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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    Agree with this. Keeping nutrition in check, train to get stronger, and don't try to be shredded will work wonders over the long term.
    just a nice-medium...the long-term option of getting heavier is there (but also taking your time with gaining weight so at least some of it is muscle)

    i'm not on that maxx chewning time or purposely trying to be skinny

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    Originally Posted by ErickStevens View Post
    The natty struggle is real. I don't expect some of you to understand...
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    Originally Posted by ErickStevens View Post
    The natty struggle is real. I don't expect some of you to understand...
    das it mane :/

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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    Gotta be willing to have some padding.
    More cushion for the pushin'.
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    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    You're also over 200lbs.

    I'm not saying to go be a fut fuk but trying to stay super lean at such a light weight won't allow someone to really fulfill the potential to both be strong and have the muscle mass to be a sickkunt. Sure they can be misc aesthetic but that's lose lose.
    Say I total 1400+ in November at 181. What true motivation is there to bulk up? Why not walk ~~188 and water cut week out to make 83 kgs? No true average height natty is realistically walking 190+ at 8% anyways. Especially since I have 2 more raw nationals as a junior since I'm a Dec 1992 b'day.

    1400@180 vs 1500@203 is essentially the same wilks.

    I understand bulking up if you plateau hard, but if someone seems to still be gaining strength why not just run with it?













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    Originally Posted by ErickStevens View Post
    I get what he's saying too. He just sounds like a woman when he says it.
    lol

    Originally Posted by invain View Post
    I like being a shredded sickkunt and having the absolute most lean mass possible for the weight class I'm competing in.

    Who's mad?
    I've gotta say I'm the leanest I've ever been (not close to shredded though) and I definitely am way happier and enjoying summer more.

    Originally Posted by Hamzzza View Post
    i hated my body when i was at 220 last time...this time around i'll have a lot more muscle ( 2 years difference) so i should be significantly leaner


    i like keeping a nice medium between leanness and strength...and eating all you can isn't the alpha&omega of getting stronger either - proper training is the most important variable here imo
    Yea I just want to stay 10-12%ish year round.
    Originally Posted by Jason2459 View Post
    Agree with this. Keeping nutrition in check, train to get stronger, and don't try to be shredded will work wonders over the long term.
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    Originally Posted by romanabramovich View Post
    Say I total 1400+ in November at 181. What true motivation is there to bulk up? Why not walk ~~188 and water cut week out to make 83 kgs? No true average height natty is realistically walking 190+ at 8% anyways. Especially since I have 2 more raw nationals as a junior since I'm a Dec 1992 b'day.

    1400@180 vs 1500@203 is essentially the same wilks.

    I understand bulking up if you plateau hard, but if someone seems to still be gaining strength why not just run with it?













    inb4 I total 1350 in November and rage-bulk to 200+ before the year ends.
    You are limiting your strength potential and progress staying so lean all the time. A weight/water cut for a meet to be competitive or records is different and I mentioned that above.
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    Originally Posted by romanabramovich View Post
    Say I total 1400+ in November at 181. What true motivation is there to bulk up? Why not walk ~~188 and water cut week out to make 83 kgs? No true average height natty is realistically walking 190+ at 8% anyways. Especially since I have 2 more raw nationals as a junior since I'm a Dec 1992 b'day.

    1400@180 vs 1500@203 is essentially the same wilks.

    I understand bulking up if you plateau hard, but if someone seems to still be gaining strength why not just run with it?













    inb4 I total 1350 in November and rage-bulk to 200+ before the year ends.
    There's a very good chance that you will hit a plateau sooner or later. Most do not stay in one weight class while making significant gains over a significant span of time. Staying less than 200 at 5'10 is a terrible terrible terrible idea if you're going to power lift. Being less than 220 at 5'10 natty is just as bad.
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    Why compete in something and only half ass it? Sure powerlifting isn't everything and at the end of the day it's just a hobby but why put in all the time and money and the travel to meets just to aim to be mediocre?
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    Originally Posted by TrettinR View Post
    Why compete in something and only half ass it? Sure powerlifting isn't everything and at the end of the day it's just a hobby but why put in all the time and money and the travel to meets just to aim to be mediocre?
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    I like being a shredded sickkunt and having the absolute most lean mass possible for the weight class I'm competing in.

    Who's mad?
    Perfect thought. As long as you don't limit your weight class to something that is very, very light for your height (6'+, <200 lbs). That is just silly.

