★Early bird fantasy football discussion 2019★

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

If Nagy pulls his head out of his butt, Montgomery will get 15-20 touches moving forward.

Hope so. He is a strong runner, and talent wise, he's unmatched in that backfield. Some of the coaching decisions you see in the NFL are mind boggling however. For instance two years ago where Demarco Murray was a shell of himself, and Titans kept running him and kept Henry on the sideline for weeks......

[bullybreed]

If Nagy pulls his head out of his butt, Montgomery will get 15-20 touches moving forward.

This. Denver's rush defense was bottom half of the league last year at 120 ypg. Fangio may improve that, but it remains to be seen. I would expect a lot of Montgomery next week or at least hope for it. I feel like I want to bench Monty to wait and see, but then also feel like that means he ends up with like 90 yards and a td if I do lol

[Jayarbie]

So on the Justice Hill hype train, would you drop any of the following for him?

Curtis Samuel
McCoy
Coutee

Rest of my bench is Boyd, Sanders, Damien Williams and Gallup. Don't want to part with those.

Right now, I'm at the station, I guess, but I'm not getting on the hype train until I see something.

[Blasting]

Nagy called a terrible game offensively. That has nothing to do with Montgomery being ready for a heavy workload or not. When Montgomery got the chance to run, he looked good. When he was at Iowa State he was more than capable of a heavy workload.

If the Cowboys decided to throw 45 times in a game and only give Zeke 6 carries, do you think he would be productive?

Montgomery isn’t Zeke lol

Zeke has proven to be an elite player. We don’t know what’s going on in practice. Maybe Montgomery has struggled blocking in practice. There’s reasons behind the scenes for coaches to not have trust in players. Maybe they think he’s reckless with the ball.

[bullybreed]

Montgomery isn’t Zeke lol

Zeke has proven to be an elite player. We don’t know what’s going on in practice. Maybe Montgomery has struggled blocking in practice. There’s reasons behind the scenes for coaches to not have trust in players. Maybe they think he’s reckless with the ball.

He hasn't been.

And if you watched the entire game last night, Davis missed a few blocks that allowed quick edge pressure on Mitch.

[Blasting]

He hasn't been.

And if you watched the entire game last night, Davis missed a few blocks that allowed quick edge pressure on Mitch.

So the guy that you Bears fans have been touting as a smart offensive mind just got dumb last night? Or what?

[bullybreed]

So the guy that you Bears fans have been touting as a smart offensive mind just got dumb last night? Or what?

What do you mean "us Bears fans". He is a smart offensive mind. It's not just Bear fans who think that. He got out schemed last night by Petine. Plain and simple. Sometimes I feel he gets too creative for his own good. Much like last night they start the game with Cohen, Davis, and Montgomery in the backfield. Move everyone around and try to trick Petine right off the bat. It backfired and they never gained control back of the game. That was the worst game I've ever seen him coach. I feel he gets it corrected and has a better game in Denver next week even though it will be tough to win there.

You act like hes the only coach ever to have a bad game. He won coach of the year last year for fuks sake lol.

[TyGuy505]

So on the Justice Hill hype train, would you drop any of the following for him?

Curtis Samuel
McCoy
Coutee

Rest of my bench is Boyd, Sanders, Damien Williams and Gallup. Don't want to part with those.

Coutee

[yuja]

What do you mean "us Bears fans". He is a smart offensive mind. It's not just Bear fans who think that. He got out schemed last night by Petine. Plain and simple. Sometimes I feel he gets too creative for his own good. Much like last night they start the game with Cohen, Davis, and Montgomery in the backfield. Move everyone around and try to trick Petine right off the bat. It backfired and they never gained control back of the game. That was the worst game I've ever seen him coach. I feel he gets it corrected and has a better game in Denver next week even though it will be tough to win there.

You act like hes the only coach ever to have a bad game. He won coach of the year last year for fuks sake lol.

so packers defense elite this year?

they gonna be last years bears, waiver #1 this week!11!

/semi s

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

We keep talking about the Bears here, but not exactly the best debut for Rodgers and his new OC. Pretty boring gameplan minus the TD drive. It almost seemed like Rodgers said " Fuk it" and went into that drive calling his own plays.

[Blasting]

What do you mean "us Bears fans". He is a smart offensive mind. It's not just Bear fans who think that. He got out schemed last night by Petine. Plain and simple. Sometimes I feel he gets too creative for his own good. Much like last night they start the game with Cohen, Davis, and Montgomery in the backfield. Move everyone around and try to trick Petine right off the bat. It backfired and they never gained control back of the game. That was the worst game I've ever seen him coach. I feel he gets it corrected and has a better game in Denver next week even though it will be tough to win there.

