jack3d advanced formula

[Kdawg22]

So I got this in the mail today. Should be interesting.... The wannabe enhanced +Yohimbe

[BoilerUpIndy]

^^Mine arrived as well. Debating whether I should try it for Saturday's leg day or Monday's push day (tomorrow is pull day and I'm trying to get in the habit of not taking preworkout on those days)

[Kdawg22]

^^Mine arrived as well. Debating whether I should try it for Saturday's leg day or Monday's push day (tomorrow is pull day and I'm trying to get in the habit of not taking preworkout on those days)

Save it for leg day!

[marky1209]

just got my new jacked, gonna try it on delt, arm day tomorrow, will let you guys know how it is

[55mspecialist]

Just took it about 5 mins ago on an empty stomach along with some Yok3d! and hydrotrans. Doing legs today. Will let you guys know how it goes in about an hour or 2. I will say the flavor is a more citrus version of c4 strawberry margarita imo. Good taste tho. I like it a lot. Hopefully the effects are just as good.

[55mspecialist]

Alright so Im back from leg day with a review of Jack3d Advanced Formula. Note I stacked it with Yok3d!, Argenine, Hydrotrans and Oxyelite pro (original formula). Due to taking Presurge max dose and not breaking from it, I took the 2 scoops of Jack3d Advanced Formula to get a comparable amount of caffeine on a normal workout day. This was all on a empty stomach because I wanted to test the full effect. I was also running on about 5-6 hours of sleep.

This was my workout (all sets are 12 reps)

Close legged squats - 2 min rest in between sets
3 warm up sets of close legged squats - 90lbs + bar
7 sets of close legged hevay squats (ass to the ground) - last set being 230 + bar

Leg press 5 sets x 12 reps (1:30 between sets) finishing at 400lbs (because thats what the machine maxes out on in my gym)

Front Squats - 5 sets x 12 reps ( 2 mins between sets) finishing with a 90 + bar (ass to the ground)

Taste - 9/10

Honestly if you had C4 Strawberry Margarita flavor, this is basically what Jack3d Advanced Formula fruit punch taste like with a hint of citrus or marshmallow. It is honestly really good in terms of taste, but I know most of you don't give a damn about that so on to the more important stuff.

Energy - 7/10
The energy for this was okay, but definitely not even close to the original Jack3d or even Presurge. It was about the same as C4. You had energy and felt a stimulant effect, but it wore off in about 45 mins to an 1 hour. My legs definitely felt fatigued which is unusual considering I run track and leg day is usually my strongest day.

Focus - 5/10 - You definitely feel this from the onset. Best way to describe its initial feeling is that it is the same as if you try and stare at the tip of your nose. At first, it is kind of an unfocused, focused. Your mind definitely quiets down. However, this isn't tunnel vision levels of focus where the only thing you think about is the next set or next rep. It's definitely not as good as Presurge or any other dendrobium based pre-workout and considering that it did not have this in it, I didn't expect it to be. If you want the tunnel vision from the original Jack3d, don't get this and just buy DMAA. Presurge is the closest I have come to the focus from original Jack3d, but Jack3d is still in a class of its own.

Pump 5/10 - This is hard for me to say since it was leg day, and my legs are massive as it is, however, despite everything I didn't think there was a noticeable pump which kinda sucks. However, Im reluctant to blame this on the product due to being on a carb deficient diet, and in general, don't take to pump enhancers well. They just don't seem to work on me so take this with a grain on salt.

Side Effects 3/10 - This is what really sucked about this product to me. I guess I don't react to the Yohimbe too well because I did get nausea and shortness of breath. If anything, I felt this product made me fatigue a little more easily than normal due to the side effects. Im normally not affected by things like this, but Jack3d Advanced Formula definitely got me. I should also mention that you do sweat a lot and develop a lot of dryness and heavy thirst while on this which in combination with the shortness of breath really sucks. Fortunately this stuff wears off in about 2 hours.

Length 4/10 - The effects of this really don't last long as two hours was about its limit in terms of everything. I guess you can call this a benefit given the side effects, but still disappointing.

Price 9/10 - For $20 bucks, you get the product and priority shipping which you can't go wrong with, but honestly this should have been a 10/10 given that. Really anything less given what they did to get you to try it is a failure.

