★Early bird fantasy football discussion 2019★

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

Carr has a very nice match up. Should be a shoot out with KC

That's true. I would kind of like to get someone who I can comfortable start weekly though. I don't trust Carr long term, and don't want to stream in the event Mariota or Allen get hot and someone grabs them.

[TyGuy505]

Okay I'm done with Cam. He isn't right. It's clear his ankle is still bothering him. It's killed me 2 weeks in a row in this league. If he is just going to stand in the pocket he's just about worthless as a fantasy starter.

Josh Allen is available and he's my target. FA at this time. I'd rather pick him up now instead of waiting for him to go off on the Giants and then having to fight FAAB for him or potentially waste more than I need for him cause nobody else bids for him.

Drop - Singletary, M. Sanders, Sutton, Hockenson (Have Waller), McLaurin, T. Hill (No IR spot)

Current Starters - 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Flex, 1DST

Cam
Fournette, Jones
Julio, Boyd, D Jax
Waller
Jacobs
Pats

Being that it's 3 WR I'm thinking of dropping Mile Sanders tomorrow AM. Having no IR spot is tough with only 6 bench spots. Then trying to possibly claim him back after Cam is droppable. Thoughts? Always want the RB depth and Singletary and Sanders are potential mid season starters, but I have no WR depth if I drop Sutton or McLaurin and don't win one back. I just want to make sure I get Allen. I think at this point, given his rushing ability his floor is better than Cam's and his ceiling is certainly higher.

I’d drop Hockenson or Sanders. Wouldn’t bother holding 2 TEs and Singletary > Sanders this year imo

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

That's fine but Cam was absolutely brutal last night. So many passes that were either sailing or worm burners. I'm really concerned now.

He is a shell of his former self. Beyond physically, I don't think mentally he's strong enough to bounce back from this. Wouldn't be surprised if he's a backup in 2 years.

[sfgiants13]

Would you rather have Thompson or AP with Guice out? I got Thompson on waivers but ended up dropping AP before the Guice injury. Standard PPR league. Looks like AP gets the start but won’t be in on passing downs. And with how awful they usually are on offense I expect them to be passing a lot.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

Would you rather have Thompson or AP with Guice out? I got Thompson on waivers but ended up dropping AP before the Guice injury. Standard PPR league. Looks like AP gets the start but won’t be in on passing downs. And with how awful they usually are on offense I expect them to be passing a lot.

I like Thompson in PPR. They will be playing catch up a lot like you said. Skin's run blocking did not look very good week 1.

[bullybreed]

Any thoughts of trading one of your TEs to a desperate team for a decent QB? I'm in your boat too....Cam is useless unless he's running. My waiver wire is barren though.


I have available :

Derek Carr
Josh Allen
Mariota
Stafford

I'm considering Mariota, he looked pretty good week 1.

I'm with Jugg's would try to figure out a trade instead of just dropping one of your players. Of your options Sanders is who I would drop too but I wouldn't want to drop him.

However maybe you could package Sanders and Cam for someone's backup QB? Or a TE and Cam as suggested. I'd see who in your league has 2 QB's and try to figure out their weakness and offer them a trade.

I’d drop Hockenson or Sanders. Wouldn’t bother holding 2 TEs and Singletary > Sanders this year imo

There is a guy that has Lamar Jackson and Dak he's holding. Dak and Lamar have the same bye, so it really does him no good outside of trade bait. This is a 6pt passing TD league too, so QBs are going to be overblown and he's probably going to try to shaft me for Dak.

Practically everyone in this league is holding 2 QBs. They all drafted 2. Available in FA is Allen, Garopollo, Cousins, Dalton, Brissett, Carr, Stafford, and Mariota. I've sent the guy with Dak a message just to gauge interest, but I still think I want to target Allen. He could be all over and throw a bunch of picks but at least he has rushing upside which seems to be completely gone with Cam.

I'm not going to flat out drop Hockenson. If him and Waller blow up this week I'd like to use one of them as trade bait myself for something. Plus I spent a decent amount of FAAB on Hock. I hate just flat out dropping players but QB is going to be a major issue and it's now fuked me 2 weeks in a row. Cam has a combined 17.5 pts in 2 games.

