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    The problem is you're focusing on the things in life that don't really matter. When I was a kid I had hopes and dreams. We all did. But over time, the daily grind gets in the way and you miss the things that really matter, even though they are right in front of you, staring you in the face. I think the next time you should ask yourself "Am I on the right track here?". I don't mean to be rude but people like you I really pity. So maybe you could use the few brain cells you have and take advantage of the knowledge I have given you now. Good luck.
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    Originally Posted by Jacobcapra View Post
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    o.0 mmmhhmmm
    Used to DL, got a big max, stopped giving a phuck and stopped doing all the exercises I hated

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    Originally Posted by TheDragonDaddy View Post
    2nd only to the Mighty Squat
    As much as I love doing deadlifts and squats, Clean & Jerk is by far the greatest lift.
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    Originally Posted by Jacobcapra View Post
    You don't think so? Before deads and squats, and after deads and squats

    [img]http://i.imgur.com/vJWKCDB.jpg?1[img]
    No hate, but you could have done this with diet only. srs
    I don't neg.
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    Originally Posted by TheBuffmuffin View Post
    Don't deadlift, better back than 99% of the misc.
    Pullups huh?
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    Originally Posted by TheBuffmuffin View Post
    Don't deadlift, better back than 99% of the misc.
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    Don't deadlift anymore crew.

    But nice job getting strong and looking better OP.

    Originally Posted by FriendOfFrank View Post
    Like detrimental to aesthetics, or just that you could be using your time better elsewhere? Curious why you say this
    If you're deadlifting, you're probably chasing a max. I've never, NEVER seen anyone max with perfect form. It just doesn't happen. That means you'll probably get hurt training the lift.

    Deadlifts = injury (for most of the population)

    Injury = time out of the gym

    Time out of the gym = detrimental to aesthetics


    For the natural lifter, looking half way decent is a game of 3 - 5 years (or a decade). The lifter that does leg curls, RDLs, lunges, hip ups, etc will have more aggregate time in the gym than the guy that dead lifts but has to take a few months off due to injury. The delta between the muscle building capacity of the dead vs other lifts does not make up for the time that you'll spend on the couch icing your back (not lifting).
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    As a beginner , I don't know what to think anymore , so much opinions here , should I replace it with sumo deadlift + BB good mornings instead ?
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    Originally Posted by TheBuffmuffin View Post
    Of course brah
    Pullups are the best thing for a big back mane, pretty much impossible to hurt yourself doing them too lol
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    Take notes folks! You too can focus on deadlifts/squats and have the same aesthetic physique as OP right here!
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    Originally Posted by Flakker View Post

    For the natural lifter, looking half way decent is a game of 3 - 5 years (or a decade). The lifter that does leg curls, RDLs, lunges, hip ups, etc will have more aggregate time in the gym than the guy that dead lifts but has to take a few months off due to injury. The delta between the muscle building capacity of the dead vs other lifts does not make up for the time that you'll spend on the couch icing your back (not lifting).
    qft. Nobody ever thinks that they will get hurt because they have perfect form.
    I don't neg.
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    Originally Posted by Lukos123 View Post
    As a beginner , I don't know what to think anymore , so much opinions here , should I replace it with sumo deadlift + BB good mornings instead ?
    Do deadlifts with good form until you hit 4 plates. By then you should be able to make a personal decision on whether you want to continue doing them or not.

    If you decide you like powerlifting, you'll probably keep doing them. If you mostly care about aesthetics, they're pretty unnecessary.
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    Originally Posted by Dan_S View Post
    Do deadlifts with good form until you hit 4 plates. By then you should be able to make a personal decision on whether you want to continue doing them or not.

