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02-12-2023, 03:53 AM #151
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02-12-2023, 04:13 AM #152
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02-12-2023, 04:24 AM #153
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02-12-2023, 05:12 AM #154
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02-12-2023, 05:20 AM #155
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02-12-2023, 05:26 AM #156
hypothetical question for you guys:
I think the 10 point must system is stupid. a better system might be what percentage of the round a fighter won, or something along those lines. You adjust up the percentage for knockdowns or nearly finished submissions. Say it's out of 100.
Say one fighter won 4 rounds 55-45, then lost the last round 10-90. So total points would be 230 - 270. And the fighter loses the fight even though they won 4 rounds. Does that system make more sense? I think if 4 rounds are razor close and one fighter barely loses all 4 of them, but then dominates the last round, they won the fight.
Again not saying that's what happened here, but I think there was only one dominant round of the fight. I missed round 2 because of my ... internet... though.
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02-12-2023, 05:28 AM #157
Islam won 3-2, but Volk is better pound for pound.
Volk if he never made that mistake in R4 or never got staggered in R2 could've easily won (even some people still had Volk winning) despite being a FW while Islam kills himself to make LW and has the frame of a WW.
Reverse the sizes (make Volk 10 lbs bigger than Islam) and Volk would've utterly dominated.
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02-12-2023, 05:36 AM #158
Nah look at how Oliveira handled Poirier with wrestling/grappling. His TDD is poor and so is his ability to get back up. He has a good d'arce choke and good enough offensive wrestling to take down/gnp Conor, but I don't think he matches up well with Islam.
I give the wrestlers in the division a better chance. Islam has good striking, but he's chinny.
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02-12-2023, 05:36 AM #159
check out the fight stats: there's definitely an argument that volk won overall. 4 takedowns leading to no submissions attempts or strike advantage is worth... what? That's a flaw in the ufc rules imo. Takedowns doing no damage and having no submissions attempts should be worth less.
Volk landed more strikes, more significant strikes, and had the only knockdown.
Given current rules Islam won, but i'm not sure he really won the "fight".
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02-12-2023, 05:59 AM #160
The fight was very strange to score. I can't stand Islam but it wasn't a robbery. He won 3 rounds imo. At the same time, Volk looked like the better fighter in terms of skills and cardio. MMA judging is mostly based on damage these days and unfortunately for Volk, Islam timed him perfectly quite a few times and landed clean, eye catching shots. Volk even acknowledged most of them.
There's no way you can claim that Islam is #1 p4p now though. It makes no sense. An equally sized Volk obviously reks him badly.
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02-12-2023, 06:02 AM #161
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Agreed and I’m a huge Islam nut hugger. I knew Alex was great but I didn’t realize he was that great. He is amazing everywhere. The only separating factor was islam being able to handle volks striking power better than Volk was able to handle Islams. Islam had slightly more dominate grappling overall but Volk was right there with him the entire fight.
Run it back!no crew crew
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02-12-2023, 07:10 AM #162
Yeah, maybe not DP unless he works on his strength and late sub escapes. I'm going to throw out a really unpopular opinion here that I've never said out loud but for me Olives is wayyyy overrated. I haven't seen anyone question whether he actually was the #1 guy to take down Islam instead of Dariush. Like Islam said, he gives up very quickly if things are not going his way.
The only legit guys Olives rekt before Islam were DP & Gaethje. Since 2020 he took out Kevin Lee who had 3 losses out of 5 last fights before him, grandpa Tony and wild "I get caught by everyone" Chandler.
I'd like to see Fiziev get up there with Islam after Dariush or even a wild newcomer like Jalin Turner after a couple of wins.
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02-12-2023, 07:14 AM #163
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02-12-2023, 07:45 AM #164
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02-12-2023, 07:48 AM #165
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Did you watch the fight? There were atleast 4 knock downs, 2 to either fighter, Islam had sub attempts from the back, and the majority of volks strikes were meaningless taps when Islam was on his back and in the 5th round.
I was 4 to 1 for Islam but after watching the 2nd with volk getting the knock down and most damaging shot, I'd give 2 to volk. Same story for the 3rd except its Islam's. So 3 to 2 to Islam. It was good scoring. No robbery, no conspiracy, a close fight but the decision was correct.
Islam's jump in competition has been insane. This guy went from beating bobby green to beating arguably the best LW champion, to then beating the #1 p4p in their home country. Also the first time he's ever gone 5 rounds. That's Islam's last 3 fights. Bobby green to the #1 p4p.
Put some respect on his nameFck u james
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02-12-2023, 08:36 AM #166
After seeing these shocking stats I'm even more convinced of a total robbery. Unanimous decision my ass, the guy got punched nearly x2 more than he landed and spent the whole night walking backwards.
Judges who scored this contest need to be fired and sent to a restaurant to wash dishes. I suspect half of them are closet ****g0ts because they fancy some dude hugging another man for 25 minutes and that's all they need to be happy.
Islam got rekt in the stand up and on the ground. Volk was laughing and making hand gestures throughout the whole fight whenever that assface tried his pathetic choke attempts that were completely worthless. He even talked sh*t to him which was hilarious. All you need is to watch the end of 5th round to see the summary of this fight.
Oh yeah, btw, Volk is 4 inches shorter than him and went up a weight class to fight this fraud. Fuk'n lol
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02-12-2023, 08:39 AM #167
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02-12-2023, 09:34 AM #168
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02-12-2023, 10:19 AM #169
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02-12-2023, 10:28 AM #170
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02-12-2023, 10:56 AM #172
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02-12-2023, 10:58 AM #173
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02-12-2023, 11:01 AM #174
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02-12-2023, 11:12 AM #175
guys wrestling in MMA has never been "just wrestling" they always have been submitting people. Especially the khabib/islam type wrestlers, but even matt hughes types from way back have tons of submission wins. The point is the wrestlers are able to take BJJ prodigy guys down and not get submitted. They're able to control the fight.
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02-12-2023, 12:09 PM #176
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02-12-2023, 12:11 PM #177
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02-12-2023, 03:00 PM #178
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02-12-2023, 03:23 PM #179
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“Hugging him from behind” is the most dominant position to submit someone with. Those punches Alex was throwing behind his head is landing no power. Alex is lucky he has no neck because he couldn’t break free from the body triangle, majority of fw/lw is getting rnc in that positionwatchout your comments boyo ↓
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02-12-2023, 03:33 PM #180
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