What is all the Fortnite hype?

[canonhope]

Its trash game for kids, played it for 1 hour and uninstalled and went back to CSGO

What's even sadder is most people who play it play it on consoles and not PC

my elementary school son wants to get it on ps4 because his friends at school are into it since January. I said I'll look into it before downloading.
good insight ITT

[kr1kit]

I don't think it has anything to do with that, but the fact that 75% of PUBG gameplay is spent looking at the ground for attachments, and running from the gas. When you couple that, with the long game times, and the fact that a lot of folks die at the end without any action, you have a LONG boring arse experience, that is devoid of any progressions outside of terrible loot crates.

Main reasons why I haven't played PUBG in over two months. I have no desire to go back to it unless they do a good sized overhaul.


People from China keep trying to brute-force their way into my Epic Games account and it keeps getting locked out. I've changed my password obviously but these botters won't stop trying to log in... Every other day I get an email from Epic telling me my accounts been locked for 120 minutes due to too many login attempts from China.

[CaliSuperSport]

Yeah, I can't imagine how well he is doing. There is one streamer who is one of the original streamers who now only pulls between 2k-5k average every time he streams. He does a particularly good job at being able to monetize his base and he stated he is making over 200k/year from streaming.

Ninja on the other hand streams to a much larger audience. I don't know if there has ever been a larger streamer (non-events) than him. Has any other streamer been able to pull over 100K other than Ninja yet (without a celebrity appearance)? I saw him streaming to over 100k yesterday, and he was playing solos. Quite insane.

https://www.polygon.com/2018/3/5/170...am-subscribers

On March 15 at approximately 1 a.m. ET, rap god Drake joined Ninja for a late night Fortnite stream. The stream gained 635,429 concurrent viewers, far surpassing Dr. DisRespect’s previous record of 388,000 and Tyler1’s record of just under 380,000 concurrent viewers. Ninja also reportedly gained more than 90,000 subscribers, which accounts for a total of at least $250,000 a month in revenue for Ninja.

$250k a month to play video games....fukin mirin.

inb4 Sommer Ray moves into his house.

[stasmtl]

https://www.polygon.com/2018/3/5/170...am-subscribers



$250k a month to play video games....fukin mirin.

inb4 Sommer Ray moves into his house.

thats 250k on top of what he was making already. His monthly income is close or at 1 million dollars at this point.

Why Sommer Ray? Does that have anything to do with her hanging out with those 2 losers, Banks and Ricecum?

[CaliSuperSport]

thats 250k on top of what he was making already. His monthly income is close or at 1 million dollars at this point.

Why Sommer Ray? Does that have anything to do with her hanging out with those 2 losers, Banks and Ricecum?

lol. I was more alluding to the crazy life some of these gamers have.

brb 22 years old making 6-7 figures
brb mansion in LA with models
brb banging cosplay sloots

however I wonder how much of this income the guys are keeping. Aren't some of them sponsored by major companies, wouldn't they be getting a cut? Still it's impressive.

[freeburn]

lol. I was more alluding to the crazy life some of these gamers have.

brb 22 years old making 6-7 figures
brb mansion in LA with models
brb banging cosplay sloots

however I wonder how much of this income the guys are keeping. Aren't some of them sponsored by major companies, wouldn't they be getting a cut? Still it's impressive.

I think sponsors for them work more like "here's some free ****, please tell all your subscribers you use our product"

Never heard of anyone paying their sponsors

[stasmtl]

https://clips.twitch.tv/RenownedGrossDonutJebaited

by far

[TMaC828]

https://clips.twitch.tv/RenownedGrossDonutJebaited

by far

Is this even an argument?

[RiceBrah93]

$250k a month to play video games....fukin mirin.

inb4 Sommer Ray moves into his house.

None of you have any idea how Twitch even works let alone this business model. 250k is just revenue not profit, you have to take into account the amount that Twitch pockets off him, not to mention affiliates, ads and sponsors.

[IceCoal]

https://clips.twitch.tv/RenownedGrossDonutJebaited

by far

not sure I agree on saying no room for error in fortnite. you can basically build yourself out of trouble if you get caught lol.

