True but if you aren't running a margin account you have to wait 3 days for fund clearing upon selling.Originally Posted by nyr469
Love the ghey rules they have ya know.
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03-04-2009, 11:42 AM #1321Auction Analyst
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03-04-2009, 11:46 AM #1322Banned
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With a $500 account, the probabilities of trading 100 times in thirty days are very slim without a lot of day trading. I mentioned it only to make Travis aware of it and avoid having his account frozen should he breach any restrictions.Originally Posted by nyr469
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03-04-2009, 11:47 AM #1323Banned
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My thoughts exactly. GE isn't going anywhere, too bad my funds are still in transitOriginally Posted by Travis71902
I learned this the hard way haha. Ever lost $8.5k in a day?Originally Posted by mcichocki
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03-04-2009, 12:26 PM #1324move or die!
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Originally Posted by DCarruso
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03-04-2009, 12:31 PM #1325Goldfinger
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I'd like to see GE plotted against Eastern European currencies. I bet there's a high correlation there with no lag.Originally Posted by DCarruso
"At the cost of being repetitive, I have to once again state my amazement at the aspect of human nature that allows us to mix the most rigorous skepticism and the most acute gullibility"
"As drowned worshippers do not write histories of their experiences (it is better to be alive for that), so it is with the losers in history, whether people or ideas"
"Secular bull markets are designed to take the least amount of people along for the ride as possible, call it universal law."
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03-04-2009, 01:38 PM #1326merde
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I just saw the flash come across the screen that the house is going to meet on mark to market....go FAS???
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03-04-2009, 02:13 PM #1327Registered User
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meeting is tentatively scheduled for march 12th...but if you anticipate them easing up on teh mark to market stuff then you probably want to start looking to get into positions soon. the market could potentially explode on the 13th as a result of this but good chance things will start to creep up between now and then in anticipation of that.Originally Posted by guest
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03-04-2009, 02:16 PM #1328Banned
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Looks like FAS set another new all-time low today, but it might be worth a shot... go blue??Originally Posted by guest
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03-04-2009, 02:18 PM #1329Banned
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We're 14.5 hours out from the ECB meeting. The EUR/USD is sitting right at support, so either way it moves will be very substantial. That's the meeting I'm looking forward to. Anyone else here trade fx?Originally Posted by nyr469
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03-04-2009, 02:41 PM #1330merde
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I'm thinking the opposite will happen, lol...the financials will rocket up until the meeting, and then creep along! It seems to be the way it's worked for the last year when it comes to anticipation - the anticipation always seems to do more than the news.Originally Posted by nyr469
To the NIT?Originally Posted by J_Mart2387
Looks like FAS set another new all-time low today, but it might be worth a shot... go blue??
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03-04-2009, 02:44 PM #1331Registered User
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TRUST ME... buy the rumor sell the news regarding any changes in mark to fantasy... I mean market...
Talk about taking out the transparency! No one will know how/what values are for the banks and which ones are on the brink. Buy the rumor, sell the news on that one my friends.Faith makes all things possible. Love makes all things easy.
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I'm up in your thread, injectin' teh knowlidge.
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03-04-2009, 02:53 PM #1332Banned
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What is NIT?Originally Posted by guest
To the NIT?
Everyone else buys on rumor and sells on news. The market is dominated by either bulls or bears, sheep get trampled. I'm up in your thread, rejectin' your knowledgeOriginally Posted by FranchiseKid
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03-04-2009, 02:59 PM #1333merde
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National Invitation Tourney...where the Wolverines are going, unfortunately. Probably no March Madness for them...but State's in.Originally Posted by J_Mart2387
It was in response to your "go blue" comment."I think computer viruses should count as life...I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We have created life in our own image"
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03-04-2009, 03:01 PM #1334Registered User
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Oh, gotcha... so we'll fight back and sell the rumor to the guys buying it and then really piss them off and buy the news when they all sell it... got it, right.Originally Posted by J_Mart2387
What is NIT?
Everyone else buys on rumor and sells on news. The market is dominated by either bulls or bears, sheep get trampled. I'm up in your thread, rejectin' your knowledge
You movin' marketz brah?Faith makes all things possible. Love makes all things easy.
Faith isn't faith until it is all you are holding on to.
I'm up in your thread, injectin' teh knowlidge.
