***The Official Atheist and Christian Friendly Discussion***

[Medtreker]

People who search for God with their intellect will not find Him because He is not intellectually found. He is spiritually found within the heart. This does not mean that those with high IQs will not find God, but the path is not through the intellect. But once you have found Him, there is nothing that intellectually conflicts with your finding.

This is an interesting path of discussion. I have recently been learning of the (higher) intellegence of animals. many animals, it seems to some, have a type of intellegence that has missed our perception. Birds, elephants, ect. Beyond the obvious "instict" assumptions, it seems they may possess some forms of intellegent thought (somewhat) similar to our own.

So, I wonder about the Christian God, and animals. I have several questions, some of which I'm sure scripture may answer to, and perhaps several that theologians could speak to.

My primary question is where God would be without Man. Seems simple on the onset, but I believe the question quite deep.

[2nd_chance]

Come on. Again with this? It's better just to say that due to religious affiliation, I have choosen not to seek out the information provided by scientific sources of the past 100 years. It's a choice. That I could understand.

I can relate to that comment. I have not sought out any information re the subject, nor do I intend to. Much the same, I do not expect an atheist to go to seminary to learn more about God.

[2nd_chance]

This is an interesting path of discussion. I have recently been learning of the (higher) intellegence of animals. many animals, it seems to some, have a type of intellegence that has missed our perception. Birds, elephants, ect. Beyond the obvious "instict" assumptions, it seems they may possess some forms of intellegent thought (somewhat) similar to our own.

So, I wonder about the Christian God, and animals. I have several questions, some of which I'm sure scripture may answer to, and perhaps several that theologians could speak to.

My primary question is where God would be without Man. Seems simple on the onset, but I believe the question quite deep.

Where God would be without man? Is that your question? He would still be God but would be absent of the fellowship and companionship of someone who He made in His image, with free will. The Bible reveals that God has feeling and emotion just like His creation.

[Medtreker]

This week was my first back in the gym in two months due to hernia surgery. Man I am sore lol.

Well, doesn't seem anyone could tell you took time off by looking at you! You Beast! Which brings us back to topic of animal intellegence and God.....

[Medtreker]

I am as a lamp to the nations. A light to divide the darkness.

What's with the Parables ??

[2nd_chance]

Well, doesn't seem anyone could tell you took time off by looking at you! You Beast! Which brings us back to topic of animal intellegence and God.....

My wife is a vet and she doesn't think they're too smart

[2nd_chance]

What's with the Parables ??

Speaking of intelligence, there is no space needed before punctuation

[Medtreker]

Where God would be without man? Is that your question? He would still be God but would be absent of the fellowship and companionship of someone who He made in His image, with free will. The Bible reveals that God has feeling and emotion just like His creation.

OK, so there is a very real sense that links God and Man. Each one, in a very certain way, needs the other. They complete each other. Is that somewhat correct?

[Medtreker]

Big fan of veterinarians And don't mind my typing skills

[2nd_chance]

OK, so there is a very real sense that links God and Man. Each one, in a very certain way, needs the other. They complete each other. Is that somewhat correct?

i believe that is a correct thought.

[GreatOldOne]

Where God would be without man? Is that your question? He would still be God but would be absent of the fellowship and companionship of someone who He made in His image, with free will. The Bible reveals that God has feeling and emotion just like His creation.

you're deep in the weeds and water dude. i'd give you a snorkel if i could but you'd think it was a dick probably.

[2nd_chance]

you're deep in the weeds and water dude. i'd give you a snorkel if i could but you'd think it was a dick probably.

Thanks for your insight and contribution great one.

[JOHN GARGANI]

you're deep in the weeds and water dude. i'd give you a snorkel if i could but you'd think it was a dick probably.

and speaking of dicks, if a thread like this goes on long enough, one like YOU shows up....

negs for disrespect...wish I could have bumped you into red....

