I still dont get hunting animals in modern day

[Ravishing_Rick]

thread got too big
hard to reply to everyone

There is a doc called The last lions it used to be on youtube idk if it is anymore, docs are usually boring but this one made me cry it was strong you should watch it

will do
aren't you a secret HBB

[thedarrenestes]

like unless its your job i dont get it

like why do hunters feel the need to kill something
like dont serial killers kill animals as kids
hunting seem like a serial killer trait

i love meat and understand farms

I have hunted and trapped for essentially my entire life


The same as my dad, and the same as his dad etc..
Hopefully my children will fall into the same footsteps

I can unequivocally say the actual death of the animal is the worst part, there is 0 enjoyment in killing something for the sake of killing
Considering the heat, cold, early mornings, late nights, uncomfortable conditions, cost of the gear/trip, time away from other responsibilities...
Killing the animal is always the least desirable aspect of the entire situation

This is why many, including yourself, have no issue with eating store bought meat but can't understand hunting
Store bought meat simply removes the death aspect

This is not chitting on you OP, it's just to say that the only pragmatic way to obtain a few 100lbs of fresh venison is to hunt deer
To obtain enough meat to last a family months, or to supplement a budget for an entire year, the only way is to be waterfowling, fishing, hunting other big game such as elk, hogs, turkeys throughout the entire calendar year taking numerous animals

We can get into trapping efficacy in another thread but i can assure the vast majority of hunters have 0 psychopathic tendencies

[Kuzu]

its the same reason why the UFC is a billion dollar organization, these behaviors are as old as mankind

[bigcat3655]

Well, for one it keeps deer numbers down since there aren't a high number of natural predators in many areas. Second, the fees collected fund lots of wildlife preservation activity. Third, it is easily the most humane way of obtaining meat.

I'm not an active hunter myself but what is there not to get?

All of this. Repped. Hunters provide the vast majority of the money that goes to state wildlife conservation funds through their license fees.

Without hunters, deer population would rise to a level not possibly sustainable since natural predators are scarce anymore. Costs to crops would be astronomical and the population itself would be diseased and miserable since there wouldn't be enough food to go around. The cost of deer vs auto crashes would also skyrocket.

[DizzySmalls]

so you think the animals you eat from farms aren't killed?

This? Wtf is going on in this thread

[Brozef]

Can't wait for deer hunting season to start. I'm allowed to kill 3 this year.

[Antoine99]

I'm pretty sure it helps to control the population and where they go among other things. As long as you don't kill it for "fun", and actually eat it, it's fine.

[badbart]

I love killing things and eating them. You guys are a bunch of pussies.

[potbellymadar]

Most people don't get it until they overrun their nice development, eating their precious shrubs, flowers, gardens, or ravage their garbage nightly and maybe take a pet or two. Or when they get a car demolished or hurt/killed when they swerve to miss them. Most don't understand that a lot of land that can't be developed into strip malls, housing developments, etc is paid for by hunters and their license fees. Most people don't understand how much meat is actually given to the needy. Most people don't understand crop damage loss. Most people don't understand that animals multiply and left unchecked not only spread diseases but can be detrimental to many other species. (See the explosion in wild hogs) I could go on and on but it's like beating a dead horse....

So most people don’t it huh?

[Ikeman83]

what pops into my head that makes me rage is game hunters

i might be taking it out on regular hunters ...maybe

This fat **** paid probably the GDP of the entire village near where that lion was taken to pay for the license to hunt it.

Legal Trophy Hunting ensures that there is a stable population to enable, you guessed it, trophy hunting.

Trophy hunters spend tens of billions of dollars per year on the conservation of wildlife so that there is something for them to hunt. When you outlaw trophy hunting, the money dries up, and the locals turn to poaching. You also have the Chinese come in looking for dick potion ivory (serious).

Support Hunting, it's the only reason there are wild animals still around in Africa.

[GordonXXX]

i can respect this -

Zuckerberg takes to killing chickens and pigs

In what is reportedly his personal challenge of the year, the ******** CEO has taken to eating meat only from animals he personally kills.

This year, he explained, "my personal challenge is around being thankful for the food I have to eat. I think many people forget that a living being has to die for you to eat meat, so my goal revolves around not letting myself forget that and being thankful for what I have."

https://www.cnet.com/news/zuckerberg...kens-and-pigs/

[Atrnmike]

will do
aren't you a secret HBB

Online that doesn't mean much, You cant put your dink through a screen and you can only bust so many nuts to videos/pictures. Being an HBB online is useless, they have porn for that.

[veggie530]

like unless its your job i dont get it

like why do hunters feel the need to kill something
like dont serial killers kill animals as kids
hunting seem like a serial killer trait






i love meat and understand farms

It's important to keep these skills up, otherwise if you need it...

