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    People are buying out freezers where I live. Only one person has died - I originally thought it was two but it wasn't. The virus doesn't exist where I live and shop shelves are empty and we have to soon force 24/7 trading so people can buy basic products.

    My friends elderly neighbors still can't buy an inhaler. 1 person has only died from this virus. Can't buy an inhaler. Even I am looking out and checking out chemists to see if I can get one for her, but my rage levels go up. Just watch what happens if I catch someone with an arm full of inhalers.

    The government needs to set up a simple database for purchasers, temporary. Your ID and purchase is kept. If you go back and try buy 20, they'll go: "Sorry you bought plenty fuk off".

    Shameful human behavior, imagine if we had a real disaster; let's say no electricity and running water due to some atmospheric cataclysm for 2 weeks or no way of long-distance communication. I think nearly every first world country would crumble.

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    Originally Posted by EoR View Post
    People are buying out freezers where I live. Only one person has died - I originally thought it was two but it wasn't. The virus doesn't exist where I live and shop shelves are empty and we have to soon force 24/7 trading so people can buy basic products.

    My friends elderly neighbors still can't buy an inhaler. 1 person has only died from this virus. Can't buy an inhaler. Even I am looking out and checking out chemists to see if I can get one for her, but my rage levels go up. Just watch what happens if I catch someone with an arm full of inhalers.
    Yeah, some china brah was buying up all the thermometers in Costco, picture floating around of a completely loaded cart. Special place in hell.

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    Originally Posted by RubberBandMang View Post
    Yeah, some china brah was buying up all the thermometers in Costco, picture floating around of a completely loaded cart. Special place in hell.

    irresponsible of costco to allow this IMHO

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    Originally Posted by 2RDEYE View Post
    anyone else think the media saying "masks do nothing" is bull****. even if it's like a 10% chance or preventing or contracting the virus, everyone should still be using them. that would be a 10% decrease in number of people with the virus. there are so many variables that go with it like concentration of air particles and flow of the air, and the mask prevents what it can. i think people dont want to use them just because it's not socially normal to them. like mother****ing dickheads will not even use a mask when sick and just start coughing and sneezing droplets in public and concentration of bacteria in the air is probably higher and farther without a mask
    assuming it isnt airborne, they'll help prevent the spread much more so than protect you from catching it, unless someone sneezes into your mouth AFAIK
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    Originally Posted by wake_me View Post
    assuming it isnt airborne, they'll help prevent the spread much more so than protect you from catching it, unless someone sneezes into your mouth AFAIK
    i think it would protect as well. i mean not 100% protection but i think it would reduce the amount of air flow, and airborne particles you intake, like a filter, but for sure it's not a definite "won't protect you" there's no way. there's so many variables. it's like washing hands without soap for 2 minutes without drying, would take out 20% bacteria off your hands. washing hands without soap for 2 minutes and drying properly would take out 40% bacteria. and then washing hands with soap for 2 minutes and drying properly would take out 90% of bacteria.

    should be a normal thing at this time to use.

    got some news last night idk if it's recent info our health official in canada said someone with mild symptoms, after about 10 days, the virus is inactive, but still in the body, but essentially "dead."
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    NYC is the perfect breeding ground for bugs. Dense population all living on top of each other. Tons of international travelers coming in and out. I would be more shocked if it weren't ground zero.
    Yup . . . that's where the virus can realy go apechit and in a hurry.

    One of my good friends at work lives in NYC . . . right up the street from MSG. I was on a video conf with her yesterday and she took her laptop out on the balcony and panned the camera around. There were very few people and cars out--like eerily few. She said all the main traffic and crowd noise is gone and all she hears is the ambulances going all over the place.
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    White house press conference on. They are touting shutting down the borders with Canada and Mexico ,which both have lower case density. Not that it is a bad thing to do but who is getting protected from whom exactly?

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    Originally Posted by io31 View Post
    White house press conference on. They are touting shutting down the borders with Canada and Mexico ,which both have lower case density. Not that it is a bad thing to do but who is getting protected from whom exactly?
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    Please keep it on topic. Perhaps we need a different thread for economic aspects since this thread is getting way off topic and I'm pretty sure that wasn't the intent of Pogue
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    Originally Posted by wake_me View Post
    you're breaking even here
    breaking?

