Very toxic Vinyl Chloride spill in a train derailment

[brumbleman]

because streams were so clean in the first place

Your tap is not connected directly to runoff

So you must not give a **** about littering either, chief?

Dip****.

[multiplemiggs]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...xic-derailment



**And we know form a previous post that the Norfolk Southern financial compensation was $1,000 which may have included waiving future liability.

Fuk that's sad. And yet they keep sending money off to Ukraine.

[Procta]

Mayor maternity leave Pete says since trains derail all the time... this instance in particular with the chemicals, leaking and the burn off is no big deal

Transportation Sec. Buttigieg on Toxic Ohio train derailment: "While this horrible situation has gotten a particularly high amount of attention, there are roughly 1,000 cases a year of a train derailing."
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/stat...24897260572676

because streams were so clean in the first place

Your tap is not connected directly to runoff

no one must have well / septic systems up there in OH

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...xic-derailment



**And we know form a previous post that the Norfolk Southern financial compensation was $1,000 which may have included waiving future liability.

so we will see how this plays out in 6 mths to a year if there is no concern for the area

thats about how long it takes for the news to start revealing more of the story.... kinda like all news... just takes time before the CTs start turning true

[DeputyDong5]

I have a close buddy that worked at CP rail (big canadian railway) for a while and can confirm that he told me train derailments happen ALL the time, you just never really get to hear about it


just some food for thought

what does this have to do with anything. Nobody cares. How often is a controlled burn of vinyl chloride appropriate? It's not necessarily the fact that it was done to prevent a boiling liquid evaporation explosion... it was the complete lack of transparency with the surrounding communities.

[RICHSTRONG]

The AP says it's no big deal...quit fear mongering OP!

https://apnews.com/article/fact-chec...p-411989877238

[miscHodor]

Fuk that's sad. And yet they keep sending money off to Ukraine.

Duh, the big guy isn't going to get his 10% from any fema money that gets sent. Ukraine is a much better money laundering scheme.

[FAPhaggot]

hmmm

Excess size caused train to break down in days before it derailed in Ohio, employees say

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ohio-tr...n-excess-size/

When Norfolk Southern train 32N derailed in Ohio earlier this month, it was not the first time it had experienced problems on the route.

The train, which originated from Madison, Illinois, on the evening of Feb. 1, broke down at least once before derailing in East Palestine, Ohio, on Feb. 3, according to employees familiar with the matter.

The employees say there were concerns among those working on the train over what they believed was the train's excessive length and weight — 151 cars, 9,300 feet long, 18,000 tons — before it reached East Palestine, which contributed to both the initial breakdown and the derailment.

In the two weeks since, many residents who were home at the time of the derailment, or who returned after authorities conducted a "toxic release" of the hazardous chemicals on board, have told CBS News they are suffering from headaches, rashes, respiratory problems and painful coughing.

"We shouldn't be running trains that are 150 car lengths long," one of the employees said. "There should be some limitations to the weight and the length of the trains. In this case, had the train not been 18,000 tons, it's very likely the effects of the derailment would have been mitigated."

CBS News has agreed not to name the employees because they fear retaliation by Norfolk Southern.

Norfolk Southern's CEO Alan Shaw declined an interview. In a statement to CBS News, a company spokesperson said "the weight distribution of this train was uniform throughout" and included a mid-train locomotive "which helps manage the dynamic forces of the train" and reduces mechanical issues.

"Assigning a 'reputation' to a train that fluctuates by thousands of tons on a regular basis is inaccurate," the spokesperson said of the observations about the train's length and weight, adding that a "longer and heavier train" used to run the route, before it was "split into two shorter, lighter trains in the past few month as part of a regular review."

Still, the train that derailed is considered to be "very long," according to Sarah Feinberg, who served as administrator of the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) from 2015 to 2017.

"When I was FRA administrator, I was not happy with the lengths of the trains, and they were 80 or 90 cars long," Feinberg said. "This train was 50% longer."

Feinberg said longer trains are more efficient for the railroad companies and its executives, but more challenging for the crews tasked with making repairs mid-route, a job that requires walking the length of the train to identify problems.

The employees described a system stretched to its limits.

"The workers are exhausted, times for car inspections have been drastically cut, and there are no regulations on the size of these trains," said one employee.

In East Palestine, 38 train cars derailed, causing a fire that damaged an additional 12 cars. On Sunday, Norfolk Southern gave the Environmental Protection Agency a list of train's contents that showed 11 of the cars that derailed carried hazardous material, including known carcinogens vinyl chloride and ethylhexyl acrylate.

The National Transportation Safety Board is currently investigating the derailment. In a statement Tuesday, the agency said it had "identified and examined the rail car that initiated the derailment," and cited surveillance video that "showed what appears to be a wheel bearing in the final stage of overheat failure moments before the derailment."

The derailment has shined a spotlight on Precision Schedule Railroading, or PSR, a strategy that has been widely adopted across the railroad industry and is intended to increase efficiency and reduce costs. Norfolk Southern implemented PSR in 2019.

According to a December report by the Government Accountability Office, PSR led to longer trains and an overall staff decrease of about 28% among the nation's seven largest freight railroads, which includes Norfolk Southern.

"The railroads want to decrease costs, and as they are decreasing costs, risks are generally increasing," Feinberg said.