You act like hes the only coach ever to have a bad game. He won coach of the year last year for fuks sake lol.

I think he’s smart too. My point is that maybe he knows more than you. Maybe there’s something about Montgomery he doesn’t like. And this whole thing where an offense struggles and people pretend they could’ve called a better game is a joke. It’s been going on for years but it’s getting worse and worse.

As for as coach of the year award, who cares? Let me know how many of those awards Belicheck has won.

[Jayarbie]

so packers defense elite this year?

they gonna be last years bears, waiver #1 this week!11!

/semi s

The Packers D did look night and day better. They have some serious playmakers this year. It's certainly not time to freak out about them (or any defense, LOL), but they're certainly in the mix for FAAB leagues if you don't want to burn FA money streaming.

[yuja]

I think he’s smart too. My point is that maybe he knows more than you. Maybe there’s something about Montgomery he doesn’t like. And this whole thing where an offense struggles and people pretend they could’ve called a better game is a joke. It’s been going on for years but it’s getting worse and worse.

As for as coach of the year award, who cares? Let me know how many of those awards Belicheck has won.

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[Madvillainy]

i like montgomery and think he's the most talented back in that backfield for sure, but it's tough to trust him at all in that anemic offense. interestingly, they basically used cohen almost exclusively as a slot receiver, so i don't think he'll eat away at montgomery much, but davis is the clear preference for passing situations with his blocking ability, so i don't think montgomery will get to showcase his receiving ability all that much. could be a good buy low candidate considering the bears passed a ridiculous amount in a close game and it's tough to imagine them doing that again, but you still can't trust him at all.

[bullybreed]

I think he’s smart too. My point is that maybe he knows more than you. Maybe there’s something about Montgomery he doesn’t like. And this whole thing where an offense struggles and people pretend they could’ve called a better game is a joke. It’s been going on for years but it’s getting worse and worse.

As for as coach of the year award, who cares? Let me know how many of those awards Belicheck has won.

It's not rocket science.

It was a 4 point game for 3.5 quarters. He called 48 pass plays. Mitch attempted 45 of those and scrambled on 3 others. Mitch was under pressure all night. Packers played dime nearly the entire night. At one point they ran 30 straight plays without a single run......

5 rushes for Davis
6 for Montgomery
1 for Patterson

I don't care who you are, what team you like, who your coach is..............48 pass plays in a 4 point game against 6 DBs playing dime all game and 12 run plays is not a winning formula. Obviously because they scored a whole 3 points.

[weightsb4dates]

Breesus was a running threat 2 years ago? Man how times have changed.

No, but Kamara came in and was behind Ingram and AP. Kamara was seen as undersized, and a non-bell cow because he played behind jaylen hurt at Tenessee (after he left alabama, went to coffyville CC, and back to D1), but he had similar charecteristics to what Justice Hill has now. burst, balance, footwork, great hands, and hard to tackle. Now im not saying Hill is going to be as good as Kamara, but i think he will have a job in the backfield beyond just a change of pace guy. It may take a few weeks, but it will come.

So on the Justice Hill hype train, would you drop any of the following for him?

Curtis Samuel
McCoy
Coutee

Rest of my bench is Boyd, Sanders, Damien Williams and Gallup. Don't want to part with those.

I would drop coutee. injured, and now competing with DJJ and Stills as well.

[bullybreed]

i like montgomery and think he's the most talented back in that backfield for sure, but it's tough to trust him at all in that anemic offense. interestingly, they basically used cohen almost exclusively as a slot receiver, so i don't think he'll eat away at montgomery much, but davis is the clear preference for passing situations with his blocking ability, so i don't think montgomery will get to showcase his receiving ability all that much. could be a good buy low candidate considering the bears passed a ridiculous amount in a close game and it's tough to imagine them doing that again, but you still can't trust him at all.

Maybe for this particular game, but I'd bet that changes. I saw a few times last night he just stood back there not knowing who to block. Mitch was sacked as a result.

[yuja]

AB with the apology

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Half as many Super Bowls as he won, nice.

It's not rocket science.

It was a 4 point game for 3.5 quarters. He called 48 pass plays. Mitch attempted 45 of those and scrambled on 3 others. Mitch was under pressure all night. Packers played dime nearly the entire night. At one point I believe he threw 16 straight times without a single run..........

