Do I have a "right" to know where my gf is at?

[ryigan12]

You want to know why this is unacceptable and why the majority of guys my age think this about women. Women ruin it for us. Let me tell you a little story. I recently got out of a cheating relationship. The relationship lasted 1 1/2 years. Well my gf would never want to go out with me. We used to in the beginning, but then that stopped and she started going out with people from work. History with my gf is, I was best friends with her for 9 years. 9. 9 fuking years. You think you would trust a girl after 9 fuking years. Well guess what. The reason she didnt want me going out with these "work people" was she didnt want to involve me in her work life. She was fuking a cop. (she was a dispatcher)

This girl came from great family values, was a dance teacher for a highschool team, went to church every sunday, and from the 9 years I developed a friendship, was one of the nicest people I knew. But, throw the bitch attention from other guys, alcohol and bad influences from friends I never met, you know what happens next.

[Tony_S]

Right on brah but, this is why I tell women



Especially with female logic &&& all that chit about equality when they contradict that ****, the roles and what have you. I posted a in my teens thread where, I would be mangled, right ripped from drinking and a ******* bender, and wanting to snap the **** out on some ******* for hitting on some bish I am with. This here is stupidity. For starters, most are skanks, I am in a inebriated state meaning, I am not thinking properly, and the best thing to do is let women do whatever the **** they like. You weed them out that way and you troll them before kicking them the **** out. A piece of advice, I would chill the **** out, and while you may not enjoy women going out or doing this and that, its just is as it is.

You do have a decision in who you commit to so, just be selective there and when they reveal they are not who you thought they were, be done with them.

your mentality makes sense, and i don't disagree. but what if your girl is young(er) or just not as intelligent as you and sometimes needs to be guided because she doesn't know any better? or hasn't learned? even if you have trust, or want to weed her out, some things can just be avoided all together if you just talk about it with her and explain why you think it's a bad idea.

[ryigan12]

I will never be able to trust a sloot again.

[Tony_S]

You want to know why this is unacceptable and why the majority of guys my age think this about women. Women ruin it for us. Let me tell you a little story. I recently got out of a cheating relationship. The relationship lasted 1 1/2 years. Well my gf would never want to go out with me. We used to in the beginning, but then that stopped and she started going out with people from work. History with my gf is, I was best friends with her for 9 years. 9. 9 fuking years. You think you would trust a girl after 9 fuking years. Well guess what. The reason she didnt want me going out with these "work people" was she didnt want to involve me in her work life. She was fuking a cop. (she was a dispatcher)

This girl came from great family values, was a dance teacher for a highschool team, went to church every sunday, and from the 9 years I developed a friendship, was one of the nicest people I knew. But, throw the bitch attention from other guys, alcohol and bad influences from friends I never met, you know what happens next.

that sucks man. that's why you get involved with a girl who has already had plenty of attention, and has "survived" it meaning she didn't become a dumb attention whore slut who gets influenced easily and changed by people and her surroundings.

[jamestown0101]

your mentality makes sense, and i don't disagree. but what if your girl is young(er) or just not as intelligent as you and sometimes needs to be guided because she doesn't know any better? or hasn't learned? even if you have trust, or want to weed her out, some things can just be avoided all together if you just talk about it with her and explain why you think it's a bad idea.

Downgraded to booty call, ons, fwb. Not even open relationship. My current gf is open relationship. I see everything in life as either being upgraded or downgraded. Getting chiseled or getting fat. The gf says **** that makes me think or just perspective that hits me cause I am naturally jaded as **** but, someone that offers something entirely different? Its pretty cool. Without discussing our personal ****, lets just say, she is a lot more moral and spiritual then I. She knows what I am up to and instead of judging me or telling me what I should do, she just leads by example. This I respect.

Women tend to want someone to inspire them and make them follow as mydawg says but, if I got to baby sit, I will rotate her but, I wont be keeping her around much. I want a woman that is independent. Not someone I have to baby sit.

that sucks man. that's why you get involved with a girl who has already had plenty of attention, and has "survived" it meaning she didn't become a dumb attention whore slut who gets influenced easily and changed by people and her surroundings.

I agree with this however, I think most women think their special cause they have a vagina, and cause men put them on a ****ing pedestal. Its retarded but, they truly believe this and there are those few rare ones that actually have a brain. They are attractive, they got some personality and are independent women, educated, and got **** going on for themselves. Not real life at age 18. If she is in her late teens, I am ****ing down but, not to keep around seriously.