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    Originally Posted by io31 View Post
    breaking?
    closing southern border beneficial, northern border negligible...so maybe slightly better than breaking even
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    can we still go for a jog? no touching anything, just maybe crossing paths with another jogger/walker (bout 5 feet apart)

    is that risky?

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    US has more than 13,000 cases, California governor estimates 25.5 million residents will get VIRUS.

    7:05 pm: California estimates 25.5 million residents — 56% of the state — will get virus in next 8 weeks.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/19/coro...e-updates.html

    Damn this flu looks contigious af
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    Originally Posted by wake_me View Post
    closing southern border beneficial, northern border negligible...so maybe slightly better than breaking even
    I am not sure what is the benefit at this point other than getting people to interact less overall. The virus is in, I don't see the point in obsessing about illegal immigrants in this context. They moved on to talk about securing resources for the healthcare system, which is makes much more sense IMHO.

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    Originally Posted by 2RDEYE View Post
    anyone else think the media saying "masks do nothing" is bull****. even if it's like a 10% chance or preventing or contracting the virus, everyone should still be using them. that would be a 10% decrease in number of people with the virus. there are so many variables that go with it like concentration of air particles and flow of the air, and the mask prevents what it can. i think people dont want to use them just because it's not socially normal to them. like mother****ing dickheads will not even use a mask when sick and just start coughing and sneezing droplets in public and concentration of bacteria in the air is probably higher and farther without a mask

    Medical experts are saying that too, not just the media

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    Originally Posted by BigBallsMcgee View Post
    Medical experts are saying that too, not just the media
    Medical experts are saying masks are not a guarantee and you have to use them properly. They are useful, that's why the medical experts use them and tell healthcare professionals to use them

    Medical experts are not, as you imply, saying masks do nothing. They never have, if you actually read what they write.

    PLease go read the details of what verified 'medical experts' have published regarding mask use before speaking more on the topic.

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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Medical experts are saying masks are not a guarantee and you have to use them properly. They are useful, that's why the medical experts use them and tell healthcare professionals to use them

    Medical experts are not, as you imply, saying masks do nothing. They never have, if you actually read what they write.

    PLease go read the details of what verified 'medical experts' have published regarding mask use before speaking more on the topic.
    They have said the typical person won't use it right and thus its stupid to have them when medical workers need it.

    Which is also what the media has said.

    Also that its mainly effective time prevent spread of you are sick not to keep you from getting sick. Both media and medical people have said that

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    Originally Posted by BigBallsMcgee View Post
    They have said the typical person won't use it right and thus its stupid to have them when medical workers need it.

    Which is also what the media has said.

    Also that its mainly effective time prevent spread of you are sick not to keep you from getting sick. Both media and medical people have said that
    Lets not rehash the mask debate. These are the facts.

    Surgical MASKS have no seal and are good at preventing you from spreading your germs to others. They have a tangential benefit of stopping you from touching your mouth and stopping droplets (someone sneezing at you) landing on your mouth. This same effect can be achieved with a simple bandanna.

    RESPIRATORS are the NIOSH N95 rated masks, often with a valve that allows easy exhale. These often look like masks, but they require a proper seal on the face, and if they are sealed, they are effective at filtering out airborne virus particles. They need to be complimented with proper eye protection as well to be effective. If they have an exhale valve, they do nothing to stop your aerosol and some droplets from exiting your mask.

    Originally Posted by SydneyJunkie View Post
    can we still go for a jog? no touching anything, just maybe crossing paths with another jogger/walker (bout 5 feet apart)

    is that risky?
    My girlfriend and I have still been doing jogs and walks. Just like you said, extreme care to maintain a good 20 ft from anyone around us. I'd be lying if I said I don't hold my breath and then exhale when I'm near them though.

    Edit: Not exhale at them, just a stupid "positive pressure don't inhale" mentality.
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    Originally Posted by GlennQuagmire View Post
    US has more than 13,000 cases, California governor estimates 25.5 million residents will get VIRUS.