Overall 3/10 - Like I said for 20 bucks you couldn't really go wrong, but anymore and they are flat out robbing you. Jack3d Advanced Formula is not that great, and I could say even a step down from Jack3d Micro. I personally feel that USP labs is just trying to juice as much as they can out of the Jack3d name brand as they can. I think what disappoints me the most about this product is that even with all the extra help I gave it for pump and focus (The original Oxyelite has DMAA in it), It still didn't give me a super noticeable or vascular pump. Overall, I would not buy again. I am going to log the stuff and give it a chance, but my initial impression is that it is vastly inferior to 80% of the pre-workouts currently on the market even for the money.

[SuperYou]

Alright so Im back from leg day with a review of Jack3d Advanced Formula. Note I stacked it with Yok3d!, Argenine, Hydrotrans and Oxyelite pro (original formula). Due to taking Presurge max dose and not breaking from it, I took the 2 scoops of Jack3d Advanced Formula to get a comparable amount of caffeine on a normal workout day. This was all on a empty stomach because I wanted to test the full effect. I was also running on about 5-6 hours of sleep.

This was my workout (all sets are 12 reps)

Close legged squats - 2 min rest in between sets
3 warm up sets of close legged squats - 90lbs + bar
7 sets of close legged hevay squats (ass to the ground) - last set being 230 + bar

Leg press 5 sets x 12 reps (1:30 between sets) finishing at 400lbs (because thats what the machine maxes out on in my gym)

Front Squats - 5 sets x 12 reps ( 2 mins between sets) finishing with a 90 + bar (ass to the ground)

Taste - 9/10

Honestly if you had C4 Strawberry Margarita flavor, this is basically what Jack3d Advanced Formula fruit punch taste like with a hint of citrus or marshmallow. It is honestly really good in terms of taste, but I know most of you don't give a damn about that so on to the more important stuff.

Energy - 7/10
The energy for this was okay, but definitely not even close to the original Jack3d or even Presurge. It was about the same as C4. You had energy and felt a stimulant effect, but it wore off in about 45 mins to an 1 hour. My legs definitely felt fatigued which is unusual considering I run track and leg day is usually my strongest day.

Focus - 5/10 - You definitely feel this from the onset. Best way to describe its initial feeling is that it is the same as if you try and stare at the tip of your nose. At first, it is kind of an unfocused, focused. Your mind definitely quiets down. However, this isn't tunnel vision levels of focus where the only thing you think about is the next set or next rep. It's definitely not as good as Presurge or any other dendrobium based pre-workout and considering that it did not have this in it, I didn't expect it to be. If you want the tunnel vision from the original Jack3d, don't get this and just buy DMAA. Presurge is the closest I have come to the focus from original Jack3d, but Jack3d is still in a class of its own.

Pump 5/10 - This is hard for me to say since it was leg day, and my legs are massive as it is, however, despite everything I didn't think there was a noticeable pump which kinda sucks. However, Im reluctant to blame this on the product due to being on a carb deficient diet, and in general, don't take to pump enhancers well. They just don't seem to work on me so take this with a grain on salt.

Side Effects 3/10 - This is what really sucked about this product to me. I guess I don't react to the Yohimbe too well because I did get nausea and shortness of breath. If anything, I felt this product made me fatigue a little more easily than normal due to the side effects. Im normally not affected by things like this, but Jack3d Advanced Formula definitely got me. I should also mention that you do sweat a lot and develop a lot of dryness and heavy thirst while on this which in combination with the shortness of breath really sucks. Fortunately this stuff wears off in about 2 hours.

Length 4/10 - The effects of this really don't last long as two hours was about its limit in terms of everything. I guess you can call this a benefit given the side effects, but still disappointing.

Price 9/10 - For $20 bucks, you get the product and priority shipping which you can't go wrong with, but honestly this should have been a 10/10 given that. Really anything less given what they did to get you to try it is a failure.

Overall 3/10 - Like I said for 20 bucks you couldn't really go wrong, but anymore and they are flat out robbing you. Jack3d Advanced Formula is not that great, and I could say even a step down from Jack3d Micro. I personally feel that USP labs is just trying to juice as much as they can out of the Jack3d name brand as they can. I think what disappoints me the most about this product is that even with all the extra help I gave it for pump and focus (The original Oxyelite has DMAA in it), It still didn't give me a super noticeable or vascular pump. Overall, I would not buy again. I am going to log the stuff and give it a chance, but my initial impression is that it is vastly inferior to 80% of the pre-workouts currently on the market even for the money.

you stacked with OxyElite Pro. How many caps?

How many caps of Yok3d?

Seems excessive.

[marky1209]

you stacked with OxyElite Pro. How many caps?

How many caps of Yok3d?