[JoshSP1985]

No they won't





Yes you can

Strong arguments

[CaliSuperSport]

None of you have any idea how Twitch even works let alone this business model. 250k is just revenue not profit, you have to take into account the amount that Twitch pockets off him, not to mention affiliates, ads and sponsors.

He makes donations too, red. Looks like you're the one who doesn't have a clue.

I think sponsors for them work more like "here's some free ****, please tell all your subscribers you use our product"

I had heard of entrepreneurs investing in certain social media personalities for a return (giving them equipment, advertising money, etc) and was curious if the same was true for Twitch streamers. Because some of these guys pop outta nowhere.

Like how exactly does Ninja have the entertainment clout to arrange an appearance with Drake? I know of growing music artists who have crossed paths with him mostly because they were booked to the same event, and he'll take photos with them for social media. Unless Ninja was way bigger than I thought.

[MEDITATE]

so you guys squading up?

[TMaC828]

Shroud is lowkey dirty at Fortnite. I think if he put the time in that Ninja did, he'd be as good as better. It's just different watching him aim and shoot. He's got that Godly mouse aim that's been crafted through years of CSGO.

Xbox 1 brahs add me.

kiNetix420

[rocketfish]

He makes donations too, red. Looks like you're the one who doesn't have a clue.



I had heard of entrepreneurs investing in certain social media personalities for a return (giving them equipment, advertising money, etc) and was curious if the same was true for Twitch streamers. Because some of these guys pop outta nowhere.

Like how exactly does Ninja have the entertainment clout to arrange an appearance with Drake? I know of growing music artists who have crossed paths with him mostly because they were booked to the same event, and he'll take photos with them for social media. Unless Ninja was way bigger than I thought.

drake watches ninja play on youtube to get better at fortnite

kimdotcom is friends with drake and ninja, text messages exchange and kimdotcom got them together and they all played.

[MEDITATE]

guided missle commng tomorrow

[JoshSP1985]

Shroud is lowkey dirty at Fortnite. I think if he put the time in that Ninja did, he'd be as good as better. It's just different watching him aim and shoot. He's got that Godly mouse aim that's been crafted through years of CSGO.

Xbox 1 brahs add me.

kiNetix420

There were trolls in NInjas chat saying "Are you mad shroud is already better than you."

I was just thinking yeah the dude is probably pulling close to a mil a month from all revenue sources he's so mad

[CaliSuperSport]

drake watches ninja play on youtube to get better at fortnite

kimdotcom is friends with drake and ninja, text messages exchange and kimdotcom got them together and they all played.

Interesting...do you think fortnite paying celebs for social media marketing? Derek Carr on the Raiders was also tweeting about it.

I just find it odd that Fortnite is the game you see celebs getting involved with on the social media/viral level. Celebs being in commercials isn't new but this feels new. And Drake is known to latch onto alot of popular things and basically advertise his association with it.

[TMaC828]

guided missle commng tomorrow

I do not think this is a good idea.

There were trolls in NInjas chat saying "Are you mad shroud is already better than you."

I was just thinking yeah the dude is probably pulling close to a mil a month from all revenue sources he's so mad

I think he has better aim but in terms of mastering the game mechanics, Ninja is still miles ahead.

But Shroud has a higher ceiling with his mouse and keyboard background.

And Ninja strikes me as the kind of guy who takes pride in being the best. He's been asked by donators before if he thinks he's the GOAT and he replied without much hesitation, 'yes'.

I just can't wrap my head around how many people subscribe and donate to Ninja. I'll watch occasionally, but you can watch for free. He doesn't even have time to thank each subscriber anymore because if he did that's literally all he would do.

[rocketfish]

Interesting...do you think fortnite paying celebs for social media marketing? Derek Carr on the Raiders was also tweeting about it.