Girls age 24 and are already plumpers and stalky as ****. If you are a woman, you are naturally petite and you start packing on the beef, it ****ing shows.

[Tiffany Wantsmore]

lol. nobody cares about your open relationship and your boyfriend doesn't care about you going out because he knows the only guys that will probably make a pass at you are drunken sailors and truck drivers. or maybe he just doesn't give a $h1t about you. who knows. you're 40 years old and trying to compare your relationship to people's relationships and mentalities that are half your age. you are also openly an active member of multiple "internet crews" and have 18 thousand posts on an internet forum. all at the age of 40. i lol @ anyone who actually considers your opinion or takes your advice.

I lol @ you thinking I'm an "active member" of my crews ... its just funny stuff to have in my sig and means nothing. And I don't have an open relationship so I have no idea where you got that from. As for him "not caring" about me going out, its irrelevant whether anyone makes passes at me or not. Just because someone tries to chat me up, so what? I'm not interested in anyone else. That's why he doesn't have a problem with it. He knows I'm not shady.

Also, it took me 7 years to make 18,000 posts.

You did it again? Do tell? I assume your still with your mma/wrestler special friend?

Sorry did what again? And yes I'm still with the cage fighter. He's my man now.

[jamestown0101]

Sorry did what again? And yes I'm still with the cage fighter. He's my man now.

Good stuff little lady!

[FitnessBlue]

Lol @ "cage fighter". This turbo whore is dating a TAPOUT douche and expects her opinion to be heard. I assume this guy isn't 40 either as no mature adult would be into such a fad.

Also, bish. Again, it's not about the trust a guy has in his girl. It's about the guy knowing what other guys want and are actively looking for, especially in meat markets. Oh but it's ok, you'll be with your "friends" like that's gonna stop anything.

[BigFoigg]

Lol @ "cage fighter". This turbo whore is dating a TAPOUT douche and expects her opinion to be heard. I assume this guy isn't 40 either as no mature adult would be into such a fad.

Also, bish. Again, it's not about the trust a guy has in his girl. It's about the guy knowing what other guys want and are actively looking for, especially in meat markets. Oh but it's ok, you'll be with your "friends" like that's gonna stop anything.

Please stop making me want to put you on my "reps for life" list

[poolshark472]

Lol @ "cage fighter". This turbo whore is dating a TAPOUT douche and expects her opinion to be heard. I assume this guy isn't 40 either as no mature adult would be into such a fad.

Also, bish. Again, it's not about the trust a guy has in his girl. It's about the guy knowing what other guys want and are actively looking for, especially in meat markets. Oh but it's ok, you'll be with your "friends" like that's gonna stop anything.

wut? O/T but i know several men personally in their 30's and 40's who train MMA that work full-time careers and have families. what does a sport have to do with maturity?

[Tiffany Wantsmore]

He's been a cage fighter for 13 years. He's now a strongman. He's also a muay Thai instructor. Say whatever you like, its water off a duck's back to me but I will defend him because that's what a loyal girlfriend does - and nobody slags off my man.

And fyi, its not only out in bars that girls get hit on. It happens all the time. Guys are always on here complaining about being rejected or approaching a girl who then says "I have a boyfriend" ... yet some of you act like a guy chatting a girl up is a foregone conclusion that she'll be sucking his cock in an alley 5 minutes later. If you, FitnessBlue, hang around with girls who do such things, then I suggest you interact with more quality women and stop labelling every female as a "whore". I find it hard to believe you're 33.

[Jpenn89]

So how did this thread go from the OP asking a question, to arguing between a couple miscers about what makes them irresponsible/a whore.

Not really sure, But OP, it is probably best you broke up with her. With your next GF you need to make your expectations clear. let her know you don't want to be overbearing, but you would like to know where she was going when she went out. That you have no problem with "a girls night out" But you worry and just want to ease that worry a bit by know who she was with.

[rbsx]

that sucks man. that's why you get involved with a girl who has already had plenty of attention, and has "survived" it meaning she didn't become a dumb attention whore slut who gets influenced easily and changed by people and her surroundings.