[lasher]

you're deep in the weeds and water dude. i'd give you a snorkel if i could but you'd think it was a dick probably.

negged

[Minotaur]

and speaking of dicks, if a thread like this goes on long enough, one like YOU shows up....

negs for disrespect...wish I could have bumped you into red....

I gotcher back, bruh (do we still say that? I been away, you know ).

[Minotaur]

This week was my first back in the gym in two months due to hernia surgery. Man I am sore lol.

Uh... no heroics, the gym will be there.

[Minotaur]

My wife is a vet and she doesn't think they're too smart

She doesn't know my dogs & cat, 3 criminals in cohoots organizing their criminal efforts.

[Medtreker]

you're deep in the weeds and water dude. i'd give you a snorkel if i could but you'd think it was a dick probably.

aaaaannnnddddd...into the red. Ha! That's the first time I've done that! Well, it's probably perhaps only the second time I've ever actually Neg'ed someone, but, my neg instantly turned him red. Ha...such simple things entertain me....

[Medtreker]

i believe that is a correct thought.

OK. Here's where I'm going, and I really don't want to go overboard over thinking this...

Faithfull believe their needs for God were essentially created by God, Atheiest believe Man created the needs for God. Interesting twist.

[Minotaur]

aaaaannnnddddd...into the red. Ha! That's the first time I've done that! Well, it's probably perhaps only the second time I've ever actually Neg'ed someone, but, my neg instantly turned him red. Ha...such simple things entertain me....

You always remember your first time.

[Medtreker]

You always remember your first time.

I used to have this cool (what I thought at the time) T-Shirt, St. Paulie Girl Beer... It was a modernized "busty" version of the girl on the lable, and the caption said, "You Never Forget Your First Girl." I felt like the SH&T wearin that T-shirt...think I was 18....

Man, have we digressed!!!!

[KRANE]

being a Good person in this world STARTS from being Good to OURSELVES......

Then you exist because you still have much to learn. There is only ONE good. What you just defined is the act of selfishness.

[Minotaur]

Man, have we digressed!!!!

No surprise for here.

[TCO76]

OK. Here's where I'm going, and I really don't want to go overboard over thinking this...

Faithfull believe their needs for God were essentially created by God, Atheiest believe Man created the needs for God. Interesting twist.

So did a man pour two liquids together and form a tree? It's funny because wasn't it MAN who came up with the theory of evolution.. ? they pulled a few ideas out of their asses and whalah ..... it became a theory. And those who believe those theory's are putting their faith in man... and noone ever questioned it...... ? I don't think scientists have even scratched the surface on how big God really is..LOL

[TCO76]

BTW that wasn't an insult at all just something to think about...it works both ways.

[BobbyOrr1965]

So did a man pour two liquids together and form a tree? It's funny because wasn't it MAN who came up with the theory of evolution.. ? they pulled a few ideas out of their asses and whalah ..... it became a theory. And those who believe those theory's are putting their faith in man... and noone ever questioned it...... ? I don't think scientists have even scratched the surface on how big God really is..LOL

How could they? I like science and theology though some have asked how I reconcile them. I don't know how completely. But I don't know that science dismantles and discredits God.

[2nd_chance]

How could they? I like science and theology though some have asked how I reconcile them. I don't know how completely. But I don't know that science dismantles and discredits God.

Only when twisted.

[BobbyOrr1965]

I wonder if what we know of the big bang was actually the Word of God manifesting creation. Twisted?

[Brackneyc]

Has science figured out if coffee is good, or bad for us? They keep changing their minds.

[BobbyOrr1965]

Has science figured out if coffee is good, or bad for us? They keep changing their minds.

Science has discovered that everything can give us Cancer lol. Coffee is high in antioxidants like red wine and is good in moderation. Caffeine hits the adrenal glands. The only negative thing is that sometimes people get flattened adrenal glands from too much stress and stimulants once in awhile. Oh sorry for taking off topic. God. there we are back on track