Seems excessive.

thats what i thought

[55mspecialist]

you stacked with OxyElite Pro. How many caps?

How many caps of Yok3d?

Seems excessive.

1 pro
3 yok3d

Im crazy tolerant to the stuff like I literally feel nothing when taking it.

[SuperYou]

1 pro
3 yok3d

Im crazy tolerant to the stuff like I literally feel nothing when taking it.

too much nitrates can have the opposite effect, flat feeling...

[55mspecialist]

too much nitrates can have the opposite effect, flat feeling...

Possible, but even when using some of these separately I don't get much of a pump which is why I was reluctant to blame it just on the jack3d advanced. Probably has more to do with the carb depletion than anything else.

I will say that the only difference between my normal routine and today was the jack3d. I have no other probs with presurge or anything else.

[bencarpenter]

So I got this in the mail today. Should be interesting.... The wannabe enhanced +Yohimbe

Weird strategy from USP Labs to put their labels on back to front...

[Kdawg22]

Possible, but even when using some of these separately I don't get much of a pump which is why I was reluctant to blame it just on the jack3d advanced. Probably has more to do with the carb depletion than anything else.

I will say that the only difference between my normal routine and today was the jack3d. I have no other probs with presurge or anything else.

Presurge does not contain Yohimbre. Alpha Yombimbre is different. I tried it I rather enjoyed the new jack3d better then I thought. Not the greatest pre, but it works.

[triplewhammy]

No idea how well this formula will be, but as far as complaints against yohimbe...you would be surprised how well you can tolerate it as long as you start with a very low dose and just slowly ramp up over a period of time. Trust me, your body adjusts to it. (I too, am among those who have thrown up from the old MT Nanox9 pills)

[55mspecialist]

Presurge does not contain Yohimbre. Alpha Yombimbre is different. I tried it I rather enjoyed the new jack3d better then I thought. Not the greatest pre, but it works.

That is true, but all I was saying was that the side effects were likely the result of the new jack3d.

[NorCalMike]

No idea how well this formula will be, but as far as complaints against yohimbe...you would be surprised how well you can tolerate it as long as you start with a very low dose and just slowly ramp up over a period of time. Trust me, your body adjusts to it. (I too, am among those who have thrown up from the old MT Nanox9 pills)

Good advice here. The times I've taken products with it, I've jumped to the full dose immediately.

[Kdawg22]

That is true, but all I was saying was that the side effects were likely the result of the new jack3d.

My point was that, if you were to not take OG Oxyelite(that contains DMAA and caffeine also) and took Jack3d by itself you may have not felt nauseous.

[De__eB]

That is true, but all I was saying was that the side effects were likely the result of the new jack3d.

The side effects were more likely a result of you being a dumbass and stacking stim products.

Know what happens to people who don't follow label warnings?

They win darwin awards when they eventually do something stupid enough to hurt themselves.

[55mspecialist]

My point was that, if you were to not take OG Oxyelite(that contains DMAA and caffeine also) and took Jack3d by itself you may have not felt nauseous.

Could be, but to be fair the amount of caffeine I consumed was no different than normal (300 mg). Obviously, the same goes for the DMAA. So I don't think those are causes for that. The nausea wasn't terrible. It was just an after effect. Pretty sure, Im just one of those people that does not take well to one of the ingredients. My overall point was that it was just something in the ingredient blend in jack3d that likely got me.

[kissdadookie]

Could be, but to be fair the amount of caffeine I consumed was no different than normal (300 mg). Obviously, the same goes for the DMAA. So I don't think those are causes for that. The nausea wasn't terrible. It was just an after effect. Pretty sure, Im just one of those people that does not take well to one of the ingredients. My overall point was that it was just something in the ingredient blend in jack3d that likely got me.

What makes you think that caffeine is the only stim in there? With the OEP you've also added the DMAA into the mix along with more yohimbine.

[55mspecialist]

What makes you think that caffeine is the only stim in there? With the OEP you've also added the DMAA into the mix along with more yohimbine.

I mentioned the DMAA, didn't say caffeine was the only stim in there. I actually mentioned the DMAA if you bothered to read more than the first line of the post.

All I was pointing out is that I have taken other things with similar ingredient profiles (PES enhanced being closest) and have had no ill effects at all.

[kissdadookie]

I mentioned the DMAA, didn't say caffeine was the only stim in there. I actually mentioned the DMAA if you bothered to read more than the first line of the post.

All I was pointing out is that I have taken other things with similar ingredient profiles (PES enhanced being closest) and have had no ill effects at all.

