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    Originally Posted by tonyparker69 View Post
    1. that's 2002

    2. you know how i know you didn't watch that series?


    OP's years are season start years, not championship years


    I was 9 when I watched the series and grew up near sac so maybe a little biased, but that doesn't take away from the fact that the kobe/shaq team should have lost that year.
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    Originally Posted by 20Mavs11 View Post
    Lol at the one dude who said Warriors. Jordan would lock down anyone on that team let alone Pippen and Rodman. 2001 have a good shot though, but I got the bulls. They had more clutch players.

    Would love to see Rodman vs Shaq.
    https://www.basketball-reference.com...-vs-bulls.html



    And from '93, just for fun. "Rodman puts clamps on Shaq"

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    I never saw the bulls... but the 01 lakers and 16 warriors were terrific... Its a different played game now.. I'd love to see jordan in this run and gun offense
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    Originally Posted by TommyRO View Post
    Lol you think that was Kobe's Prime?
    You could definitely argue that 2003 was Kobe's best all-around year. I personally think that.
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    to me, the best playoff teams of all time go:

    1: 17 warriors - honestly you can't match up against them. they would run prime shaq off the floor and simple play that ridiculous lineup with steph, klay, green, KD, your grandma
    2a/b: 01 lakers/95 bulls
    4: 13 heat - basically a better version of the 2016 cavs with more playmakers and more veterans

    i'm not going to comment on the lakers and celtics teams in the 80s. they have their place in history just like the celtics teams of the 60s but the sport was completely different back then. the 90s are at least somewhat comparable to now.
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    Originally Posted by TommyRO View Post
    Lol you think that was Kobe's Prime?
    kobe was absolutely in his prime in 2004... if you want to say his seasons where he was getting bounced in the first round/missing the playoffs were his prime he was the exact same player just without a team so he literally shot 10 more FGs per game...
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    Originally Posted by SpartacusNYC View Post
    That shaq has nothing on 01 shaq lmao
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    Anyone not answering GSW is dumb as fuk and I hate the warriors.
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    Originally Posted by wifestealer View Post
    kobe was absolutely in his prime in 2004... if you want to say his seasons where he was getting bounced in the first round/missing the playoffs were his prime he was the exact same player just without a team so he literally shot 10 more FGs per game...
    No he was dealing with the court case in 2004.
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    Originally Posted by JBhaverhill View Post
    Anyone not answering GSW is dumb as fuk and I hate the warriors.
    Warriors would get bodied by older teams that actually played defense. Those threes are a lot harder when a hand is in your face and when refs allow contact.

    That's why Reggie Miller is still the GOAT 3-point shooter. He did it when defense was allowed.
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    No he was dealing with the court case in 2004.
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    fkn lmao, wonder if kobe was aware of this tweet during that last year
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    fkn lmao, wonder if kobe was aware of this tweet during that last year
    Im sure somebody brought it to his attention.
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    Originally Posted by TommyRO View Post
    Jordan can't even D Kobe and goes same way. Jordan better frame and Kobe better moves. 2000-20001 shaq though you need Wilt lol



    I have Lakers too 01
    How does he have better moves than Jordan when he copied them from Jordan?

    Originally Posted by tonyparker69 View Post
    lol at anyone on those rosters guarding shaq
    I'm pretty sure that Rodman would get into Shaq's head and at least bother him enough to do some stupid chit but even without it, who cares if Shaq can do whatever he wants when nobody else can score cause Pippen/Jordan lock them down?

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    Warriors are being slept on imo.
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    Anyone not answering GSW is dumb as fuk and I hate the warriors.
    17 Warriors with Durant, maybe. 16? Not even a contest. Lakers sweep, Bulls win in 3
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    Originally Posted by tekkenbruh View Post
    How does he have better moves than Jordan when he copied them from Jordan?



    I'm pretty sure that Rodman would get into Shaq's head and at least bother him enough to do some stupid chit but even without it, who cares if Shaq can do whatever he wants when nobody else can score cause Pippen/Jordan lock them down?





    17 Warriors with Durant, maybe. 16? Not even a contest. Lakers sweep, Bulls win in 3
    Bulls in 4 you mean

    Kobe's footwork is God tier with kareemt or you think MJ has the same lol?
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    Originally Posted by TommyRO View Post
    Bulls in 4 you mean

    Kobe's footwork is God tier with kareemt or you think MJ has the same lol?
    No, I mean in 3.

