RANT: R.I.P. Tyrbolift

[Dominik]

Talk about dodging a bullet with Osweiler. Rookie QB Siemian is on $500K and has better numbers.

[Farley1324]

Talk about dodging a bullet with Osweiler. Rookie QB Siemian is on $500K and has better numbers.

Maybe have John Elway as executive VP and general manager helps with picking the right QB

[chazzy1864]

I don't understand the Texans' play-calling either. Denver has one of the best secondaries in the league, but has ranked 22nd against the run. Alfred Blue, for crying out loud, was averaging over 5 yards per carry against them (and it wasn't just one long 44 yard carry to pad his 63 yard total (on 11 carries). he had a long of 17, but was regularly ripping off 7-8 yard carries. Alfred Blue! His career ypc has been under 4. He is a plodder.

Lamar Miller also had 11 carries for 61 yards. He was regularly ripping off chunk yardage (he did hurt his shoulder on his 3rd carry, which is why Blue rushed so many times). But in a game, where both running backs are demolishing the opposing run defense, why would you give them only 22 carries compared to 41 attempts by the pathetic Osweiler? When one of his receivers finally had their 2nd catch, he was 5 for 13 and not a single receiver had more than 9 yards on a catch. It was pathetic. At that same time, the running backs had only had 10 total carries:
1st down: Osweiler pass incomplete
2nd down: Lamar Miller rushes for 7 yards
3rd down: Osweiler pass complete to Will Fuller for 2 yards (Fuller's 2nd catch, Osweiler's 5th completion)
4th down: Punt

[chazzy1864]

Maybe have John Elway as executive VP and general manager helps with picking the right QB

Elway drafted Osweiler.

[Farley1324]

Elway drafted Osweiler.

Where is he now?

I'm going to assume that you can't be guaranteed to know how a player will do in the NFL until they get to the NFL, no matter what you see in the amateur league. The major draft busts over the years seem to support this.

And what was their record when they had Osweiler on roster?

[chazzy1864]

Where is he now?

I'm going to assume that you can't be guaranteed to know how a player will do in the NFL until they get to the NFL, no matter what you see in the amateur league. The major draft busts over the years seem to support this.

Okay, I was just making sure you weren't implying that Elway drafted Semeian(sp?) but not Osweiler, so that was the reason for the disparity.

[Dominik]

Maybe have John Elway as executive VP and general manager helps with picking the right QB

With Peyton retiring they didn't have many options so they offered him $16m which was still way more than he is worth but at least Elway had the sense not to match the Texans' offer.

Then they dodged another bullet with Kaepernick.

[Final_Rep]

Famous people who would be flipping burgers without twitter?

Possibly.

But is that any different than professional sports?

One could argue that there's no real value created by a bunch of grown men running into each other. Yet they are some of the highest paid people in the country.

[Farley1324]

Possibly.

But is that any different than professional sports?

One could argue that there's no real value created by a bunch of grown men running into each other. Yet they are some of the highest paid people in the country.

You think there would be no professional sports if not for social media?

Pretty sure pro athletes have been making good money since before social media or the word follower became commonplace

[Final_Rep]

You think there would be no professional sports if not for social media?

No, I was merely pointing at that people are hating on Kim and social media in general for making money while doing nothing of value when the same thing can be said for professional sports.

[Orlando1234977]

Where is he now?

I'm going to assume that you can't be guaranteed to know how a player will do in the NFL until they get to the NFL, no matter what you see in the amateur league. The major draft busts over the years seem to support this.

And what was their record when they had Osweiler on roster?

If guarantees were present there would be no ability in finding the talent. Nearly all, of not all, of the Pro Bowlers were drafted from the same league.

[Orlando1234977]

No, I was merely pointing at that people are hating on Kim and social media in general for making money while doing nothing of value when the same thing can be said for professional sports.

No they're pointing out her ability, the complete opposite of the world's best atha letes.

[Farley1324]

No, I was merely pointing at that people are hating on Kim and social media in general for making money while doing nothing of value when the same thing can be said for professional sports.

I don't think it's nothing "of value", I think it's nothing.

Being exceptionally capable at a difficult sport that requires great physical ability the likes of which us mere mortals can only dream, that is actually a thing. Physical contests go back farther than our species, whether or not you care to spectate.

So, what does she do? What is her career?

[Final_Rep]

No they're pointing out her ability, the complete opposite of the world's best atha letes.

I don't think it's nothing "of value", I think it's nothing.

Look at all these jimmies rustling in the wind.

So, what does she do? What is her career?

I thought that was obvious. Her career, primarily, is entertainment. Just like professional sports.

[Farley1324]

Rustling? Did I miss some deleted posts or something? What are you talking about?

[Orlando1234977]

Look at all these jimmies rustling in the wind.

I thought that was obvious. Her career, primarily, is entertainment. Just like professional sports.

I'm not rustled, I'm on a two game win streak. Now I'm in the mood to speculate on some securities. Always exploit momentum.

[Dominik]

Possibly.

But is that any different than professional sports?

One could argue that there's no real value created by a bunch of grown men running into each other. Yet they are some of the highest paid people in the country.

I know you're playing devil's advocate and it's a valid point however at least professional athletes have talent and had to work hard.