I just find it odd that Fortnite is the game you see celebs getting involved with on the social media/viral level. Celebs being in commercials isn't new but this feels new. And Drake is known to latch onto alot of popular things and basically advertise his association with it.

not sure, I can genuinely think that other people out there (famous) play video games for fun. You also had NFL Steelers WR JuJu Smith in on the fortnite game with drake as well. JuJu is a big gamer as you can read in this article https://uproxx.com/sports/steelers-j...witch-streams/

Smith-Schuster is a deadly sniper and a burgeoning pro gamer. As a member of FaZe Clan, he’s now on an elite NFL team and an elite esports team, which could be a first for the ever-growing world of competitive gaming.

These guys in their free time are playing video games. Juju's gotten other NFL players into "esports"

[CaliSuperSport]

not sure, I can genuinely think that other people out there (famous) play video games for fun. You also had NFL Steelers WR JuJu Smith in on the fortnite game with drake as well. JuJu is a big gamer as you can read in this article https://uproxx.com/sports/steelers-j...witch-streams/



These guys in their free time are playing video games. Juju's gotten other NFL players into "esports"

I see. The gaming world has definitely changed over hte last 10-15 years that's for sure.

[IsLifeRealLife]

I have been watching Twitch for over 6 years and trust me Ninja is easily making over 1.5 million a month.


He currently has 236k subs. He gets 4$ per sub instead of $2.5/$3.5 per sub since he's the biggest streamer on twitch and is allowed to negotiate his contract. That's already 944k off of subs alone.


Now, there's a streamer called Greekgodx who makes 1k a day in donations with only 10k viewers so that gives you an idea of how much Ninja is making per day off of donations with 100k viewers.


So this isn't even including advertisement on twitch, sponsors, merchandises that he sells and youtube videos which he is getting over 3 million views per video.

[TurkBrah]

got hooked into this after this thread. addicting as fuk.

Watched some PC players, it feels like cheating compared to ps4 due to mouse and kb.

Someone tell me how to play on ps4. what controller settings?

[JaxBrah]

i tried it a few times but i just cant get into it. Its for all the people who were unable to get into PUBG, either because of price or lack of pc/xbox.

Its free, casual friendly AND on all platforms

[KingSWRV]

<--- Played it and got bored of it BEFORE it was even cool

[Tapciv]

i tried it a few times but i just cant get into it. Its for all the people who were unable to get into PUBG, either because of price or lack of pc/xbox.

Its free, casual friendly AND on all platforms

That may describe plenty of players, especially in the younger demographic who can't just afford any game they want but as a general comment, seems unfair.

I'd argue that aside from the cost to purchase the game that PUBG is a lot more casual friendly (specifically in regards to game play). It is easier to play, encourages camping, does not have building and is slower paced. All of which are more casual player friendly.

It is for people who not only would like the f2p model but also for those who want a higher skill cap, faster paced game, with the ability to be much more creative.

If the game was F2P but not very good, it wouldn't catch on - especially with very competitive "pro" players/streamers. The ability to make plays and have epic clips exists in a dimension that PUBG can't touch - which means more high viewed entertaining content/clips.

[Tapciv]

Another thing to look out for when a games playerbase balloons up is the downfall of the trend.

Right not fortnite is in, its trendy and everyone wants to be apart of it. Once that feeling wears off it will no doubt lose a good chunk of people and we will see the daily player levels at a more realistic place for the 'long term'

Like pokemon go, everyone and their mother was playing it, like fortnite right now, we will see.

I do agree with this. Also, there was a huge portion of subscribers that are very temporary as they are taking advantage of a promotion for a free skin by trying out twitch prime (which you get a free trial for with Amazon Prime - which you can get a free trial for). There is some percentage of the large amount of subscribers that will drop off after a month after cancelling their Amazon Prime free trial.

They had a similar promotion in HS, also got some packs - so a bunch of HS players saw a huge one month jump in subs. Some number do forget to cancel their trial and some members do like the service and keep it so it does help but there is a huge portion that just cancel the trial (and subsequently their subscription to the streamer).

