like thise.

Also, on dosing, for this log, I am doing two doses of orotine on all days and two scoops of BO on lifting days, but only one scoop on martial arts days and off days. I am varying the one scoop between first thing in the morning and 30 min. pre-workout. I will try and remember to note how I take it.

Today I took the scoop 30 min. preworkout and found this to be quite effective.

[TE]

Have you noticed any weight gain? I'm sure mine is mostly water weight, but I'm up about 7 lbs in the past 2 1/2 weeks.

[RB12]

Have you noticed any weight gain? I'm sure mine is mostly water weight, but I'm up about 7 lbs in the past 2 1/2 weeks.

as of last week, i was still steady at 206, however, i am eating to maintain or cut that weight. good work on the gains though

[RB12]

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[RB12]

Cardio: 3 mile run in 18:56 (6:19 miles). It was raining out today, so I had to rearrange the bike for tomorrow. Damn good run, aerobic endurance was great, I did not feel exhausted at all

Weights: back/traps today and strength was great. I was kind of tired going to the gym and thought that this would be reflected in my sets, but not the case at all, i was able to really crank on the weights today. This is a heavy day today and I was able to do it justice:
deads: 3x345
bent rows: 5x155
standing rows: 4x135
bb shrugs: 4x365

Notes: Really great workout today, it seemed no matter how hard I was pushing myself, my body could keep going. I managed to bruise the joint on my right index finger (I think I over extended it when I was doing sword/sabre on saturday). So I had to rely a litle more on wrist straps today, but this only seemed to slow my on pull ups, nowhere else.

[RB12]

Cardio: 9 mile bike ride. On my way out, I felt a little bit of lactic acid build up in my legs and I could not figure out why (granted the route out is more up hill and there was a stiff wind I was riding into). But when I finished, I realized why, I hit 9 miles in 23:49 (2:38 miles), which is actually one of my faster time ever

Weights: Chest/shoulders today. Strength was pretty good and my index finger is feeling better. I could not do as many push ups (I do finger tip push ups) but otherwise, it did not effect me that much at all:
bench: 3x265
incline db: 4x85
db press: 5x60

Notes: I am very impressed with that biking time, especially after lifting. Strength has been very good on my heavy days and even being somehwat tired when getting to the gym due to work, I am still able to really do a number on the iron

Stats: 207lbs today, this is up a pound, which I have to assume comes from some water retention being back on creatine. I actually feel as though the mirror is telling a leaner story

[NATHAN518]

nice RB!!!

seems like i have been looking leaner too...

[TE]

nice RB!!!

seems like i have been looking leaner too...

I look leaner in the morning time, but no so much in the eves. But that is expected & usual for me.