****ing truth right here - you want to date a girl who has gone through the attention seeking phase and knows how to handle it and isn't easily influenced by others.

[FitnessBlue]

Lol Tiffany Wantsmoresausage, water off a ducks back huh? Lulz @ your neg comment (negs for life). Sounds like turbo sloot is butthurt. Guess you Lise this time huh? You will lose everytime ;-)

Oh and Tiff, yes unfortunately I am 33!
I would deff love the opportunity to hang around good girls, but I also want to win the lotto. Not sure which one has better odds

Now all this stuff aside. I am actually glad for you that you have a person that you find compatible. One day it will be mine turn. Don't hate on the Alphas though, especially since we are the ones that get your jimmies not only rustled but very very moist as well. Mmmkay

[FitnessBlue]

Please stop making me want to put you on my "reps for life" list

We think alike brah, we think alike
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I think you and Tony_S are my bromance brahs on BB.com

[Bracket199]

We think alike brah, we think alike
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I think you and Tony_S are my bromance brahs on BB.com

It just sounds like you guys are insecure.

'she shouldn't put herself in that situation'. Yea, she shouldn't. But if her friends want to have a night on their own, or invite the guys out too, but they can't make it, do they stop their own plans?

It sounds like you guys want the GF's to do everything for you, but expect her to follow your command.

[BigFoigg]

It just sounds like you guys are insecure.

'she shouldn't put herself in that situation'. Yea, she shouldn't. But if her friends want to have a night on their own, or invite the guys out too, but they can't make it, do they stop their own plans?

It sounds like you guys want the GF's to do everything for you, but expect her to follow your command.

Stats: 5'7", 141 lbs

Seeing your post really put things in perspective.. now I am not so insecure. Thanks brah.

But seriously, yes that is exactly what we expect them to do. I don't like to use the word "command" because it implies that I am FORCING her to be honest and considerate, when in reality a true "good girl" should do that anyway. I tell my GF where I'm going and with whom.. and honestly if she isn't comfortable with it, I expect her to tell me so I can either explain myself or not do whatever activity it is. And I would do the same. I am not saying my GF should never go out, I WAS saying to the OP that it's not right for his GF to be so shady and then proceed to get angry when OP asks where she goes and with whom, especially after having been in a relationship for a year. It's a huge red flag, and coming from someone who was cheated on before, she is exhibiting the same traits my now-ex GF did when I caught her slooting around.

[rbsx]

It just sounds like you guys are insecure.

'she shouldn't put herself in that situation'. Yea, she shouldn't. But if her friends want to have a night on their own, or invite the guys out too, but they can't make it, do they stop their own plans?

It sounds like you guys want the GF's to do everything for you, but expect her to follow your command.

Wrong wrong wrong. I think it's understandable to be a little bit concerned when girls put themselves in a situation that involves alcohol, drugs, lots of dudes, lots of attention, because it's a scenario in which bad things tend to happen. Let's be honest here - it really only takes one **** up to botch a relationship, and it's far more likely to come in a situation like this.

I generally trust the girls I'm dating/seeing, but seeing them exercise the right to put themselves in a situation they know makes me edgy is where I get concerned because it means to them having reckless YOLO fun > long term relationship.

I'm not saying don't go out, I'm saying understand where the person you're dating is coming from when they don't like it - after all, if I went out every other night and didn't let the girl I was dating know where I was going she'd be tripping ****ing balls.

[FitnessBlue]

It just sounds like you guys are insecure.

'she shouldn't put herself in that situation'. Yea, she shouldn't. But if her friends want to have a night on their own, or invite the guys out too, but they can't make it, do they stop their own plans?

It sounds like you guys want the GF's to do everything for you, but expect her to follow your command.

Uses term "insecure", read stats, assume to be female. Nothing to see here

[FitnessBlue]

Had a pof date today, first meeting, went to a bar. I layed down the talk about guys and girls just being friends. She of course said "sure they can be just friends", I asked further and explained my opinion. Then she goes on to say that "yes, they have tried hitting on her/getting in her pants". Says she still hangs with them anyway and asked if I would have a problem with that. I said "**** yeah I would lol", payed the bill and boom, YOLO bish can find someone else.

