★Early bird fantasy football discussion 2018 ★

[Fiz-iks]

Who believes that? A-Rob was a 1st/high 2nd pick 2 years ago after his monster year. You'd have to be pretty autistic to even consider him that high now.

He's being drafted as the WR21 right now. People are expecting him to be an every week starter with the potential for much much more. He's going ahead of guys like Tate, Hogan, Cooks, Jones, Crabtree, Watkins, Sanders. Personally, I think Arob is being drafted 2-3 rounds ahead of where he should be.

[kids.got.soul]

Joe Mixon. Going early 3rd round.

Thoughts on him at that draft position?

Gio is still there to steal passing down work and they drafted RB Mark Walton in the 4th rd.

Hard pass. I think Gio is intriguing as a late round PPR RB dart throw though.

[Fiz-iks]

Keeping sleeping on Mixon! I like that he's underrated this year.

[Murph0408]

Keeping sleeping on Mixon! I like that he's underrated this year.

i think he's right where he belongs. i don't think being drafted as a solid RB2 makes him underrated, unless you think he belongs in the first 15-20 picks?

[Jayarbie]

He's being drafted as the WR21 right now. People are expecting him to be an every week starter with the potential for much much more. He's going ahead of guys like Tate, Hogan, Cooks, Jones, Crabtree, Watkins, Sanders. Personally, I think Arob is being drafted 2-3 rounds ahead of where he should be.

That is a little high, but it's still not expecting him to step into his form he had 3 years ago. That form led to an ADP as WR3 or WR4, not WR21. WR21 is probably a little closer to his form 2 years ago, which was 73-883-6. That was "disappointing" because everyone who drafted him that year was expecting WR1 numbers, which those are not, but it's not bad output for a WR2/3 type player.

The other guys you mentioned with him all have significant questions:
Tate: competing with Jones, has Golladay emerging
Hogan: never a top flight WR, will be #2 WR once Edelman return (and has to compete with Gronk)
Cooks: competing with both Woods and Kupp who were both high volume receivers last year.
Jones: see Tate
Crabtree: hasn't been a #1 for several years, new team that doesn't usually feature WRs
Watkins: has sucked for years
Sanders: #2 WR on team

[Fiz-iks]

i think he's right where he belongs. i don't think being drafted as a solid RB2 makes him underrated, unless you think he belongs in the first 15-20 picks?

Yeah, that's true. His ADP is fine - I just seem to see a lot of people talking about avoiding him.

[Jayarbie]

Yeah, that's true. His ADP is fine - I just seem to see a lot of people talking about avoiding him.

I think people are avoiding him because they were expecting him to take hold of that backfield last year and he sucked when given the opportunity. He is definitely a high ceiling break out candidate, but also someone with a lower floor and higher bust chance than others drafted around him, so it depends on your personal opinion of him and your level of risk aversion.

[HayZues Christi]

10 team ppr.

A series of pre draft trades has left me with no 1st round pick, but I have 16th, 17th, 22nd, and 24th picks. Along with 3 5th rounders.

Who would you be targeting at those picks? If McCaffrey doesn't last until 16, I really don't love any of the remaining RBs....

[weightsb4dates]

I think people are avoiding him because they were expecting him to take hold of that backfield last year and he sucked when given the opportunity. He is definitely a high ceiling break out candidate, but also someone with a lower floor and higher bust chance than others drafted around him, so it depends on your personal opinion of him and your level of risk aversion.

This. He should be a stud on paper but last year he just looked bad. im wishy washy on him.

Another guy im wishy washy on is Sammy Watkins. I want the guy to be good and i think he can, but i feel like mahomes and Tyreek are gonna have a connection. tyreek seems to be one of the most polarizing players for fantasy this year, but with his speed and athletic ability its hard to deny that he has a better than 50% chance to be a wr1 again.

[weightsb4dates]

10 team ppr.

A series of pre draft trades has left me with no 1st round pick, but I have 16th, 17th, 22nd, and 24th picks. Along with 3 5th rounders.

Who would you be targeting at those picks? If McCaffrey doesn't last until 16, I really don't love any of the remaining RBs....

freeman, howard, mckinnon, if you're lucky fournette, hunt

edit: in other news AP just signed with the skins

[HayZues Christi]

freeman, howard, mckinnon, if you're lucky fournette, hunt

Can't draft Howard as a bears fan. Hate caring how bears move the ball or or, just want them to do it.

What about shady?

I'm thinking about trading that 24th pick for a couple picks in 50s.

[bullybreed]

Adrian Peterson has signed a 1 year deal with the Redskins - per Adam Shefter

[weightsb4dates]

Can't draft Howard as a bears fan. Hate caring how bears move the ball or or, just want them to do it.

What about shady?

I'm thinking about trading that 24th pick for a couple picks in 50s.

Shady is a guy im avoiding this year

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personally if i was in a 10 teamer, and had those pics, one guy id be targeting in the later part of the 2nd or early third would be gronk, figure you coume out of thsoe first 4 picks with an rb, gronk, and two top 8 wide receievers, youve gotta be pretty pleased. then target someone like collins or ajayi in the next round, and try and grab ingram in the 5th or 6th. after the suspension you would be looking pretty strong

[PolishPhenom]

Who would you guys keep between Garapollo and Luck. Its a dynasty / keeper league obviously. Its a 2qb auction draft league.