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03-04-2009, 03:09 PM #1335Banned
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Oh ha. I don't follow college basketball, but UM has gone down the tubes lately across the board, not just basketballOriginally Posted by guest
lol nah, playing it either way right now is pure speculation. I'm just saying I intend to stay out of the way altogether rather than risk getting burned playing something that volatile. Good luck.Originally Posted by FranchiseKid
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03-04-2009, 03:31 PM #1336boo
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futures?
anyone got any experience with thesetrain insane or stay the same
-aj simms
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03-04-2009, 03:39 PM #1337Banned
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Talk to Cire over at Tradersbase. MC knows a bit too I think.Originally Posted by bthom65
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03-04-2009, 03:59 PM #1338Registered User
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definitely agree on the 'buy the rumor' part here as a big part of the move will be before the announcement...then make sure you have your stops in place when the news comes out cause it might go up even further (assuming it goes up of course) but i think its temporary cause people will realize that just because someone says 'pretend these losses aren't here' doesn't mean we don't already know about them lol.Originally Posted by FranchiseKid
i could also see this causing a 2nd bounce in april/may when the 1st quarter earnings come out. these markdowns were include in the 4Q numbers and factored into the 1Q projections, if you take those out suddenly everyone's numbers go up and people start beating expectations by a decent amount. obviously a lot of that will be 'priced in' but i think the market is dying for some good news for a change and if a bunch of companies 'beat' earnings that could increase confidence and bring some bulls out of hiding
now as a disclaimer i'm not talking about this kicking off a bull cycle or pushing us to crazy numbers again, i'm more thinking of it as 'potentially' a catalyst to lift us out of the panic/danger zone of sub-7000...maybe lift us back into the 7500-8k range to calm some of the fears slightly
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03-04-2009, 09:50 PM #1339Goldfinger
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March 13th is the next phi date according to many technicians.Originally Posted by nyr469
"At the cost of being repetitive, I have to once again state my amazement at the aspect of human nature that allows us to mix the most rigorous skepticism and the most acute gullibility"
"As drowned worshippers do not write histories of their experiences (it is better to be alive for that), so it is with the losers in history, whether people or ideas"
"Secular bull markets are designed to take the least amount of people along for the ride as possible, call it universal law."
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03-05-2009, 12:04 AM #1340Originally Posted by Travis71902
I think that is against the law. But we will just let that be a secret between you and them.Originally Posted by J_Mart2387
Normally, you don't even get an account number until all the paper work is in order. And then you wire in the money.
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03-05-2009, 12:46 AM #1341
Gloom, doom and boom...
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03-05-2009, 07:11 AM #1342Registered User
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by 'phi date' do you mean the date people are expecting the market to 'break out' either up or down?Originally Posted by Sirtitan
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03-05-2009, 07:31 AM #1343Goldfinger
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This should help.
http://www.safehaven.com/article-6182.htm"At the cost of being repetitive, I have to once again state my amazement at the aspect of human nature that allows us to mix the most rigorous skepticism and the most acute gullibility"
"As drowned worshippers do not write histories of their experiences (it is better to be alive for that), so it is with the losers in history, whether people or ideas"
"Secular bull markets are designed to take the least amount of people along for the ride as possible, call it universal law."
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03-05-2009, 08:02 AM #1344Auction Analyst
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What'd ya want to know?Originally Posted by bthom65
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03-05-2009, 08:03 AM #1345Auction Analyst
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Originally Posted by FranchiseKid
LOLZ
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03-05-2009, 09:21 AM #1346Registered User
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wow faz over $97, fas beaten into submission at 2.87...faz was 47 on 2/26. i'm sure some people here made a killing...i didn't cause i'm stupid but i'm sure some of you did LOL
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03-05-2009, 09:24 AM #1347Banned
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damn, in b4 market crash
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03-05-2009, 09:35 AM #1348Banned
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Damn it's crazy to think we could be seeing DJIA in the 5k range if this **** doesn't slow down. Hard to imagine....
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03-05-2009, 09:50 AM #1349Get Real
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OF COURSE NOT!Originally Posted by nyr469
I ahd FAZ at 56, sold at 70 for what I thought was a great profit. who knew I could have doubled my money (yes bitter about a win)
I'm a lil scaredOriginally Posted by DangerDan
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03-05-2009, 10:00 AM #1350Registered User
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ok let me see if i understand this...X number of days before 3/12 was a previous top or bottom in the market and X is a fibonacci seq. But how do you determine which 'top' to go off??Originally Posted by Sirtitan
is it Feb 6th when the dow hit 8280, which is 34 days before 3/12??
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