PSR has led to fewer and shorter inspections of train cars, like the ones that derailed in Ohio, according to Jared Cassity, the national legislative director for one of the unions that represents Norfolk Southern workers.

"There's a good chance the car that derailed had not been properly inspected for some time," said Cassity, who added that the company says inspections of freight cars need to be completed in as little as 60 seconds. "You combine that with the added length and tonnage, plus the fact that it had all this hazardous material, and this was predictable. If nothing changes, it will happen again."

I've been saying this for a while. There have been no real productivity increases or innovation in the US economy for about 20 years. The main way companies "grow" now is to band together via mergers/acquisitions, then use monopoly power to squeeze their same old existing products harder.

This railroad wasn't hauling any more freight than it did in the past (no new productivity), so to grow profits, they just smashed together 2 existing trains to an unsafe length and bribed the Trump executive branch to make it legal.

And everyone on that board who came up with the idea for $1000 payouts to waive cancer liability lawsuits should be shot and dumped alongside the road.

[Procta]

The AP says it's no big deal...quit fear mongering OP!

https://apnews.com/article/fact-chec...p-411989877238

What are you spending your $1000 liability waiver cash on ?

[Procta]

And everyone on that board who came up with the idea for $1000 payouts to waive cancer liability lawsuits should be shot and dumped alongside the road.

[Maestro]

and then officials did a controlled burn of the vinyl chloride, because they feared a Boiling Liquid Vapor Explosion (BLEVE), which would have been exponentially worse? This chit has a boiling temp of 7F, that's hard for me to wrap my head around.

Surely there were chemical engineers on site to realize what happens when you burn vinyl chloride? I haven't used my O-chem knowledge in years and even I know hydrochloric acid is created as a result.

headline is super suspicious and doesn't make optical sense for the biden administration to do such a thing.

Apparently there's a protocol in place that the Governor of Ohio needs to formally declare a State of Emergency in order for the federal government to allocate funding to their state.

[Jms89]

hopefully a strong wind blowing east will carry it to chitholes on the east coast.

[RICHSTRONG]

hopefully a strong wind blowing east will carry it to chitholes on the east coast.

I've been good for the last week or so...been on this constantly

https://www.windy.com/-Show---add-mo....402,-75.682,5

[Procta]

If im going down Im going out like a G. Credit cards maxxed and bank drained. They'll find my body in Columbia under a thicc latina.


Fuuarrrkk..look at this water their boiling

https://twitter.com/i/status/1625780675646193665

Ohio Governor Mike Dewine:

"The water is safe to drink."

https://twitter.com/townhallcom/stat...15159039959041


Drink up! prolly taste a lil better after hotdogs were in it tho

[RICHSTRONG]

Ohio Governor Mike Dewine:

"The water is safe to drink."

https://twitter.com/townhallcom/stat...15159039959041


Drink up! prolly taste a lil better after hotdogs were in it tho

these tracks tho...got damn...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1626356622279819264

[Procta]

these tracks tho...got damn...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1626356622279819264

bro we have to send $100 billion to Ukraine...we just have to make tiny sacrifices along the way like not using any railroad ties

[dmike100]

Ohio Governor Mike Dewine:

"The water is safe to drink."

https://twitter.com/townhallcom/stat...15159039959041


Drink up! prolly taste a lil better after hotdogs were in it tho

We care about your health. Trust us.

[XcelerateNYC]

We care about your health. Trust us.

Not only do they not care, they literally want you dead.

Libs: why death is a good thing!

[Uhyeahokay]

Rich get down to the local creek and test is your water rainbow flag color. EPA sure as chit isn't going to go round testing.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1626563978720583683

[RICHSTRONG]

Rich get down to the local creek and test is your water rainbow flag color. EPA sure as chit isn't going to go round testing.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1626563978720583683

I'm just gonna hide my rainbow flag underwater and throw a rock in to make it float to the top. Not to rally against the railway company but to show my support for Procta and Floridians at large

[MarkyMark215]

JUST DRINK THE WATER, ITS PERFECTLY SAFE!!!

The water....

[Procta]

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/ea...action-lawsuit




"This Is Disgusting:" Ohio Senator Finds 'Toxic Chemicals' In East Palestine Water
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...alestine-water

[Procta]

[OptimusTrajan]

Our country is such a chithole. All the infrastructure money just gets poketed and stolen.

Reform is not possible under the current system.

[Procta]

Water looks like its trippin


https://twitter.com/nicksortor/statu...s2JC_GxIfy2aNQ

[kusok]

Just out of curiosity, what are those chemicals used for?

[yabbayabba]

Very troubling that Greta hasn't flown in on a private jet to protest all the environmental damage done.

[OptimusTrajan]

Just out of curiosity, what are those chemicals used for?

PVC I think.

[GooBaaa]

these tracks tho...got damn...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1626356622279819264

Still not worse than the roads tbh

[DeputyDong5]

Water looks like its trippin


https://twitter.com/nicksortor/statu...s2JC_GxIfy2aNQ

it's getting harder and harder to not laugh at the **** hole of a country America is becoming.

31T in debt and infrastructure like this.

[wickedman]

Our people are useless now. The more time passes, and the more useless people I see get produced in this country, I'm not surprised we get involved in all of these BS wars like the Ukraine - we have to live off the fact we have the biggest stick at this point. Have nothing else going for us.