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[pondus_levo]

42 texts!!! Will not know what that is like (sign....)

Also go NC on her. Ex for a reason.

The most I've ever gotten in one time was like 20-30.

Most of those are just alerts I get. I read them on the notification screen, but never go back and open them or delete them. Rest assured, I am not popular. :P

[Mr Beer]

LOL @ pondus's chick getting dumped and then reaching out to try and turn it around.

Joint custody must be a nightmare. Friend of mine has a young girl with a legit psycho ex-.

Her latest trick was to tell the cops that he molested her (the kid), no basis in fact so criminal charges were never laid, but it cost 6 figures to resolve in family court, ridiculous stress (police interviews, job suspension, court battles etc.) and not seeing his daughter for many months.

[Legz422]

LOL @ pondus's chick getting dumped and then reaching out to try and turn it around.

Joint custody must be a nightmare. Friend of mine has a legit psycho ex- and a young girl. Her latest trick was to tell the cops that he molested her (the kid), no basis in fact so criminal charges were never laid, but it cost 6 figures to resolve in family court, ridiculous stress (police interviews, job suspension, court battles etc.) and not seeing his daughter for many months.

Ugh! That is so terrible! That hurts your kid way more than the other parent. How do you do that to your own kid?

I never say anything bad about my ex to my son. The most I'll say is something like "that's your dad" when my son complains about him being late. Cause that's a big thing for my ex, his whole family jokes about it.

[Mr Beer]

Ugh! That is so terrible! That hurts your kid way more than the other parent. How do you do that to your own kid?

Sociopaths are selfish by definition. He suspects that she was trying a story-line on for size to see if it would fit her goals and it got away from her because of course her family weren't like 'OK cool let's strategise this news', they said 'Call. Cops. Now.' and it snowballed from there.

[Silencespeaks]

LOL @ pondus's chick getting dumped and then reaching out to try and turn it around.

Joint custody must be a nightmare. Friend of mine has a young girl with a legit psycho ex-.

Her latest trick was to tell the cops that he molested her (the kid), no basis in fact so criminal charges were never laid, but it cost 6 figures to resolve in family court, ridiculous stress (police interviews, job suspension, court battles etc.) and not seeing his daughter for many months.

Yes it’s terrifying. I went through pretty major emotional trauma myself with my ex. Can only imagine if kids were in the middle of all that.

And yes litigation is extremely expensive and doesn’t always resolve things fairly. People who think you can just take conflicts to court are so naive. Litigation is extremely expensive and extremely time consuming and stressful. And even then there is no guarantee of a fair resolution.

[Legz422]

Sociopaths are selfish by definition. He suspects that she was trying a story-line on for size to see if it would fit her goals and it got away from her because of course her family weren't like 'OK cool let's strategise this news', they said 'Call. Cops. Now.' and it snowballed from there.

Jeezus. Yeah I don't get it. Never will. Feel so bad for kids in those situations. My ex did a couple pretty fukked up things to my son during the divorce and I never bad mouthed him. I would go cry in private at my sons pain.

[Luc1fer]

There is never any point to that. Just because I have issues with something doesn't mean someone else will.

The list was pretty long, but the important thing is she said things in a way that made me feel like being me wasn't good enough. She needs someone that is more willing to compromise with her and be more understanding. I simply didn't want to deal with it.

Ye, depends on the person and if they can handle the feedback healthily. Clearly this woman is coping hard after being rejected, and her ego can't handle it. If you had pointed out the reasons, it would've been worse.

[BlackScorpio91]

This just reaffirms my belief to not get married.

[Silencespeaks]

This just reaffirms my belief to not get married.

Well it just depends who you marry. If you’re mutually in love and both emotionally mature honest loyal kind respectful good people, then marriage can be really wonderful.

[Luc1fer]

Well it just depends who you marry. If you’re mutually in love and both emotionally mature honest loyal kind respectful good people, then marriage can be really wonderful.

I agree with Silencespeaks.

[fishnbrah]

Ugh! That is so terrible! That hurts your kid way more than the other parent. How do you do that to your own kid?

