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    Originally Posted by TwoNecklace View Post
    lol @ this dumb ******* and his dumb posts

    "floyd has basic footwork" LMAO
    don't even bother with this *******, if his footwork was basic....than he shouldv'e taken a loss at some point right? Considering he was fighting world class opponents, they would have had the answer to his "Basic footwork"
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    Originally Posted by Writingbrah View Post
    don't even bother with this *******, if his footwork was basic....than he shouldv'e taken a loss at some point right? Considering he was fighting world class opponents, they would have had the answer to his "Basic footwork"
    great argument
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    Lol'd so hard the day after May vs Pac when people legitimately believed that Pac somehow won their fight when May dominated the fight completely.
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    Originally Posted by Miscipline View Post
    Lol'd so hard the day after May vs Pac when people legitimately believed that Pac somehow won their fight when May dominated the fight completely.
    thats when you can separate boxing fan from casual. You actually had to have watched that fight with the belief that Manny was going to win, if you thought he won.

    It was a clear shut out for Floyd and anyone who thinks Manny won is a retard
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    Julio Caesar Chavez.

    Solid boxer, fun to watch, predatory, great chin, heavy hands, huge heart.

    Truly dominant in his day, took on everyone. He went 89 0 1 before his first loss.
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    This is the best boxing highlight video ever.



    beats any KO video.
    Rather watch paint dry than that.
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    Originally Posted by Gainzzz View Post
    Oh look, a boxing hipster

    Floyd would DECIMATE Sugar Ray Robinson if they were to fight in their primes. He was the best of his era but 90% of his fights were against factory workers and barmen.
    And oh look, a boxing idiot.

    Other than Robinson being flat out better (except in defense) and more accomplished, he would also have a noticeable size advantage. This isn't Pacquiao we're talking about, who basically began his career at horse jockey weight.
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    Originally Posted by Writingbrah View Post
    I wonder when people will stop being blinded by their hate for the guy and realize just how incredible his career was.

    He's the best boxer of all time and no one can take that title from him. One of the few boxers to go undefeated in a career, fought killers, most world title wins in history, beaten the most amount of world champions than any boxer...no one can mimick that

    People **** on him and say he's been fighting cans, he hasn't had any easy match ups since the day he turned pro.

    Brb
    - First man to stop Hall of famer and world champ..Genaro Hernandez
    - TKO'ed undisputed lightweight champ and HOF'er Chico Corrales
    - Beat one of the best LW's in boxing history Jose Castillo TWICE
    - Dominated Hall of Famer Arturo Gatti in a swe
    Op Forgot to mention RIP Genaro Hernandez
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    Mayweather covered all the expenses for the Hernandez burial and funeral..
    Hernandez died in poverty Floyd stepped up to honor the champ
    Look it up on youtube, a true gentleman....
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    The real problem with the general public's perception of Mayweather is that they can only see in terms of black and white. Either he's a boring coward who always running (people who don't know chit about boxing) or think he's the greatest of all time (casual fans).

    It's beyond question question that he's one of the truly great pound for pound boxers of all time. Frankly, he's probably the most special fighter that I have followed in my lifetime. He's certainly more accomplished and consistent than the likes of Roy Jones Jr., another all time great who was who brought up a lot of black and white opinions. But is he the greatest? No. As accomplished as he is, he's not the most accomplished in boxing history. As talented and skilled as he is, he's not the best there either. That said, I do think he's arguably the greatest defensive boxer of all time. A few, such as Pernell Whitaker, might have been better on pure defense, but unlike Whitaker, Mayweather actually has a decent offense when he lets loose.

    Anyways, I've always been a fan of his. Not a good guy by any means, but watching him in the ring was like looking at a piece of art. Superb technique. Which is also one of the reasons why he was able to last so long in the game. Even if you hate him, you'd be a fool to say that boxing is in a better place without him.
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    Agreed his style was entertaining for true boxing fans. Have more respect for a fighter that can retire on top while taking no damage than a guy that's been in so many wars that he can't talk properly when they're older.
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    Originally Posted by ineedadrink View Post
    The real problem with the general public's perception of Mayweather is that they can only see in terms of black and white. Either he's a boring coward who always running (people who don't know chit about boxing) or think he's the greatest of all time (casual fans).

    It's beyond question question that he's one of the truly great pound for pound boxers of all time. Frankly, he's probably the most special fighter that I have followed in my lifetime. He's certainly more accomplished and consistent than the likes of Roy Jones Jr., another all time great who was who brought up a lot of black and white opinions. But is he the greatest? No. As accomplished as he is, he's not the most accomplished in boxing history. As talented and skilled as he is, he's not the best there either. That said, I do think he's arguably the greatest defensive boxer of all time. A few, such as Pernell Whitaker, might have been better on pure defense, but unlike Whitaker, Mayweather actually has a decent offense when he lets loose.

    Anyways, I've always been a fan of his. Not a good guy by any means, but watching him in the ring was like looking at a piece of art. Superb technique. Which is also one of the reasons why he was able to last so long in the game. Even if you hate him, you'd be a fool to say that boxing is in a better place without him.
    I think part of the issue is the ways in which the Boxing game has changed in the last 20 years. "Back in the day" you fought all comers, there was no cherry picking or putting things off to a time when it would be more advantageous. The scoring system has been become easily exploitable as boxings rules have become more about protecting the fighters from harm.