[Fiz-iks]

10 team ppr.

A series of pre draft trades has left me with no 1st round pick, but I have 16th, 17th, 22nd, and 24th picks. Along with 3 5th rounders.

Who would you be targeting at those picks? If McCaffrey doesn't last until 16, I really don't love any of the remaining RBs....

With the three 5th rounders I think you can afford to go WR heavy, especially if you don't have any interest in Freeman, Mixon, McKinnon, etc. You could get Thomas, Allen, Green and Evans (or Hilton/Diggs if one of these guys are gone). Then take something like Ajayi, Drake and Miller in the 5th.

What are your late round picks like?

[yuja]

Who would you guys keep between Garapollo and Luck. Its a dynasty / keeper league obviously. Its a 2qb auction draft league.

probably Luck

[HayZues Christi]

With the three 5th rounders I think you can afford to go WR heavy, especially if you don't have any interest in Freeman, Mixon, McKinnon, etc. You could get Thomas, Allen, Green and Evans (or Hilton/Diggs if one of these guys are gone). Then take something like Ajayi, Drake and Miller in the 5th.

What are your late round picks like?

Def been considering go wr/wr with 16 and 17 if McCaffrey gone.

I don't have a 4th/ 7th/14th/15th.

I do have 2 9th rounders.
Rounders. 16 rounds total.

A perfect scenario would be mccaffrey/wr/wr/gronk.

Then use all my 5th round capital on RBS like miller, Collins, Derrick henry.

I almost never draft a qb.

[Jayarbie]

Mixon is a stud. Anybody that actually watched him play know he’s really good. He’s LeVeon Bell lite.

Problem is that his line and the offense in general was trash. Potential that the line is improved this season but hard to say for sure. If it is he will be good.

He’s really, really special on film.

Not a Bengals fan and he’s not the kindest human being but I respect his game. His fantasy value is tough to say right now.

Mixon is nowhere near Bell's league. Bell was doing it when the Steelers line was banged up and weak.

[weightsb4dates]

Mixon is a stud. Anybody that actually watched him play know he’s really good. He’s LeVeon Bell lite.

Problem is that his line and the offense in general was trash. Potential that the line is improved this season but hard to say for sure. If it is he will be good.

He’s really, really special on film.

Not a Bengals fan and he’s not the kindest human being but I respect his game. His fantasy value is tough to say right now.

Mixons has the same problem alot of the young guys have. Hes too sold on himself and his athleticism to accept a 2-3 yard run, and tries to go outside if theres not a clear running lane up the center. ends up losing yardage. I dont doubt that he has the talent, but he has to learn that not every run is gonna be a break away. This is gonna be barkleys problem too, I can already see it.

[heavenlyblest1]

Would you rather have picks 40 and 64 or picks 27 and 107 ?

[yuja]

Would you rather have picks 40 and 64 or picks 27 and 107 ?

40 & 67

[HayZues Christi]

40 and 67.


Unless somebody like Gronkowski or Mike Evans somehow fell to 27, I'd feel just the same about Lamar miller @ 40 as I would Mixon at 27.

Marquise Goodwin or something at 64 > whatever left at 107.

I'll take 2 dart throws in miller and goodwin over the single dart at 27.

[heavenlyblest1]

Thank you for confirming my thinking brahs! ^ Raped you both

[heavenlyblest1]

Okay, hopefully this isn't annoying, but....

Would you rather trade:

A) 27 and 107 to receive 40 and 64

or

B) 27 and 177 to receive 50 and 70

[Fiz-iks]

Mixon is a stud. Anybody that actually watched him play know he’s really good. He’s LeVeon Bell lite.

Problem is that his line and the offense in general was trash. Potential that the line is improved this season but hard to say for sure. If it is he will be good.

He’s really, really special on film.

Not a Bengals fan and he’s not the kindest human being but I respect his game. His fantasy value is tough to say right now.

Mixon truthers unite!

[HayZues Christi]

Okay, hopefully this isn't annoying, but....

Would you rather trade:

A) 27 and 107 to receive 40 and 64

or

B) 27 and 177 to receive 50 and 70

B for sure. Same reasoning as above. Usually by pick 40 I'm reaching for guys I like well down the list, so pick 64 and pick 70 are the same to me.

177 a throw away.

Only downfall is you have less flexibility when it comes to waivers as you're not going to want to drop 50 and 70 the same as 1uy.

[HayZues Christi]

To back up what I said, according to Footbalk Guys trade calculator you’d be making a 12% improvement on trade A and a 9% improvement on trade B.

Either way you should take the deal.

My only disagreement is that I think I'm getting the same calibur guy at 46 or 50. Same with 64 and 70. Honestly prob the same guy.

Now at 107 there are still guys I'd like to take a flyer on like cam meredith, Marlon mack, jack doyle. Or even a strong handcuff like matt brieda.

177 is a wasteland of kickers and wr7s.

[BeastinFitness]

Who are you guys targeting in terms of QBs this year, besides the obvious Brady and Rodgers which usually get drafted early.

[blinkers88]

Who are you guys targeting in terms of QBs this year, besides the obvious Brady and Rodgers which usually get drafted early.

If I can get Jimmy G in the later rounds I'll be one happy camper

[pl_powr]

Mixon or a WR like Diggs or TY? Standard scoring.

Hoping my decision is made for me but have a feeling those will all be options @#27/3rd rd pick.