Actually, no, all you were doing was stating the following:

I took 300 mg of caffeine before and it didn't affect me like this.

Essentially, you were implying that the only stim in the crazy combo you took that could cause such an effect was the caffeine. The fact that you are here arguing with me about what you said and didn't say when the fact of the matter was you took a whole lot of stims stacked together which could have easily caused the reaction you have claimed you had shows me that you should not be taking ANY supplements at all. A bunch of stims stacked is a whole different thing than taking each stim in isolation. Your logic and reasoning is asinine.

[marky1209]

i tried it today had a shake with carbs 1 hr before i took it
hit shoulders and arms.

energy 8/10
didnt think i was gonna feel something, but suprisingly to me compared to the old vs, i felt this more ( have a mild-high tolerance to stims)

pumps 6/10
eh nothing real noticeable.

focus 7/10 pretty good, no tunnel vision though

taste 9/10
pretty dam good

overall 7/10
for $20 def worth it

p.s. yohimbe is pretty noticeable, i usually react well to it like MT's new NANO vapor, but i could feel the yohimbe in the jacked, just a little short breaths

[De__eB]

i mentioned the dmaa, didn't say caffeine was the only stim in there. I actually mentioned the dmaa if you bothered to read more than the first line of the post.

All i was pointing out is that i have taken other things with similar ingredient profiles (pes enhanced being closest) and have had no ill effects at all.

warnings: Do not use in combination with caffeine or any stimulants from other sources whatsoever, including but not limited to coffee, tea, soda and other dietary supplements or medications

[PricePlow]

I mentioned the DMAA, didn't say caffeine was the only stim in there. I actually mentioned the DMAA if you bothered to read more than the first line of the post.

...and this is why we can't have nice things.


Please read and follow the label before using it next time.
Not is this all explained on the label, but there's a sticker on the LID that TELLS you to read it! What more can these companies do?!

[ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION]

Presurge does not contain Yohimbre. Alpha Yombimbre is different. I tried it I rather enjoyed the new jack3d better then I thought. Not the greatest pre, but it works.

Correct, the extract used in PreSurge, is largely apha Y and feels very different(better/less sides) from regular Y, which will have a large array of different alkoloids/effects.

[DASBUNKER]

yohimbrine of peace

[PricePlow]

Isn't usplabs known for its intense, super powerful, never combine with anything else jack3d label? The only time when disregarding such a blatant warning would be appropriate is when you tell a two year old infant not to do something. By age three, they've already learned to recognize that their actions have consequences

I found the sticker on top of the lid extra interesting because of that.

Don't forget, they're well-known to you and me, but the industry sees lots of people (and small businesses) come and go. Mainstay companies can't take anything for granted.

Anyway, no doubt... the yohimbe is strong with this one. Higenamine makes me sweat like crazy. This is definitely more of a "fat burning pre workout", which helped with OG Jack3d's success in the first place.

<rant>
My concern for USP is that their uneducated buyers may think they'll get an "advanced" DMAA replacement here, or will just clamoring for more caffeine.

Even though 200mg is all you really seem to need for athletic performance, the kids simply want more. It's not hard to spot the trend that got started 15 years ago with Starbucks and Red Bull, and now has us to the point where I see people downing 1L+ energy drinks at night.

The pre workout industry is now caught up in that mess.

USP sticks with the science, but the bros might not go for that.
</rant>

[BoilerUpIndy]

I got the USP Inner Circle deal and just took my first serving this morning (1 scoop)....to be quite honest, it wasn't anything to go crazy about. I felt some stims kick in within about 10 minutes which lasted for a few minutes, but it tapered away pretty quickly. I was somewhat disappointed. The pump was decent, but that was about it. Maybe 1.5 scoops may be my sweet spot. Neurocore has been my go-to preworkout for almost a year now, and 2 scoops of that outperformed the new Jack3d in my opinion.

I'll try it again either on leg day (Wednesday) or on my next push day on Thursday (also today's workout, which would make a better comparison).

[GigaPaladin]

Not sure if USPLabs sticks to science there man. Jack3d OG was under-dosed IMO (but ok @ 2.5 scoops, though the effects were not very long lasting) and had a lot of filler ingredients. jack3d micro was basically next to useless for me. Versa-1 did diddly squat. Super Cissus is aight, I still use it.

But yeah, USPLabs does not have a good track record with me for effective products. Stuff reads well on paper but actual effectiveness is mostly dubious at best.

Well this is just basically PES enhanced under another label almost so USP's track record is kind of irrelevant