I never say anything bad about my ex to my son. The most I'll say is something like "that's your dad" when my son complains about him being late. Cause that's a big thing for my ex, his whole family jokes about it.

i wonder what you do that the kid complains about and he says "thats your mom"

[fishnbrah]

if youre older than 30, why even get married

[Legz422]

i wonder what you do that the kid complains about and he says "thats your mom"

Who knows. It's not said out of malice and my ex respects me as a mother and knows that I'm a good mom. Just as I respect him as a father and know he's a good dad.

[fishnbrah]

Who knows. It's not said out of malice and my ex respects me as a mother and knows that I'm a good mom. Just as I respect him as a father and know he's a good dad.

do you wish you would have waited to have a kid with someone and raised them together instead of being a single mom

[Legz422]

do you wish you would have waited to have a kid with someone and raised them together instead of being a single mom

lol We got divorced when my son was 12. We raised him together for more than half his life. We also still raise him together, we work together to make sure he's healthy and happy.

[HayZues Christi]

lol We got divorced when my son was 12. We raised him together for more than half his life. We also still raise him together, we work together to make sure he's healthy and happy.

Cant be true.


All single mothers are the personification of evil and the sole source of societies crumbling moral structure.


Just ask the misc as they fap to preteens and trannys in their ivory towers.

[Legz422]

Cant be true.


All single mothers are the personification of evil and the sole source of societies crumbling moral structure.


Just ask the misc as they fap to preteens and trannys in their ivory towers.

Dang! You're right! What was I thinking????

lol

[Luc1fer]

Cant be true.


All single mothers are the personification of evil and the sole source of societies crumbling moral structure.


Just ask the misc as they fap to preteens and trannys in their ivory towers.

No WK’ing please

[DanielleGreen]

I know this is not sports misc, but Playoff hockey is so damn good! Best Monday night in a long time.

[Rebel012]

There is never any point to that. Just because I have issues with something doesn't mean someone else will.

The list was pretty long, but the important thing is she said things in a way that made me feel like being me wasn't good enough. She needs someone that is more willing to compromise with her and be more understanding. I simply didn't want to deal with it.

I really should have never even considered dating her. I gave her the benefit of the doubt, so to say I judged her and didn't give her a chance.... I gave her more of a chance than I have other women, but ultimately I knew I would have never been happy being in a relationship with her. She's neither a low quality woman or a bad person, just wasn't right for me. Ultimately it was a feeling, rather than "things," but I use the "things" now to rationalize my feelings. We had a lot of fun, but it never felt good or right to me. She's mad because she thinks I didn't give her enough time, but she should be thanking me for not wasting more of her time.

Whenever a woman breaks up with me. I'm always thankful for the chance I was given. I don't have to know why to get closure. I never have any ill will towards any of them. I accept that there's 100's things that go into a successful relationship and it's hard to find. A lot of it is even subconscious. And contrary to what SS thinks, I am actually more aware than most, which is part of the problem. I'm hyper aware of myself and my surroundings because of what I had to go through with my ex-wife. Ignorance truly is bliss.

This is a very healthy way to view break ups. I still sometimes struggle with the feeling of regret when dumped, lamenting that I wasn't given enough time, but once you accept that break ups are fundamentally about a loss of attraction due to a cumulation of factors and incompatible personality traits, then you also realize that dwelling on it is a waste of emotional energy. Best to spin it into a positive and accept that it saved you a lot of potentially wasted time.

One caveat though is that sometimes constructive feedback can be helpful, especially if you're open to using it for self-improvement.

[Luc1fer]

This is a very healthy way to view break ups. I still sometimes struggle with the feeling of regret when dumped, lamenting that I wasn't given enough time, but once you accept that break ups are fundamentally about a loss of attraction due to a cumulation of factors and incompatible personality traits, then you also realize that dwelling on it is a waste of emotional energy. Best to spin it into a positive and accept that it saved you a lot of potentially wasted time.

One caveat though is that sometimes constructive feedback can be helpful, especially if you're open to using it for self-improvement.

The last girl I dated actually gave me some constructive feedback. Of course when anyone gives you feedback, you should assess it as objectively as possible and whether or not you change or act on it is up to you.

But she said a bunch of things, and I immediately realized a couple of them I should work on. Some were just obvious incompatibilities.