    That said, Floyd was a defensive master. However, I don't find him that impressive over all. Mainly he was a classless **** talker with great footwork, a quick mind, decent chin and inconsistent power. The guy worked hard as hell though and was able to outsmart everyone he fought, no doubt. When viewed through the lens of boxings history I feel he in no way deserves the moniker "all time best". His record is not nearly in the same league as Marcianos, who fought wars in the ring. Not to mention guys like Robinson, Chavez, Hagler, Pep, Leonard, Duran, who completely outshine him as true warrior spirit types. Mayweathers greatest assets would not have helped him against most of those men.
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    Originally Posted by ineedadrink View Post
    And oh look, a boxing idiot.

    Other than Robinson being flat out better (except in defense) and more accomplished, he would also have a noticeable size advantage. This isn't Pacquiao we're talking about, who basically began his career at horse jockey weight.
    Lol @ anyone thinking Floyd would beat SRR, Floyd would not even beat SRL.

    Both "sugars" fought top fighters who were in their primes.

    SRR fought Jake LaMotta more than 5 times exchanging wins and losses multiple times.

    SRL fought Hacker, Hearts,Duran, didn't duck any one.

    Floyd is the best we have for our era, but greatest of all time, definitely not. Even Duran would butt fukk Floyd in the middle of the ring.

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    Originally Posted by MiniManletBrah View Post
    Lol @ anyone thinking Floyd would beat SRR, Floyd would not even beat SRL.

    Both "sugars" fought top fighters who were in their primes.

    SRR fought Jake LaMotta more than 5 times exchanging wins and losses multiple times.

    SRL fought Hacker, Hearts,Duran, didn't duck any one.

    Floyd is the best we have for our era, but greatest of all time, definitely not. Even Duran would butt fukk Floyd in the middle of the ring.

    ^^^
    Edit: What gandalf up there said.
    I hate to nitpick but LaMotta only managed to beat Robinson once. Robinson beat him 5 times. He also beat Kid Gavilan, Carmen Basilio, Gene Fullmer, Henry Amrstrong, and many others.

    And I agree that Duran would beat Mayweather at lightweight, though it'd be very competitive fight. I also don't see any way Mayweather could beat Hearns at welter, although to be fair, welter isn't Mayweather's best weight.
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    what many dont know about floyd is that aside from televised fights he was a USA olympic fighter, his last fight as an olympic fighter was lost an he was awarded a bronze some speculate he didnt get gold due to him being black.

    hes a great fighter that fought every countries best.
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    Floyd is TBE. If he did not have hand trouble, he would knock every1 of his opponents out. Too quick, too sharp, too smart.
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    Originally Posted by Writingbrah View Post
    don't even bother with this *******, if his footwork was basic....than he shouldv'e taken a loss at some point right? Considering he was fighting world class opponents, they would have had the answer to his "Basic footwork"
    he dodged most of the world class opponents that wanted to fight him.
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    Originally Posted by jmcdizzle44 View Post
    Agreed his style was entertaining for true boxing fans. Have more respect for a fighter that can retire on top while taking no damage than a guy that's been in so many wars that he can't talk properly when they're older.

    Not really. Floyd had to skills to do what Lomachenko does now, but he decided to fight outside of punching range for most of his fights.. Smart, Yes. Entertaining, not really.

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    Lomachenko's skills >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayweather's skills. Anyone disagree??
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    LOL at the people in here saying XYZ would whip Floyd, how do we even know those guys would touch him?

    The guy's barely getting touched at all by today's world class fighters, are we really supposed to believe that fighters from the past are magically THAT MUCH faster and stronger than boxers of today?

    Come on son, whether you like it or not the first to beat Mayweather's gonna be father time, because until Mayweather slows down enough, nobody past/present/future would beat him.
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    LOL at the people in here saying XYZ would whip Floyd, how do we even know those guys would touch him?

    The guy's barely getting touched at all by today's world class fighters, are we really supposed to believe that fighters from the past are magically THAT MUCH faster and stronger than boxers of today?

    Come on son, whether you like it or not the first to beat Mayweather's gonna be father time, because until Mayweather slows down enough, nobody past/present/future would beat him.
    a challenger appears.... too big, too skrong

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    Originally Posted by BroMart88 View Post
    a challenger appears.... too big, too skrong

    Yeah, I remember hearing the same thing about Canelo.

    How did he do?
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    Floyd is a great technical fighter. His ring IQ is second to none. He always adjusted to his opponents every time he faced difficulty early in his fights. That is what makes him the greatest IMO. Every other great fighter has had blunders in their careers. Being 49-0 with the level of oppositon he has faced in his career is amazing. The fact that he fought on WORLD CLASS level from his early 20s until his late 30s and not losing once is remarkable. Him not knocking people out after he wentup to 147 means nothing. a W is a W whether its from a decision or a KO...

    If you think he is boring thats fine but that doesnt make him any less great. If you want to see KOs i suggest you check out Golovkin fights. Guy is a beast. 24 KOs in a row i believe.
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    Yeah, I remember hearing the same thing about Canelo.

    How did he do?
    Two completely different fighters
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    Originally Posted by MBisonSon View Post
    Yeah, I remember hearing the same thing about Canelo.

    How did he do?
    Canelo is a overrated protected fighter though.

    Him and GGG are not on the same level... GGG cuts off the ring which Canelo does not do. Also has better ring iq, boxing skill, power, size.

    Hope GGG fights Lara next. Probably wont happen though..
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    Originally Posted by 4everalone View Post
    Canelo is a overrated protected fighter though.

    Him and GGG are not on the same level... GGG cuts off the ring which Canelo does not do. Also has better ring iq, boxing skill, power, size.

    Hope GGG fights Lara next. Probably wont happen though..
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    golovkin would destroy lara. canelo is hilarious. "we don't f*ck around in mexico". proceedes to duck triple G two weeks later
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    Myweather is good, but the P4P greatest would either have to be Tyson or Ali imo
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