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    The natty struggle is real. I don't expect some of you to understand...
    inb4 ban

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    Indeed. Having abs year round and being 180lbs is overrated. Spending some quality time+effort on putting on lean mass and getting bigger/stronger, and then having abs at 220 a few years later is a lot more fun
    Was talking with a very high level strongman a couple weeks back. Took him 10 years to go from 210 to 300. He is pretty damn lean and definitely did it right. That put **** in perspective for me.
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    Why compete in something and only half ass it? Sure powerlifting isn't everything and at the end of the day it's just a hobby but why put in all the time and money and the travel to meets just to aim to be mediocre?
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    Why compete in something and only half ass it? Sure powerlifting isn't everything and at the end of the day it's just a hobby but why put in all the time and money and the travel to meets just to aim to be mediocre?
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    I'm with your Rob although I was/still am the guy who plays lights out/full speed in pickup games.
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    are you better at powerlifting if you add 50 pounds to your total but your wilks goes down ?

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    Originally Posted by Hamzzza View Post
    are you better at powerlifting if you add 50 pounds to your total but your wilks goes down ?
    Do you know you have reached your max Wilks by staying in a lower weight class?
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    Originally Posted by Hamzzza View Post
    are you better at powerlifting if you add 50 pounds to your total but your wilks goes down ?
    Yes, you got stronger. Look at it long term and not just one meet one total.
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    Originally Posted by Hamzzza View Post
    are you better at powerlifting if you add 50 pounds to your total but your wilks goes down ?
    I must be confused. What's the purpose of powerlifting? To see how much weight you can lift. The only time wilks is even a factor is when you're determining the best lifter or when figuring who wins when two people total the same. If you're worried about your wilks you're doing it wrong. Get as strong as you can and your wilks will take care of itself.
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    Originally Posted by thom2355 View Post
    Do you know you have reached your max Wilks by staying in a lower weight class?
    Wilks is better at 230 than it ever was at 185 CREW


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    Originally Posted by ErickStevens View Post
    I get what he's saying too. He just sounds like a woman when he says it.
    6'0 195... you're aware that you currently land in Camp Woman too?

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    Originally Posted by zmcdole View Post
    I must be confused. What's the purpose of powerlifting? To see how much weight you can lift. The only time wilks is even a factor is when you're determining the best lifter or when figuring who wins when two people total the same. If you're worried about your wilks you're doing it wrong. Get as strong as you can and your wilks will take care of itself.
    all of this, as long as you are gaining good weight and not just getting fat allowing yourself to gain size is onl going to be beneficial
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    Originally Posted by TrettinR View Post
    Why compete in something and only half ass it? Sure powerlifting isn't everything and at the end of the day it's just a hobby but why put in all the time and money and the travel to meets just to aim to be mediocre?
    Fair enough. To me it's just a priority thing. I like being ~8% bf year round. Will that limit me at 83 kg since I'm not a super-manlet, perhaps. However, I don't necessarily think I am "half-assing" it because I'd rather stay lean year round. Even if I plateau ~1400 it's not the end of the world to me.

    My goal is to maximize my total while staying lean...everyone has different motives coming into powerlifting and I respect that. Personally, I'd rather squat 500 shredded than 600 pudgy. This may be the minority mentality here, but I'm ok with that.
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    Originally Posted by izzygrant View Post
    6'0 195... you're aware that you currently land in Camp Woman too?

    inb4 that's why you keep borrowing Kelsea's clothes
    the latest and greatest in training...or whatever.

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    Originally Posted by jsullivan93 View Post
    Wilks is better at 230 than it ever was at 185 CREW


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    And XL shirts starting to get small

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    Originally Posted by romanabramovich View Post

    My goal is to maximize my total while staying lean...everyone has different motives coming into powerlifting and I respect that. Personally, I'd rather squat 500 shredded than 600 pudgy. This may be the minority mentality here, but I'm ok with that.
    Ive just never heard any PLer say "shredded" and be serious at the same time

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    Originally Posted by romanabramovich View Post
    Fair enough. To me it's just a priority thing. I like being ~8% bf year round. Will that limit me at 83 kg since I'm not a super-manlet, perhaps. However, I don't necessarily think I am "half-assing" it because I'd rather stay lean year round. Even if I plateau ~1400 it's not the end of the world to me.

    My goal is to maximize my total while staying lean...everyone has different motives coming into powerlifting and I respect that. Personally, I'd rather squat 500 shredded than 600 pudgy. This may be the minority mentality here, but I'm ok with that.
    And I like this mentality because you're taking a slow and patient approach to strength gains, and you seem to acknowledge the fact that once you hit that plateau, you could potentially move up a weight class and remain very close to that level of leanness while getting quite a bit stronger.

    It's all about the long game if you're actually interested in being successful in powerlifting and a lot of other shyt too
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    Originally Posted by j2nicee View Post
    And XL shirts starting to get small
    lol this. So funny you posted that. My wife just told me yesterday my shirts are getting to small. Going to to have to start getting XXL. It felt rather good to be told that.
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    Originally Posted by romanabramovich View Post
    My goal is to maximize my total while staying lean...everyone has different motives coming into powerlifting and I respect that. Personally, I'd rather squat 500 shredded than 600 pudgy. This may be the minority mentality here, but I'm ok with that.
    That is fair, but don't be surprised when folks in a powerlifting thread think in contrary.
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