    Brah, read my lips. Kobe took his moves from Jordan.
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    Originally Posted by tekkenbruh View Post
    No, I mean in 3.

    Brah, read my lips. Kobe took his moves from Jordan.
    He did then took Olajuwans moves, you can't even compare their footwork lmao
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    This argument with "how can he be better when he copied ..." is mind-boggling dumb. As if the game didn't evolve. As if Kobe didn't copy Jordan to shortcut his learning curve and then add on top of it. Kobe had Jordan-level footwork down and then refined it, just as players try to do with Kobe's footwork today and I am sure eventually someone will surpass him in that area as well.

    Kobe's footwork was always his most underrated asset and is second to none. The reason why people bring up Hakeem is because his impressive footwork is even more impressive because of his height/size.
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    That shaq has nothing on 01 shaq lmao
    Did I say it was prime Shaq?
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    Did I say it was prime Shaq?
    So you think rodman could strap 01 shaq? The years he cared before 05-06 lol
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    So you think rodman could strap 01 shaq? The years he cared before 05-06 lol
    Stop making assumptions off my posts and stop posting lol in all of yours.
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    Stop making assumptions off my posts and stop posting lol in all of yours.
    So what was the point of your post then?
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    Originally Posted by TommyRO View Post
    So what was the point of your post then?
    The man wanted to see some Shaq vs. Worm and that was really the most high-profile, closest to each individuals prime match-up that we have and gives us the best glimpse of what could have been. Rodman couldn't have locked up '96 Shaq, but he could play some really incredible defense on him and give him some problems.
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    Originally Posted by SpartacusNYC View Post
    The man wanted to see some Shaq vs. Worm and that was really the most high-profile, closest to each individuals prime match-up that we have and gives us the best glimpse of what could have been. Rodman couldn't have locked up '96 Shaq, but he could play some really incredible defense on him and give him some problems.
    Oh my bad had no clue, yea Rodman was a beast will rep on recharge.

    I still think Pre KD warriors even with 73 wins aren't close to the best team ever, agree?
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    Ya'll love to discredit the '16 warrior's just because they aren't an older team. If you think any of those teams you listed can keep up with all the 3's GSW would be draining, you're crazy. '01 lakers can score all the points they want in the paint with shaq, those 2 pts aren't going to amount up to enough.
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    Originally Posted by Critter5592 View Post
    Ya'll love to discredit the '16 warrior's just because they aren't an older team. If you think any of those teams you listed can keep up with all the 3's GSW would be draining, you're crazy. '01 lakers can score all the points they want in the paint with shaq, those 2 pts aren't going to amount up to enough.
    Do you realize how silly it is to compare the 01-Lakers with the 16-Warriors or any other team that plays in different eras?

    What people do is:
    1. How did Team A dominate their era and how much success did they have?
    2. How did Team B dominate their era and how much success did they have?
    3. Decide between the dominance and success within their respective era/leagues.

    In todays game no one would structure a Bulls team the way they did in 1995 for example, and no one would structure a Lakers team the way they did 20 years ago. You claim people are discrediting the 16-Warriors, yet you act as if the teams of the past should have anticipated the rise of the 3-ball and positionless basketball for some reason.

    Last year - and I don't care enough to find it - I posted the statistical comparison of all teams including the last playoffs and the 01-Lakers had the toughest overall road in correlation to dominance (W-L during playoffs). The numbers don't lie and the stats (like SRS) are relative to the current league strength.

    Edit: looked it up and forgot that there was one team with a higher SRS, Hakeems 95 Rockets



    Ignore the Kobe/Jordan/LBJ stuff, the thread last year had a bit of a different context.
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    The 17 Warriors would crush them all. Especially when you factor in their ability to injure the best players on the other team. Of course the 01 Lakers had that ability too, but no way the Bulls win with Pippen or Jordan injured. That's the secret to the Warriors and Lakers dynasties. They do some voodoo on their opponents.

    What's crazy is that Jerry West built both of those dynasties.
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    Originally Posted by lsiberian View Post
    What's crazy is that Jerry West built both of those dynasties.
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