    If you decide you like powerlifting, you'll probably keep doing them. If you mostly care about aesthetics, they're pretty unnecessary.
    Hitting 405 is pretty fuarking hard lol

    Whenever I get around that weight my grip strength is just like fuark you Jacob

    Will probably be years before a beginner hits that

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    Originally Posted by RhinoBody View Post
    No hate, but you could have done this with diet only. srs
    It basically was diet only, of course. Just rationalizing the same way as the goof that posted my physique as some sort of implied evidence that deadlifts aren't GOAT
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    Originally Posted by Jacobcapra View Post
    Because they're afraid of snap city, or they 'don't care' about deadlifting, yeah fukkin right deadlifting is 100% the most alpha lift you can do.

    Maybe just stop being a pussy, learn good form, grow a pair, and profit. Literally the second best lift you can possibly do for strength or size

    Took myself to snap city 3 times, most recent one was a few weeks ago. Have good form, foam roll and stretch before every set, don't do any weight I can't get Inleast 5 reps of and still got hurt.


    Finally just retired that exercise and barbell squats as its not worth it for me. My 2 favorite exercises to, but, I can get great results without them.

    (Last snap city wasn't even barbell deadlift, I switched to Hexagon and it was working great for months until it didn't.)


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    Originally Posted by MurphDirtyX View Post
    Took myself to snap city 3 times, most recent one was a few weeks ago. Have good form, foam roll and stretch before every set, don't do any weight I can't get Inleast 5 reps of and still got hurt.


    Finally just retired that exercise and barbell squats as its not worth it for me. My 2 favorite exercises to, but, I can get great results without them.

    (Last snap city wasn't even barbell deadlift, I switched to Hexagon and it was working great for months until it didn't.)


    Great exercises though would recommend them to anyone under 40
    If your form was good and the weight was sub-maximal, how did you hurt yourself?
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    Ive been deadlofting since I ever started lifting and I have never pulled or torn anything. As long as you stretch beforehand and use great form youll have a tiny chance of getting hurt. Some of you guys should really do more research on the exercise, it can help greatly with size.
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    I will take the olympic bar off a seated military press station and start deadlifting next to the ab machine bunnies. happy my gym pads the whole floor and doesnt care because there are only two power rack stations and they are usually full.
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    Ive been deadlofting since I ever started lifting and I have never pulled or torn anything. As long as you stretch beforehand and use great form youll have a tiny chance of getting hurt. Some of you guys should really do more research on the exercise, it can help greatly with size.
    Chit happens mane.

    Did squats heavy AF for the first four years of training, no mobility work, minimal stretching, and never had an injury.

    Got hurt once, now I re-injure that spot super easily. I do mobility work, lightened the weight, try perfecting my form, but chit still happens.

    Got hurt squating fuarking 225 for high reps, I used to be able to squat in the mid 400's with zero issue.

    Hard to understand until it happens to you.
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    Originally Posted by jacobcmurphy View Post
    Chit happens mane.

    Did squats heavy AF for the first four years of training, no mobility work, minimal stretching, and never had an injury.

    Got hurt once, now I re-injure that spot super easily. I do mobility work, lightened the weight, try perfecting my form, but chit still happens.

    Got hurt squating fuarking 225 for high reps, I used to be able to squat in the mid 400's with zero issue.

    Hard to understand until it happens to you.
    Hurt myself squatting more than I do deadlifting also.
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    Originally Posted by jacobcmurphy View Post
    Chit happens mane.

    Did squats heavy AF for the first four years of training, no mobility work, minimal stretching, and never had an injury.

    Got hurt once, now I re-injure that spot super easily. I do mobility work, lightened the weight, try perfecting my form, but chit still happens.

    Got hurt squating fuarking 225 for high reps, I used to be able to squat in the mid 400's with zero issue.

    Hard to understand until it happens to you.
    what happened to you, which is probably what generally happens to people, is you were gradually getting degenerative changes from lifting until you hit the tipping point one day.

    once those discs start going its a chronic problem, the only acute injuries that probably have a high chance of no future issues are muscles strains
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    2nd best exercise for size ? Lmao okay brah. I quit doing them. Zero point in me doing them and I haven't noticed any lacking body parts
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