    7:05 pm: California estimates 25.5 million residents — 56% of the state — will get virus in next 8 weeks.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/19/coro...e-updates.html

    Damn this flu looks contigious af
    25.5m * 0.2%= 51k deaths within the age group of 20 to 30 ....start peppering healthy brahs
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    Originally Posted by TrinnieBuu View Post
    You do build some short term immunity to the flu. Antibodies don’t just disappear once the virus is gone. Most people who get the flu won’t get it again for another 5-6 years even without vaccination. But so far we don’t know if presence of antibodies in people extend months after infection is cleared. Won’t get that data until at least august when we can test the first wave of COVID patients.

    hence me saying, you hol dimmunity for two years"dont you read?"

    Originally Posted by leoslayer1 View Post
    There are disaster plans out there.

    The country won't collapse. We will get thru this. It might suck financially for a bit.

    We just need to pull together.


    I'm predicting rent and mortgage will get postponed if it gets bad enough.

    We have low interest small businesses loans in nc.

    We have eased unemployment requirements in NC.
    depending on the meaning of collapsing.......if you mean collapse resident evil style.... no ... this wont happen......... 2008 economical bubble ........ yes , thats a collapse... for what we are seeing the collapse will be twice or trice of the 2008 one... if not more..


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    can't remember seeing the stars shine so brightly in a long time, all it took is 5 days of quarantine for the sky to clear up

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    Originally Posted by dondadas View Post
    can't remember seeing the stars shine so brightly in a long time, all it took is 5 days of quarantine for the sky to clear up
    Mother nature cleaning house. WE are the virus.

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    Originally Posted by dondadas View Post
    can't remember seeing the stars shine so brightly in a long time, all it took is 5 days of quarantine for the sky to clear up
    Where are you that you've had 5 days of quarantine all around?

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    Originally Posted by MEDITATE View Post
    hence me saying, you hol dimmunity for two years"dont you read?"



    depending on the meaning of collapsing.......if you mean collapse resident evil style.... no ... this wont happen......... 2008 economical bubble ........ yes , thats a collapse... for what we are seeing the collapse will be twice or trice of the 2008 one... if not more..


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    Originally Posted by 2RDEYE View Post
    i think it would protect as well. i mean not 100% protection but i think it would reduce the amount of air flow, and airborne particles you intake, like a filter, but for sure it's not a definite "won't protect you" there's no way. there's so many variables. it's like washing hands without soap for 2 minutes without drying, would take out 20% bacteria off your hands. washing hands without soap for 2 minutes and drying properly would take out 40% bacteria. and then washing hands with soap for 2 minutes and drying properly would take out 90% of bacteria.

    should be a normal thing at this time to use.

    got some news last night idk if it's recent info our health official in canada said someone with mild symptoms, after about 10 days, the virus is inactive, but still in the body, but essentially "dead."
    i mean, it's socially acceptable in korea to wear a mask to the point where you get shamed if you don't.

    regardless though, the US doesn't have enough masks so they should really be saving it for those that need them (aka healthcare workers)

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    Originally Posted by MEDITATE View Post
    25.5m * 0.2%= 51k deaths within the age group of 20 to 30 ....start peppering healthy brahs
    I really dont understand how are there still so many people minimizing this Pandemic srs
    Maybe its just a way to cope
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    Originally Posted by BigBallsMcgee View Post
    Medical experts are saying that too, not just the media
    seems to be a western thing, asian governments are handing them out and asia is handling the virus better than us being so close to the origin of it

    https://www.nippon.com/en/news/yjj20...ion-masks.html

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...ibute-12369716

    https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20200305002300315

    korea, singapore, and japan

    i think why medical experts have to say it on the media is because there will most definitely be a shortage

    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Medical experts are saying masks are not a guarantee and you have to use them properly. They are useful, that's why the medical experts use them and tell healthcare professionals to use them

    Medical experts are not, as you imply, saying masks do nothing. They never have, if you actually read what they write.

    PLease go read the details of what verified 'medical experts' have published regarding mask use before speaking more on the topic.
    this

    you have medical professionals working with the public, being around sick people, using PPE, most only using surgical masks, but apparently the general public "it's not effective." problem is the supply
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    Since it's relevant to the use of masks . . . if you happen to have them. This is specifically for the 3M N95 8511 model. But you'll see why not knowing how to wear one could be problematic in getting a proper seal, especially for the top portion near/around the nose.

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