5 rushes for Davis
6 for Montgomery
1 for Patterson

I don't care who you are, what team you like, who your coach is..............48 pass plays in a 4 point game against 6 DBs playing dime all game and 12 run plays is not a winning formula. Obviously because they scored a whole 3 points.

Maybe you’re right, maybe he called a horrible game and you would’ve done better.

But I just don’t get the idea that Montgomery was popping off the screen and Nagy just didn’t see it. I’ve seen rookies like Zeke, Mixon, and Barkley come in and flash right away things that most other backs can’t do. They forced their teams to get them the ball. I didn’t see any of that from Montgomery. He could still be awesome but I just think people got carried away with a Big 12 back that got drafted in the third round who still has one of the best receiving backs in the league in his backfield, in an offense that isn’t close to elite.

[Jayarbie]

Half as many Super Bowls as he won, nice.



Maybe you’re right, maybe he called a horrible game and you would’ve done better.

But I just don’t get the idea that Montgomery was popping off the screen and Nagy just didn’t see it. I’ve seen rookies like Zeke, Mixon, and Barkley come in and flash right away things that most other backs can’t do. They forced their teams to get them the ball. I didn’t see any of that from Montgomery. He could still be awesome but I just think people got carried away with a Big 12 back that got drafted in the third round who still has one of the best receiving backs in the league in his backfield, in an offense that isn’t close to elite.

Zeke & Barkley, sure, but they were top 3 overall picks, too. Mixon barely played his first couple games and started popping off only when he was actually inserted in the lineup.

[bullybreed]

Half as many Super Bowls as he won, nice.



Maybe you’re right, maybe he called a horrible game and you would’ve done better.

But I just don’t get the idea that Montgomery was popping off the screen and Nagy just didn’t see it. I’ve seen rookies like Zeke, Mixon, and Barkley come in and flash right away things that most other backs can’t do. They forced their teams to get them the ball. I didn’t see any of that from Montgomery. He could still be awesome but I just think people got carried away with a Big 12 back that got drafted in the third round who still has one of the best receiving backs in the league in his backfield, in an offense that isn’t close to elite.

Not what I'm saying at all....but I'm not the only one saying this either. It was pretty widely stated throughout the game from literally everyone that they needed to run the ball and even more so after the game is now over, but it is what it is now.

[Madvillainy]

Maybe for this particular game, but I'd bet that changes. I saw a few times last night he just stood back there not knowing who to block. Mitch was sacked as a result.

PFF had his as the highest graded pass blocker on the team last night

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

AB with the apology

I wish Mayock would tell him to shove it, and suspend him anyway.

[bullybreed]

PFF had his as the highest graded pass blocker on the team last night

Great.........more PFF grades

[bullybreed]

I wish Mayock would tell him to shove it, and suspend him anyway.

Would love to see that.

[TyGuy505]

We keep talking about the Bears here, but not exactly the best debut for Rodgers and his new OC. Pretty boring gameplan minus the TD drive. It almost seemed like Rodgers said " Fuk it" and went into that drive calling his own plays.

New offense, no preseason reps, and against the best front 7 in the league. Hard to really take anything away from it other than a bad game against a good defense.

[Jayarbie]

I wish Mayock would tell him to shove it, and suspend him anyway.

I agree. This isn't going to go away if all he has to do is apologize with a couple crocodile tears and then everything is peachy again. I'd suspend him to void the guarantees and tell him he has one more chance now that they can cut him without having to pay him. Hopefully, the threat of losing $30m will keep him in line (or $30m minus whatever he'd sign for as a FA, which will be nowhere even close to $30m after quitting on his former team, 4 off-field incidents, freezing his feet off, suing the league over his helmet, and then calling out, insulting, and eventually verbally threatening his GM - all in the course of a year).

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

Would love to see that.

Honestly, he should. If this was Belichick, Brown would probably be packing his bags already. It's a terrible example to the rest of the team who is actually working hard, attending practice and preparing for the season.

Raiders are not in "win now" mode, and while losing AB would make them weaker on paper, it would be much better for team chemistry.

[Murph0408]

According to ESPN's Josina Anderson, Antonio Brown delivered an "emotional apology" at a team meeting Friday morning.

Source: #Raiders WR Antonio Brown just issued “an emotional apology” at a team meeting this morning, just now, “with team captains standing with him.”

tell you what. it's not over. like i said a couple posts ago, an apology would create even more drama BUT possibly solve this.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

tell you what. it's not over. like i said a couple posts ago, an apology would create even more drama BUT possibly solve this.

If this blows over, which I fully expect, I 100% believe in a few weeks there will be another incident, my guess him flipping out on the sidelines because he isn't getting his targets or something.