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Thread: Mayweather is the P4P greatest
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06-09-2016, 08:13 AM #181
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06-09-2016, 04:53 PM #182
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06-10-2016, 12:59 PM #183
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06-10-2016, 02:24 PM #184
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06-10-2016, 02:32 PM #185
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06-11-2016, 02:01 AM #186
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06-11-2016, 02:14 AM #187
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06-11-2016, 02:42 AM #188
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06-11-2016, 02:57 AM #189
The real problem with the general public's perception of Mayweather is that they can only see in terms of black and white. Either he's a boring coward who always running (people who don't know chit about boxing) or think he's the greatest of all time (casual fans).
It's beyond question question that he's one of the truly great pound for pound boxers of all time. Frankly, he's probably the most special fighter that I have followed in my lifetime. He's certainly more accomplished and consistent than the likes of Roy Jones Jr., another all time great who was who brought up a lot of black and white opinions. But is he the greatest? No. As accomplished as he is, he's not the most accomplished in boxing history. As talented and skilled as he is, he's not the best there either. That said, I do think he's arguably the greatest defensive boxer of all time. A few, such as Pernell Whitaker, might have been better on pure defense, but unlike Whitaker, Mayweather actually has a decent offense when he lets loose.
Anyways, I've always been a fan of his. Not a good guy by any means, but watching him in the ring was like looking at a piece of art. Superb technique. Which is also one of the reasons why he was able to last so long in the game. Even if you hate him, you'd be a fool to say that boxing is in a better place without him.Last edited by ineedadrink; 06-11-2016 at 03:02 AM.
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06-11-2016, 03:35 AM #190
Agreed his style was entertaining for true boxing fans. Have more respect for a fighter that can retire on top while taking no damage than a guy that's been in so many wars that he can't talk properly when they're older.
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06-11-2016, 07:39 AM #191
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I think part of the issue is the ways in which the Boxing game has changed in the last 20 years. "Back in the day" you fought all comers, there was no cherry picking or putting things off to a time when it would be more advantageous. The scoring system has been become easily exploitable as boxings rules have become more about protecting the fighters from harm.
That said, Floyd was a defensive master. However, I don't find him that impressive over all. Mainly he was a classless **** talker with great footwork, a quick mind, decent chin and inconsistent power. The guy worked hard as hell though and was able to outsmart everyone he fought, no doubt. When viewed through the lens of boxings history I feel he in no way deserves the moniker "all time best". His record is not nearly in the same league as Marcianos, who fought wars in the ring. Not to mention guys like Robinson, Chavez, Hagler, Pep, Leonard, Duran, who completely outshine him as true warrior spirit types. Mayweathers greatest assets would not have helped him against most of those men.
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06-12-2016, 05:27 AM #192
Lol @ anyone thinking Floyd would beat SRR, Floyd would not even beat SRL.
Both "sugars" fought top fighters who were in their primes.
SRR fought Jake LaMotta more than 5 times exchanging wins and losses multiple times.
SRL fought Hacker, Hearts,Duran, didn't duck any one.
Floyd is the best we have for our era, but greatest of all time, definitely not. Even Duran would butt fukk Floyd in the middle of the ring.
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Edit: What gandalf up there said.
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06-12-2016, 06:11 AM #193
I hate to nitpick but LaMotta only managed to beat Robinson once. Robinson beat him 5 times. He also beat Kid Gavilan, Carmen Basilio, Gene Fullmer, Henry Amrstrong, and many others.
And I agree that Duran would beat Mayweather at lightweight, though it'd be very competitive fight. I also don't see any way Mayweather could beat Hearns at welter, although to be fair, welter isn't Mayweather's best weight.
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06-12-2016, 10:44 AM #194
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06-12-2016, 06:05 PM #195
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06-12-2016, 06:08 PM #196
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06-12-2016, 08:33 PM #197
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06-12-2016, 08:35 PM #198
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06-13-2016, 03:57 PM #199
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06-13-2016, 05:00 PM #200
LOL at the people in here saying XYZ would whip Floyd, how do we even know those guys would touch him?
The guy's barely getting touched at all by today's world class fighters, are we really supposed to believe that fighters from the past are magically THAT MUCH faster and stronger than boxers of today?
Come on son, whether you like it or not the first to beat Mayweather's gonna be father time, because until Mayweather slows down enough, nobody past/present/future would beat him.The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.
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06-13-2016, 05:17 PM #201
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06-14-2016, 10:44 AM #202
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06-14-2016, 12:12 PM #203The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.
That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
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06-14-2016, 04:14 PM #204
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Floyd is a great technical fighter. His ring IQ is second to none. He always adjusted to his opponents every time he faced difficulty early in his fights. That is what makes him the greatest IMO. Every other great fighter has had blunders in their careers. Being 49-0 with the level of oppositon he has faced in his career is amazing. The fact that he fought on WORLD CLASS level from his early 20s until his late 30s and not losing once is remarkable. Him not knocking people out after he wentup to 147 means nothing. a W is a W whether its from a decision or a KO...
If you think he is boring thats fine but that doesnt make him any less great. If you want to see KOs i suggest you check out Golovkin fights. Guy is a beast. 24 KOs in a row i believe.Follows Chestbrah's training routine crew
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06-14-2016, 04:17 PM #205
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06-14-2016, 04:22 PM #206
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06-14-2016, 04:39 PM #207
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06-14-2016, 04:47 PM #208
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12-12-2019, 04:53 AM #209
Myweather is good, but the P4P greatest would either have to be Tyson or Ali imo
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12-12-2019, 12:08 PM #210
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