[Jayarbie]

He is a shell of his former self. Beyond physically, I don't think mentally he's strong enough to bounce back from this. Wouldn't be surprised if he's a backup in 2 years.

LMAO.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

LMAO.

****in LOL. on spread

[sandcar3]

There is a guy that has Lamar Jackson and Dak he's holding. Dak and Lamar have the same bye, so it really does him no good outside of trade bait. This is a 6pt passing TD league too, so QBs are going to be overblown and he's probably going to try to shaft me for Dak.

Practically everyone in this league is holding 2 QBs. They all drafted 2. Available in FA is Allen, Garopollo, Cousins, Dalton, Brissett, Carr, Stafford, and Mariota. I've sent the guy with Dak a message just to gauge interest, but I still think I want to target Allen. He could be all over and throw a bunch of picks but at least he has rushing upside which seems to be completely gone with Cam.

I'm not going to flat out drop Hockenson. If him and Waller blow up this week I'd like to use one of them as trade bait myself for something. Plus I spent a decent amount of FAAB on Hock. I hate just flat out dropping players but QB is going to be a major issue and it's now fuked me 2 weeks in a row. Cam has a combined 17.5 pts in 2 games.

Post up your team and his team and I'll give you my opinion on a possible trade. I do think you've found the right guy to trade with though, and I would be targeting Dak from him as well.

[bullybreed]

Post up your team and his team and I'll give you my opinion on a possible trade. I do think you've found the right guy to trade with though, and I would be targeting Dak from him as well.

My Team -

Cam
Fournette, Jones, Jacobs, Singletary, M. Sanders
Julio, Hill, D Jax, Sutton, McLaurin
Waller, Hockenson

His Team -

L. Jax, Dak
Kamara, Bell, Ingram
Cooks, Godwin, Watkins, M. Williams, MVS, AJ Brown, Fuller
Ertz, Reed

FYI he's responded and has inquired about Hockenson.

[sandcar3]

My Team -

Cam
Fournette, Jones, Jacobs, Singletary, M. Sanders
Julio, Hill, D Jax, Sutton, McLaurin
Waller, Hockenson

His Team -

L. Jax, Dak
Kamara, Bell, Ingram
Cooks, Godwin, Watkins, M. Williams, MVS, AJ Brown, Fuller
Ertz, Reed

Dang, nothing obvious. He has 2 weaknesses, RB depth, and no WR1. Knowing that I'd probably offer Cam and Sanders (or even Singletary) for Dak (make sure you point out that Dak and Lamar have the same bye in case he is unaware). Maybe he would want Hill since he isn't doing you any good right now. Hill and Cam for Dak whichever of his WR's you like might also work.

[SDOptimist]

Drop Vance for Adrian Peterson?

[bullybreed]

Dang, nothing obvious. He has 2 weaknesses, RB depth, and no WR1. Knowing that I'd probably offer Cam and Sanders for Dak (make sure you point out that Dak and Lamar have the same bye in case he is unaware). Maybe he would want Hill since he isn't doing you any good right now. Hill and Cam for Dak whichever of his WR's you like might also work.

Meh...I edited but you must have already been in the middle of your response. I'd rather just trade Hock straight up for Dak and not have to give up a RB along with it or Hill especially. Also, he's going to view Godwin as his WR1. The guy is on pace for those type of numbers anyway.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

Meh...I edited but you must have already been in the middle of your response. I'd rather just trade Hock straight up for Dak and not have to give up a RB along with it or Hill especially. Also, he's going to view Godwin as his WR1. The guy is on pace for those type of numbers anyway.

I'd do Hock for Dak straight up since you have Waller. Dak is going to have a very good year this year I feel. I hate that I passed on him in drafts.

[bullybreed]

I'd do Hock for Dak straight up since you have Waller. Dak is going to have a very good year this year I feel. I hate that I passed on him in drafts.

Yeah I overlooked him too. I mean it was against the Giants, but looks like their new play caller wants him to throw more. Looking for that contract. He has the line and the running game to be able to throw efficiently. He does have rushing upside too.

[sandcar3]

Meh...I edited but you must have already been in the middle of your response. I'd rather just trade Hock straight up for Dak and not have to give up a RB along with it or Hill especially. Also, he's going to view Godwin as his WR1. The guy is on pace for those type of numbers anyway.