[rbsx]

Had a pof date today, first meeting, went to a bar. I layed down the talk about guys and girls just being friends. She of course said "sure they can be just friends", I asked further and explained my opinion. Then she goes on to say that "yes, they have tried hitting on her/getting in her pants". Says she still hangs with them anyway and asked if I would have a problem with that. I said "**** yeah I would lol", payed the bill and boom, YOLO bish can find someone else.

I don't mind if my girl hangs out with guys, so long as I know them and have met them and have made my presence known. When a girl starts hanging out with people and keeps us seperated.. then I know ****s going down.

[FitnessBlue]

I don't mind if my girl hangs out with guys, so long as I know them and have met them and have made my presence known. When a girl starts hanging out with people and keeps us seperated.. then I know ****s going down.

Well that's one more step to the left of me brah. I DGAF if I have met them. Just not happening, but again mutual. I wouldn't hang with vagina creatures just the same

[MrFrumble]

It just sounds like you guys are insecure.

'she shouldn't put herself in that situation'. Yea, she shouldn't. But if her friends want to have a night on their own, or invite the guys out too, but they can't make it, do they stop their own plans?

It sounds like you guys want the GF's to do everything for you, but expect her to follow your command.

Go and read OP's posts again. His GF didn't even have the common decency to tell her significant other where she was going, and with whom, and would react angrily when OP would very reasonably ask her where she was going. Women seem to think they can "have their cake and eat it too" and that basic respect and OBVIOUS obligations within a relationship relating to behaviour are not applicable to them.

OP even fcuking SAID he had not problems with his woman going out, it was just the fact she couldn't even be fcuked telling him, and would lie on top of it all about her phone being off, etc, that was THE CATALYST for the poor bloke falling off the deep end.

I can't even imagine just "going out for a night out on the town" without even the notion of considering to tell my wife/GF where I was going entering my mind, the way that women think it is OK to do going by the responses in this thread.

[MrFrumble]

Uses term "insecure", read stats, assume to be female. Nothing to see here

LMAO!

I have wondered the same thing, the only time this "bloke" ever enters a thread it is to defend whores, no matter what they do.

[Bracket199]

Go and read OP's posts again. His GF didn't even have the common decency to tell her significant other where she was going, and with whom, and would react angrily when OP would very reasonably ask her where she was going. Women seem to think they can "have their cake and eat it too" and that basic respect and OBVIOUS obligations within a relationship relating to behaviour are not applicable to them.

OP even fcuking SAID he had not problems with his woman going out, it was just the fact she couldn't even be fcuked telling him, and would lie on top of it all about her phone being off, etc, that was THE CATALYST for the poor bloke falling off the deep end.

I can't even imagine just "going out for a night out on the town" without even the notion of considering to tell my wife/GF where I was going entering my mind, the way that women think it is OK to do going by the responses in this thread.

I was too lazy to read the thread. Pissing everyone off just gave me the cliffs I needed . I just said something general enough to get the attention of people, and you gave the best answer of it.

So I take all your insults you guys say with nothing. You guys can come at me all you want.

Considering I tell my GF where I'm at, and she tells me where she's at, I really don't see the problem about telling him.


Like, my GF may say 'yea I'm hanging out with xyz tonight.' I'll be like, 'oh cool, where you girls going?' She finishes with a 'we are going to a bar/her room/some exercise class/etc.' I just tell her to have fun and leave it at that. I never demand details, but she never seems afraid to tell me. After reading the post again, and some comments, there's two differences to me asking, and her just telling me.

If she's secretive, I feel that's a problem. If she says shes going out, and I ask where, and she tells me, there's no problem with that to me.


Oh, and a final thing. I don't update anything, such as weight. And I can't change my height, it's a genetics thing. Attacking that makes no proper argument. It's like attacking me for being white.

P.S I don't really defend whores, but I think more with an open-mind then jump at someone's throat. Some threads on here are pretty ludicrous with the way some people use logic.

[vikings_70]

I was too lazy to read the thread. Pissing everyone off just gave me the cliffs I needed . I just said something general enough to get the attention of people, and you gave the best answer of it.

So I take all your insults you guys say with nothing. You guys can come at me all you want.

Considering I tell my GF where I'm at, and she tells me where she's at, I really don't see the problem about telling him.


Like, my GF may say 'yea I'm hanging out with xyz tonight.' I'll be like, 'oh cool, where you girls going?' She finishes with a 'we are going to a bar/her room/some exercise class/etc.' I just tell her to have fun and leave it at that. I never demand details, but she never seems afraid to tell me. After reading the post again, and some comments, there's two differences to me asking, and her just telling me.