[otakutrevan]

^^^


I know one of my biggest issues (imo its not an issue), but....creating "emotion", whether it be positive or negative. Pretty sure I said this awhile back, but my first girlfriend tried to make the claim I didnt care about her, and I literally blew up. Told her I drive hours every weekend to see her, smile in the faces of her rude friends, met her family, and etc. She tried to interrupt and I told her when she could look at the situation like an adult and stop acting like a child then we could talk.

She was literally smiling in the passenger seat of the car. Like...she enjoyed me yelling at her and dominating the conversation.

That type of **** is where I and perhaps Lucifer, Iamdetermined, and many more are failing. We stay too calm, and too rational in encounters with women whom may prefer a roller coaster of emotion they we simply don't spark. This could also explain the random ghosting when things are seemingly going right.

Also I've had several women irl that are educated admit this. And that is they'd rather feel "something" than "nothing", even if the something is drama or abuse.


Glad I'm a man boyyyyyyy lmao


EDIT : And this is why imo alot of guys that "do everything wrong" still seem to get women. They arent self aware, and then rinse in a lack of education and critical thought ? You get men that act on urges, impulses, and emotions. **** that stimulates women.

[Luc1fer]

^^^

I know one of my biggest issues (imo its not an issue), but....creating "emotion", whether it be positive or negative. Pretty sure I said this awhile back, but my first girlfriend tried to make the claim I didnt care about her, and I literally blew up. Told her I drive hours every weekend to see her, smile in the faces of her rude friends, met her family, and etc. She tried to interrupt and I told her when she could look at the situation like an adult and stop acting like a child then we could talk.

She was literally smiling in the passenger seat of the car. Like...she enjoyed me yelling at her and dominating the conversation.

That type of **** is where I and perhaps Lucifer, Iamdetermined, and many more are failing. We stay too calm, and too rational in encounters with women whom may prefer a roller coaster of emotion they we simply don't spark. This could also explain the random ghosting when things are seemingly going right.

Also I've had several women irl that are educated admit this. And that is they'd rather feel "something" than "nothing", even if the something is drama or abuse.

Glad I'm a man boyyyyyyy lmao

Damn, that's so true. I think it's fukked up women create these situations though. And boy, I think there's a LOT of them out there -- sometimes I even think it might be the majority.

They are also very socially clever, and know exactly how to manipulate situations to invoke an emotional reaction.

It struck me when you said it almost seemed like there was joy within her as you got really emotional. I felt the same way sometimes with my ex, and that made me even more frustrated. It wasn't smiling, but almost like a... comfort. Like she derived some comfort from an emotionally charged situation, since it likely emulated her chaotic childhood environment.

[otakutrevan]

Damn, that's so true. I think it's fukked up women create these situations though. And boy, I think there's a LOT of them out there -- sometimes I even think it might be the majority.

They are also very socially clever, and know exactly how to manipulate situations to invoke an emotional reaction.

It struck me when you said it almost seemed like there was joy within her as you got really emotional. I felt the same way sometimes with my ex, and that made me even more frustrated. It wasn't smiling, but almost like a... comfort. Like she derived some comfort from an emotionally charged situation, since it likely emulated her chaotic childhood environment.

I dont think its due to childhood trauma or etc. Its just how women are. Talk to any bodybuilder that usesing orange juice or a trans woman. Once their hormones change their thoughts and feelings change. Randomly crying, feeling sad, or angry. Contrary to the regressive left men and women are not the same and medical studies show that hormones directly affect our actions.

An emotional man has...I would say historically been an important man. A man that can inspire the tribe to pick up swords and fight. A man that can mold younger generations. A man that can sway crowds. Logic and facts mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. Can you make people FEEL things ? Can you give them hope ?

Yeah man she was legit giddy that I told her stfu, called her a child, and to only talk when she can be an adult. Girl was probably dripping.

Next girl I talk to I'm gonna shake stuff up by creating mild stupid drama just to see how it goes.

[Rabbitjb]

Or maybe she smiled because in your anger you were able to express some level of care, or acknowledgement of giving a fuk

She probably didn’t realise your “physical signs of affection” were any effort

She accused you of not caring, you spoke about all the things you did that proved you care, she hadn’t realised that was care.

Some people recognise love through words, others physical contact, others unspoken actions. I bet there’s some book somewhere about this chite

Personally not fond of emotional roller coasters and I rarely get into arguments

[damlurker550]

damlurker, you basically self-sabotaged yourself multiple times. At some point you gotta just bite the bullet. Go on Tinder or some app and just meet with a girl, even if she’s a bit less attractive.