I'd do Hock for Dak straight up since you have Waller. Dak is going to have a very good year this year I feel. I hate that I passed on him in drafts.

Yeah I overlooked him too. I mean it was against the Giants, but looks like their new play caller wants him to throw more. Looking for that contract. He has the line and the running game to be able to throw efficiently.

I like this idea, I just don't think he would go for Hock since he already has Ertz.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

Yeah I overlooked him too. I mean it was against the Giants, but looks like their new play caller wants him to throw more. Looking for that contract. He has the line and the running game to be able to throw efficiently.

I'm a big Cowboys fan. I watched the game and the little things are what I really took notice of. His confidence appears to be much higher, he isn't holding on to the ball to long, which he was notorious for, no antsy feet in the pocket, and the touch on his deep balls is night and day different. He really got coached up this offseason, and like you said he has a lot of factors in his favor to have a career year.

[bullybreed]

I like this idea, I just don't think he would go for Hock since he already has Ertz.

I have been texting him and he came straight out and asked about Hock. I didn't offer. People in this league like to hold 2 QBs and 2 TEs. He doesn't want Reed I'm guessing. Or he may have another trade target in mind, like the person who has OJ Howard. Trade Hock after for some WR or something. I knew Hock would be a huge target in waivers so I outbid everyone to use as trade bait because I'm not a fan of holding 2 TE either. This may be my opportunity to get rid of him fast for a big upgrade at another position right now.

[Murph0408]

My Team -

Cam
Fournette, Jones, Jacobs, Singletary, M. Sanders
Julio, Hill, D Jax, Sutton, McLaurin
Waller, Hockenson

His Team -

L. Jax, Dak
Kamara, Bell, Ingram
Cooks, Godwin, Watkins, M. Williams, MVS, AJ Brown, Fuller
Ertz, Reed

FYI he's responded and has inquired about Hockenson.

let mclaurin or sutton have another nice game and trade one of them. backup QBs should not be too valuable on the trade market. yes Dak had the game of his life last week but there's just too many options at the position to trade an real significant players.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

let mclaurin or sutton have another nice game and trade one of them. backup QBs should not be too valuable on the trade market. yes Dak had the game of his life last week but there's just too many options at the position to trade an real significant players.

His league is 6pt TDs, that definitely makes a QB more valuable.

[bullybreed]

let mclaurin or sutton have another nice game and trade one of them. backup QBs should not be too valuable on the trade market. yes Dak had the game of his life last week but there's just too many options at the position to trade an real significant players.

There isn't too many options though, considering everyone is holding 2. That's 18 QBs in this league gone outside of Cam that I already have. As I said in an earlier post the only thing on waivers is Allen, Cousins, Garoppolo, Dalton, Brissett, Carr, Mariota, and Stafford. At this point everyone in the league has an advantage over me since Cam can't score a single freaking TD. Then on top of that he's not running either so his floor is next to nothing.

[Tyler2106]

Start AB with confidence this week boyos. NFL not putting him on the exempt list...at least this week.

For those saying I looked stupid yesterday mentioning how AB might not be placed on the Commissioner's Exempt List due to this being a civil lawsuit, not criminal:

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At this point, NFL will not place Antonio Brown on commissioner exempt list, as there is no criminal investigation, making him eligible to play Sunday vs. Miami, per sources. NFL has opened its investigation, which will include interviews with Antonio Brown and his accuser.

[Jayarbie]

Start AB with confidence this week boyos. NFL not putting him on the exempt list...at least this week.

For those saying I looked stupid yesterday mentioning how AB might not be placed on the Commissioner's Exempt List due to this being a civil lawsuit, not criminal:

Well, you are still stupid because the debate was about whether he could use the list without criminal charges, and clearly he could have. There is still no requirement that there be criminal charges to use the list, as evidenced by the very fact that he was even able to consider it without charges against AB regardless of whether he chose to use it or not in the end.

Just Goodell doing his job as Kraft's personal fixer...

[Tyler2106]

Well, you are still stupid because the debate was about whether he could use the list without criminal charges, and clearly he could have. There is still no requirement that there be criminal charges to use the list, as evidenced by the very fact that he was even able to consider it without charges against AB regardless of whether he chose to use it or not in the end.

Just Goodell doing his job as Kraft's personal fixer...