If she's secretive, I feel that's a problem. If she says shes going out, and I ask where, and she tells me, there's no problem with that to me.


Oh, and a final thing. I don't update anything, such as weight. And I can't change my height, it's a genetics thing. Attacking that makes no proper argument. It's like attacking me for being white.

P.S I don't really defend whores, but I think more with an open-mind then jump at someone's throat. Some threads on here are pretty ludicrous with the way some people use logic.

No need for everyone to get their jimmies all rustled up in this dangerously-close-to-being-derailed thread. I'm actually surprised at how wide a spectrum of viewpoints people have on this topic. Some people think their significant others shouldn't go out at all without them, while others don't care in the slightest what they're up to.

I have always found myself in the middle ground, and with this girl I tried to make that clear as possible. I told her quite blatantly if she wants to have a night out with the girls, I'm totally fine with that. Just give me the heads up so I can do my own thing that evening. Or if she just wants a night alone, I was completely fine with that too.

What I wasn't comfortable with was her going to the bar, or to a concert, or to a sporting event, with guys who I had never met. She has some guy friends that I do know and trust (for the most part), that I was even fine with if she went out without me. I conveyed the fact that it bothered me, and I felt like it was innapropriate in our relationship for her to be hanging out all night with guys I'd never met. She'd just give me the 'But they're just my guy friends. What, I can't hang out with my friends now??' It was a gross trivialization of the actual problem, and left me once again looking like the bad guy.

Some of the things I put up with I don't even want to say on here, because it was so f***ing beta to sit there and take. I'm just glad I finally put an end to it; maybe this will inspire someone else who's in this situation to take a step back and look at the big picture, and realize you're really not happy and its not going to work out.

[coppb]

Unless you have a reason NOT to trust her, START trusting her.

[poolshark472]

Some of the things I put up with I don't even want to say on here, because it was so f***ing beta to sit there and take. I'm just glad I finally put an end to it; maybe this will inspire someone else who's in this situation to take a step back and look at the big picture, and realize you're really not happy and its not going to work out.

That's all the matters brah- your own well being. Props for having the courage to walk away.

Unless you have a reason NOT to trust her, START trusting her.

Sound advice, but read the thread; it no longer applies in OP's situation.

[canonhope]

This. Sorry Tiff, but your age gap makes almost everything you say completely irrelevant ITT. Imagine if my own mom or dad were to give me advice on the opposite sex? They'd be likely dead wrong 99% of the time simply because of the huge gap between generations. You can argue that YOUR generation is a lot more "proper" than now. Go to any college party in 2012 and you'll know what I'm on about. My dad can "let" my mom go out with her friends with likely zero worries just because they are both 50, and the threats that me and MY GF face when either of us goes to the clubs/bars alone are nonexistent for them. Just because YOU (seem to) have wisdom and good judgement to do the 'right' thing, don't assume that girls (read: NOT women) half your age will as well.

True dis. When I was 18 had a gf who was going to the club with her friends, got "drunk" and slooted with a dude. Her bish logic: I was drunk and my friends influenced me, i didn't want to.

I've been married to a woman now for a long time, and I honestly don't care where she goes or gives me notice unless she's gonna be gone for a while. Usually I'm thinking "pls go" so i can get some quiet.

[canonhope]

What I wasn't comfortable with was her going to the bar, or to a concert, or to a sporting event, with guys who I had never met. She has some guy friends that I do know and trust (for the most part), that I was even fine with if she went out without me. I conveyed the fact that it bothered me, and I felt like it was innapropriate in our relationship for her to be hanging out all night with guys I'd never met. She'd just give me the 'But they're just my guy friends. What, I can't hang out with my friends now??' It was a gross trivialization of the actual problem, and left me once again looking like the bad guy.

Some of the things I put up with I don't even want to say on here, because it was so f***ing beta to sit there and take. I'm just glad I finally put an end to it; maybe this will inspire someone else who's in this situation to take a step back and look at the big picture, and realize you're really not happy and its not going to work out.

didn't read entire thread, but good that you put an end to that. srs. That's the lamest excuse "they're just my guy friends." no poon is worth your dignity brahs.