You’ll know it’s short term, so you’ll have nothing to lose except gain some experience.

yeah i knw.. I should try online. it's probably only thing that will work for someone like me.
I'd never have considered it in the past, not being white, being Indian (technically sri lankan) plus groce looking and fat. didn't know how to dress properly either

But past few years the way I look has changed significantly imo

from:


Classic damlurker FA Prophet


to now

Mind blown how this is even possible. Makes me wonder how you were raised.

Massively overprotective parents + only child, had a quite a socially isolated childhood.
I also went to an all boys school until age 16. My last two years of HS were in a new co-ed school however.

Add to this that I did very well academically and always at the top of my class, plus I was a big fat mean kid who took no chit from anyone (I never started fights, never picked on anyone, but if anyone ever even slightly messed with me I'd hurt them pretty bad).
This lead to my relatively wealthy parents giving me whatever I wanted (as long as my grades were good), and them and my teachers (who also only cared about my grades) turning a blind eye to my violent anti-social tendencies (heck i almost assaulted a teacher once but nothing happened apart from me having to apologise).

Most kids thought I was psycho and just kept out of my way by the time I was 16.

Plus it built up my ego of getting whatever I wanted without having to socially interact with people or be nice.

Sure I graduated high-school 2nd highest in my class, had the highest SAT and SATII scores of my grade and got a full scholarship to do Engineering in the states (my parents covered all living expenses as well), but as anyone would have expected I crashed hard out there in the real world in college..

[Luc1fer]

She accused you of not caring, you spoke about all the things you did that proved you care, she hadn’t realised that was care.

Some people recognise love through words, others physical contact, others unspoken actions. I bet there’s some book somewhere about this chite

Yes those people are idiots, feelz > actions. Words don't count for chit, this is how women repeatedly get manipulated by players.

Otaku, so she would've felt like you cared more if you never did all those actions for her, but instead just said some words to make her feel warm and fuzzy inside.

[Rabbitjb]

Yes those people are idiots, feelz > actions. Words don't count for chit, this is how women repeatedly get manipulated by players.

Otaku, so she would've felt like you cared more if you never did all those actions for her, but instead just said some words to make her feel warm and fuzzy inside.

only they aren't

they speak a different language to you

you define them as idiots because you can't translate or empathise

it's not my style either but I can try to understand

[Legz422]

Or maybe she smiled because in your anger you were able to express some level of care, or acknowledgement of giving a fuk

She probably didn’t realise your “physical signs of affection” were any effort

She accused you of not caring, you spoke about all the things you did that proved you care, she hadn’t realised that was care.

Some people recognise love through words, others physical contact, others unspoken actions. I bet there’s some book somewhere about this chite

Personally not fond of emotional roller coasters and I rarely get into arguments

There is a book. It's Love Languages.

[jacemano]

^^^


I know one of my biggest issues (imo its not an issue), but....creating "emotion", whether it be positive or negative. Pretty sure I said this awhile back, but my first girlfriend tried to make the claim I didnt care about her, and I literally blew up. Told her I drive hours every weekend to see her, smile in the faces of her rude friends, met her family, and etc. She tried to interrupt and I told her when she could look at the situation like an adult and stop acting like a child then we could talk.

She was literally smiling in the passenger seat of the car. Like...she enjoyed me yelling at her and dominating the conversation.

That type of **** is where I and perhaps Lucifer, Iamdetermined, and many more are failing. We stay too calm, and too rational in encounters with women whom may prefer a roller coaster of emotion they we simply don't spark. This could also explain the random ghosting when things are seemingly going right.

Also I've had several women irl that are educated admit this. And that is they'd rather feel "something" than "nothing", even if the something is drama or abuse.


Glad I'm a man boyyyyyyy lmao


EDIT : And this is why imo alot of guys that "do everything wrong" still seem to get women. They arent self aware, and then rinse in a lack of education and critical thought ? You get men that act on urges, impulses, and emotions. **** that stimulates women.

This is the crux of it.

The opposite of love isn't hate. It's indifference.

You know what you should try, go out sometime and say what's REALLY on your mind to some girls. Should be fun