Well, be sure to comment on Adam Schefter's tweet calling him stupid for mentioning that because there isn't a criminal investigation, he won't go on the list.

Also, LMFAO at thinking Goodell likes the Patriots and will do whatever they say when in reality he hates them.

[dupaloop3611]

[weightsb4dates]

Okay I'm done with Cam. He isn't right. It's clear his ankle is still bothering him. It's killed me 2 weeks in a row in this league. If he is just going to stand in the pocket he's just about worthless as a fantasy starter.

Josh Allen is available and he's my target. FA at this time. I'd rather pick him up now instead of waiting for him to go off on the Giants and then having to fight FAAB for him or potentially waste more than I need for him cause nobody else bids for him.

Drop - Singletary, M. Sanders, Sutton, Hockenson (Have Waller), McLaurin, T. Hill (No IR spot)

Current Starters - 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Flex, 1DST

Cam
Fournette, Jones
Julio, Boyd, D Jax
Waller
Jacobs
Pats

Being that it's 3 WR I'm thinking of dropping Mile Sanders tomorrow AM. Having no IR spot is tough with only 6 bench spots. Then trying to possibly claim him back after Cam is droppable. Thoughts? Always want the RB depth and Singletary and Sanders are potential mid season starters, but I have no WR depth if I drop Sutton or McLaurin and don't win one back. I just want to make sure I get Allen. I think at this point, given his rushing ability his floor is better than Cam's and his ceiling is certainly higher.

drop sutton imo

[Tyler2106]

drop sutton imo

Not in a 3 WR league. There really isn't a player he can drop that people won't bid for them come next week.

Singletary is the guy to own in Buffalo. Sanders is clearly the best RB in Philly. Sutton had a great first week and should continue to have success. Hockenson is a must roster player. McLaurin is iffy for me right now. Could see him being a boom bust player especially with a rookie QB. That never pans out well. Can't drop Tyreek.

Honestly, I'd take my chances with having to spend a little more for Allen next week then possibly losing those players listed above.

[Jayarbie]

Well, be sure to comment on Adam Schefter's tweet calling him stupid for mentioning that because there isn't a criminal investigation, he won't go on the list.

Also, LMFAO at thinking Goodell likes the Patriots and will do whatever they say when in reality he hates them.

What about Kareem Hunt? He was never arrested, never charged, never even had a civil action against him, but he was put on the commissioner's exempt list anyway when the video surfaced.

And LMAO at thinking Goodell hates the Patriots. You do know that it was Kraft who personally nominated Goodell for commissioner, right? And that Goodell regularly attended the Patriots team celebrations? And that Goodell personally destroyed the spygate evidence? And that Goodell personally turned the deflategate investigation into a two year long farce including a federal court case to suspend one player for 4 games? And Goodell who handed down only a slap on the wrist for every major cheating scandal that the team was caught in? He's doing what he was put there to do - cover up for the Kraft & Belichik's program of systematic cheating - and he's done an exemplary job of it. I think it's likely that it was Goodell who alerted Brady to smash his phone like Hillary Clinton when there was a danger it could get subpoena'd.

The only thing in modern sports even comparable to the scale of the fraud the Patriots "dynasty" has engaged in is Lance Armstrong. When he was caught in the cheating scandal, every one of his victories was vacated and he was banned for life from cycling. Once the Patriots were exposed as repeated serial cheaters, the same thing should have happened to them - all of their titles vacated, Belichik banned from the league for life, and Kraft's franchise license revoked, but it didn't because they control the commissioner's office.

[bullybreed]

Not in a 3 WR league. There really isn't a player he can drop that people won't bid for them come next week.

Singletary is the guy to own in Buffalo. Sanders is clearly the best RB in Philly. Sutton had a great first week and should continue to have success. Hockenson is a must roster player. McLaurin is iffy for me right now. Could see him being a boom bust player especially with a rookie QB. That never pans out well. Can't drop Tyreek.

Honestly, I'd take my chances with having to spend a little more for Allen next week then possibly losing those players listed above.

Damn all of you and your differing opinions. Can’t you just all be on the same page and make my decision easier?

Really wish there was an IR slot in this league. Having to hold Hill is killing me for roster space. But this has been my thought all along, Tyler.

[cncman]

OJ howard is just killing it guys