Over the long term, your probably right as the game is really hot right now but not sustainable but consider even if he cuts down to a 30-40k average, he will still be making quite good money. Even a guy streaming to 10k people constantly can make a really good living (add in donations, the Youtube revenue, the sponsorships, etc...). This huge income for a few months could set him up for quite a long time. He won't be hurting (unless he spends like crazy) and having a couple of million made over the short term is quite a safety net while still making a more modest income (still high, imagine making in a year what he makes in a month now, and he wouldn't be hurting at all).

isnt it confirmed that autist cuck got a chitton of botted prime subs? they are def out there, have a irl buddy who streams(like <15 viewers on avg) and he ran into a guy on chat offering bot prime subs for $ and he asked him to prove it and he insta got like 10 subs.

Not sure who you are talking about or if it is the same person that I was.

None of you have any idea how Twitch even works let alone this business model. 250k is just revenue not profit, you have to take into account the amount that Twitch pockets off him, not to mention affiliates, ads and sponsors.

On the bigger streamers, they usually take less than the standard. Typically, a $5/month sub gets split down the middle ($2.50 to each party). With the bigger streamers, they can negotiate a bigger cut and likely a 250k/month streamer (from subs alone) is doing better than a 50/50 split. Ad's on Twitch are pretty horrid in terms of income nowadays but this would add to ones income, not take away from it. The same applies to sponsors - they would add to the streamers income and some of the deals are actually pretty lucrative. Then you add donations, which are probably the largest part of their income (for a lot of streamers). Twitch does not get a cut (unless you purchase "Bits" from Twitch and use those to donate) if I understand but there is a cut taken.

He makes donations too, red. Looks like you're the one who doesn't have a clue.

I had heard of entrepreneurs investing in certain social media personalities for a return (giving them equipment, advertising money, etc) and was curious if the same was true for Twitch streamers. Because some of these guys pop outta nowhere.

Like how exactly does Ninja have the entertainment clout to arrange an appearance with Drake? I know of growing music artists who have crossed paths with him mostly because they were booked to the same event, and he'll take photos with them for social media. Unless Ninja was way bigger than I thought.

I believe it was more of a social media set up. Drake came out that he enjoys Fortnite and some how came across Ninja's material (the biggest Fortnite player right now). They shot a few messages back and forth and set up to play on stream. It was delayed a few times and put off - that is why it ended up being at some obscure time on a weekday. It seems Ninja is quite big right now as Fortnite expands in popularity. Does he parlay this into more of a "celebrity" status and break out into mainstream culture more?

My guess is of course it is a bubble like all streamers and games and he doesn't make it into more mainstream circles/popularity (but it appears he is the closest to do it so far?) but even when it dies down he will make a good income for quite a long time. Even at 1/10th of what he is making now, it is quite a large income.

[JonV10]

got hooked into this after this thread. addicting as fuk.

Watched some PC players, it feels like cheating compared to ps4 due to mouse and kb.

Someone tell me how to play on ps4. what controller settings?

Combat pro
Building reset on

I like my sensitivity at 5 and ADS 73

Watch and learn from the pros

[CaliSuperSport]

I believe it was more of a social media set up. Drake came out that he enjoys Fortnite and some how came across Ninja's material (the biggest Fortnite player right now). They shot a few messages back and forth and set up to play on stream. It was delayed a few times and put off - that is why it ended up being at some obscure time on a weekday. It seems Ninja is quite big right now as Fortnite expands in popularity. Does he parlay this into more of a "celebrity" status and break out into mainstream culture more?

My guess is of course it is a bubble like all streamers and games and he doesn't make it into more mainstream circles/popularity (but it appears he is the closest to do it so far?) but even when it dies down he will make a good income for quite a long time. Even at 1/10th of what he is making now, it is quite a large income.

I think they have alot more growth potential in the video game and general social media industries, before going hollywood/TV mainstream. I don't think the average person would just respect someone who's known as a professional gamer. Sounds crazy but non-gamers don't realize these guys are basically business owners/self-made.

More than likely: they can go the Pewdiepie route and become variety streamers/content producers. Even with a Drake appearance. I mean how many rap fans care than Snoop was "streaming" on Twitch? probably not many.