Millions of kids right now are training to reach a level that only a select few ever get to. To be the next Tom Brady or LeBron. The next Roger Federer. Tiger Woods. List goes on.

Now if you're a young woman aspiring to follow in the footsteps of Kardashian, what kind of skills would you be working on and what are your goals? Making a sex tape? Trying to get 100 million followers on Twitter? Have a TV show about your life? I hope you can see the difference.

[Orlando1234977]

And as far as value goes, what if you owned a good American restaurant, bar or hotel near the stadium?

Now if you're a young woman aspiring to follow in the footsteps of Kardashian, what kind of skills would you be working on and what are your goals? Making a sex tape?

Why do you think he always walks around with those silly cameras and shopping those tripods and now defending the dreams of the aspired by saying look it's no different than sports.

[Final_Rep]

I know you're playing devil's advocate and it's a valid point however at least professional athletes have talent and had to work hard.

Millions of kids right now are training to reach a level that only a select few ever get to. To be the next Tom Brady or LeBron. The next Roger Federer. Tiger Woods. List goes on.

Now if you're a young woman aspiring to follow in the footsteps of Kardashian, what kind of skills would you be working on and what are your goals? Making a sex tape? Trying to get 100 million followers on Twitter? Have a TV show about your life? I hope you can see the difference.

The Devil's Advocate position would be that those millions of kids would be better off doing something else. 99.999% of them never make it to professional sports. The ones who do would be fortunate to come out of it with enough money to retire and live comfortably.

The difference I see is the discipline. Those millions of kids learn discipline along the way. That translates to future goals.

[Dominik]

The Devil's Advocate position would be that those millions of kids would be better off doing something else. 99.999% of them never make it to professional sports. The ones who do would be fortunate to come out of it with enough money to retire and live comfortably.

A lot of people "doing something else" are punching the clock everyday feeling miserable.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Many athletes have an education to fall back on.

Getting back to the original point, if a kid with talent and drive wants to be the next Roger Federer or Kobe Bryant that's a better goal than aspiring to be some talentless hack who'd be flipping burgers without social media.

[Orlando1234977]

A lot of people "doing something else" are punching the clock everyday feeling miserable.

It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Many athletes have an education to fall back on.

Getting back to the original point, if a kid with talent and drive wants to be the next Roger Federer or Kobe Bryant that's a better goal than aspiring to be some talentless hack who'd be flipping burgers without social media.

Here's a good Christian boy talking about dreams vs chances yesterday and blowing up Stephen A. @ 5:15.
Darinaldu would love it.

[Farley1324]

The Devil's Advocate position would be that those millions of kids would be better off doing something else. 99.999% of them never make it to professional sports. The ones who do would be fortunate to come out of it with enough money to retire and live comfortably.

The difference I see is the discipline. Those millions of kids learn discipline along the way. That translates to future goals.

Should kids only play a sport if they are going to be highly paid professionals as adults? Why?

[Dominik]

I see Durant's Warriors had a strong debut against the Spurs.

Pumped by 29.

[PapaBurgandy]

I see Durant's Warriors had a strong debut against the Spurs.

Pumped by 29.

I'm sure they'll get it together and have a fine season. I won't lie, it felt good watching that team get hammered by Popp and the boys.

[Orlando1234977]

I see Durant's Warriors had a strong debut against the Spurs.

Pumped by 29.

haha what a beta cuck.

Tonight is the Bucks opener with big Franky in town.

[Final_Rep]

Should kids only play a sport if they are going to be highly paid professionals as adults? Why?

course not. You learn teamwork, discipline, and I'm sure other valuable things even if you never make the pros.

[Dominik]

I'm sure they'll get it together and have a fine season. I won't lie, it felt good watching that team get hammered by Popp and the boys.

Missed the game but watched the highlights. Felt great.

If they fail hard this year it will send a strong message to other players thinking of pulling a KD.

LeBroner was crucified for taking his talents to South Beach with Bosh but he didn't go to a team he blew a 3-1 lead against in the playoffs nor was Miami a team making Finals — they'd had 4 crappy seasons since winning in '06.

In other news, you've got to feel for Anthony Davis. 50 points, 16 rebounds, seven steals, five assists and four blocked shots and still lost to... Denver.

[PapaBurgandy]

Missed the game but watched the highlights. Felt great.

If they fail hard this year it will send a strong message to other players thinking of pulling a KD.

LeBroner was crucified for taking his talents to South Beach with Bosh but he didn't go to a team he blew a 3-1 lead against in the playoffs nor was Miami a team making Finals — they'd had 4 crappy seasons since winning in '06.

In other news, you've got to feel for Anthony Davis. 50 points, 16 rebounds, seven steals, five assists and four blocked shots and still lost to... Denver.

A week from today, OKC plays at GOlden State, should be interesting. Russ may explode. It definitely sucks to be Anthony Davis. The good news is that he'll probably have a season ending injury any day now to ease his suffering.

[GREENFEATHER]

Same ole Rant, goddamn football and not much else.

[Orlando1234977]

Same ole Rant, goddamn football and not much else.

Lots of basketball talk on this page (although nba is boring until the playoffs, college hoops is way better), and Cubs fans are afraid to chat about the WS (I even poasted a Bartman reference lmap), and dems are afraid to talk politics, even with the "polls" showing a lead.