[Strawng]

Agreed, OP. I'm a Southerncel, born and raised anyway, and I don't really have much interest in hunting. I think sometimes sport hunting is cope for insecure dudes to feel more powerful by shooting a defenseless animal. Small dink, chit body, low IQ, can't get pussy? Oh, well, least you can shoot a gun like any other mouth-breather. Idgaf if you're hunting predators...you got a gun and they don't, bish. That being said, I don't eat meat and I think hunting animals for food is superior to factory farming. Respect to anybody that goes out of their way to hunt their food instead of relying on supermarkets. I also see the argument for learning the skill if the world goes to complete chit, but then we're getting into "survivalist" territory.

[gluon]

This fat **** paid probably the GDP of the entire village near where that lion was taken to pay for the license to hunt it.

Legal Trophy Hunting ensures that there is a stable population to enable, you guessed it, trophy hunting.

Trophy hunters spend tens of billions of dollars per year on the conservation of wildlife so that there is something for them to hunt. When you outlaw trophy hunting, the money dries up, and the locals turn to poaching. You also have the Chinese come in looking for dick potion ivory (serious).

Support Hunting, it's the only reason there are wild animals still around in Africa.

yep was going to post something similar, but figured what's the point. Anti-trophy hunters operate on pure emotion and zero logic. Your point has been echoed by sound minds every time this topic comes up but still we have grown men crying about trophy hunting. sad really.

[Smithers115]

Either your morals are skewed or you have no real moral premise if you support factory farming where animals live in horrid conditions and suffer their entire lives vs cleaning and humanely harvesting animals that lived a natural life.

Hunting is the goat manly activity and is ethical food. The thrill of getting a buck youve been hunting is amazing

[soaponarope1]

add natural predators

Great idea, I'm sure suburban housewives will love it when the local government introduces packs of wolves and cougars large enough to take down fully grown deer into the wild. Surely will be great for children and pets.

Also, in case you've forgotten, human are natural predators and the apex predators of the entire planet.

Sounds like you've lost your grip on reality a bit.

[LegDayLol]

like unless its your job i dont get it

like why do hunters feel the need to kill something
like dont serial killers kill animals as kids
hunting seem like a serial killer trait



i love meat and understand farms

In every country with large natural resources, hunting wild animals has a culture. Even the uber lefty Nordic countries like Sweden and Norway have a large hunting culture.

Trying to compare hunting culture to serial killers torturing animals as kids is a weak troll attempt. If that were true, there would be tens of millions of serial killers a year across America...

[gixxer0.6g]

No greater thrill than hunting big game.

City folk will never understand or appreciate how much is involved in hunting. We literally cake ourselves in animal piss.

[RobParks2M]

like unless its your job i dont get it

like why do hunters feel the need to kill something
like dont serial killers kill animals as kids
hunting seem like a serial killer trait

i love meat and understand farms

Cuz having a freezer full of meat doesn't suck? How is that a difficult concept to grasp?

Do you have a problem with people fishing?

[RobParks2M]

This fat **** paid probably the GDP of the entire village near where that lion was taken to pay for the license to hunt it.

Legal Trophy Hunting ensures that there is a stable population to enable, you guessed it, trophy hunting.

Trophy hunters spend tens of billions of dollars per year on the conservation of wildlife so that there is something for them to hunt. When you outlaw trophy hunting, the money dries up, and the locals turn to poaching. You also have the Chinese come in looking for dick potion ivory (serious).

Support Hunting, it's the only reason there are wild animals still around in Africa.

THIS. This is liberal dumbfuk states can't control their wildfires either because they don't allow thinning out trees (logging responsibly) or clearing dead underbrush. Forest management no longer exists

[8pieces]

most hunters harvest all the meat. but alot of animals are not indigenous and destroy wildlife and crops in the region so they need their population to be controlled

[cadetduke]

A lot of those hunters are paid/asked by the locals to keep the animals/predators in check. Farmers in Africa lose hundreds/thousands of livestock every year due to lions and other predators. A decent number of people are killed too. Be angry at the locals not the hunters.

I'mma stop here. I went to grade school with a dude that went to south africa to game hunt. The ******* came back with a zebra head. That's it. Flew all the way to south africa to kill a horse.

[DubBrah]

Didn't read all the posts but you should watch the documentary Stars in the Sky. It's on Netflix. Steve Rinella directed/wrote it. He has been on Joe Rogan before. Also the show Meat Eater on Netflix. Also Rinella.

[EagleOfWar]

Hunting is actually important to the ecosystem srs.

[elterrible987]

Well, for one it keeps deer numbers down since there aren't a high number of natural predators in many areas. Second, the fees collected fund lots of wildlife preservation activity. Third, it is easily the most humane way of obtaining meat.

I'm not an active hunter myself but what is there not to get?

This, people act like hunting = killing endangered animals but really there are all kinds of rules and licenses required. Most of it is to control the population. If its some endangered animal then thats different and fuked up. Also I think they should eat the animal or give it to someone that will. Most hunters have big freezers too so usually that is done.

[elterrible987]

what pops into my head that makes me rage is game hunters

i might be taking it out on regular hunters ...maybe

brah thats different, those are endangered animals and they are just buying their way into getting around the laws and a lot of times they have the animal set up for it.

Its different in the US, a lot of regulations, quotas, seasons ect. Some of the animals are overpopulated, that isnt the hunters fault, that is a growing population so less forrest for deers and even less everglades for alligators. No trappers for alligators, equals alligators coming out to the streets and chit.

Even with the hunting, I still knew like 5 different people get in a car crash with deer in the north east. You can only hunt them during hunting season and not within the cities anyways.

[guest89]

If you've never hunted its really hard to understand. Joe Rogan and Steven Rinella do a really good job of explaining why its a valuable skill-set. But for the most part actually killing an animals is the smallest part of hunting. It lasts maybe 3-5 seconds tops. But you've countless hours of preparation. Hours in the woods/wilderness searching for the animal or waiting for it to come by. After you kill it, you have to butcher it, carry the meat out. At home clean it/finish butchering it. Store it. Cook it. Etc.

what pops into my head that makes me rage is game hunters

i might be taking it out on regular hunters ...maybe

Before you criticize African trophy hunters you need to write a check for at least 25,000-30,000 and donate it to an African wild-life conservation or anti poaching fund. Then you need to donate about a month or two worth of food to a tribe/community in Africa. Because if you can't do that, you haven't done as much as a 'small time' trophy hunter.

The money they spend ensures the survival of wild-life in Africa as well as stimulates local economies. And the meat is used to feed the locals. People like to hate on trophy hunters but a lot of those guys spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on Africa. Money that goes directly into an otherwise dead economy in rural areas. Money that goes into wildlife management and conservation. Money that goes towards feeding Africans.


Until anti-hunters can donate 200 million per year to Africa. Chances of getting trophy hunting banned is slim to none.


PS prior to African safaris becoming wide spread. African governments would employ wild-life management officers to kill hundreds/thousands of animals as part of population management. A lot of anti trophy hunters have no freaking clue what the trophy hunting market has done for wildlife in Africa.

Also that fat fukker probably spent over 35K for that lion alone. Dude probably spent upwards of 100 grand for his 'Safari'. Easy to hate for killing a lion but he has provided for the existence of 100 other lions in turn.

[Harry362]

like unless its your job i dont get it

like why do hunters feel the need to kill something
like dont serial killers kill animals as kids
hunting seem like a serial killer trait


i love meat and understand farms

It’s a natural thing for a man to want to kill an animal. It means your test is high and you have survival instinct. I’ve killed deer, bear, turkey, big horn sheep, gators, quail, etc.

Saving up for my 40th bday I want to take out an elephant on a safari but it’s gonna be expensive as ****

[Hutrapper]

A few points.

1. Nowhere in the civilized world is game meat from an animal, trophy or not, legally allowed to go to waste.

2. I was invited to go on a cull hunt in kruger national park in Africa. A cull hunt is where wildlife officials figure out how many animals extra there are, and paid hunters just go and shoot several hundred animals due to overpopulation. In other places in africa, hunters pay to kill animals. The country profits, and wildlife management is taken care of. I didn't end up going btw.

3. Nothing goes to waste in nature. Animals go unrecovered all the time. Chit happens, bad shots happen. The animal is not wasted because a human didn't make poop out of it. Something else did, don't worry.

4. I could never raise an animal and kill it. You raise a cow from birth, then one day instead of giving it an apple, you shoot it in the face. Fukkin savage. Out in the bush with my bow everything knows I am no good. Life is more fair there. The animal lives wild and free. My arrow and a 30 yard dash is a far cry better than the sickening smell of a kill floor. everything dies, I just change the date.

5. Humans kill things. If you don't think you do, you are a hypocrite. Plowing a field kills hundreds of rodents in one shot. Seagulls and crows follow plows for a reason, and I am bad for killing a deer?

6. Responsible harvest numbers are based on sound wildlife management practices. In the civilized world, no hunted animals are in danger of extinction. Illegal harvest of animals is called poaching, and we all are against that. Please know the difference.

7. I know where my meat comes from, and what is in it. Where did your steak come from? I butcher my own animals, from rabbit, to moose to bear to deer to grouse and ducks. It also is a cheap way to get protein. I processed several hundred lbs of meat last year. Do the math over my life. The outdoors is a lifestyle and I would have boats, snowmobiles, guns and ATVs anyway.

Also, did not read last few pages so forgive me or fuk off if I repeated some stuff