Wow .. yes .. so true ..
its the fear of weight gain .. i know it is .. but it's so difficult to just accept that weight gain is fine .. i always have the fear that the weight gain is mainly fat and not muscle .. but as Sonny said earlier ... I should celebrate it ..
man, this is so fuarkin difficult ..
I'll try to go to bed now.. goodnight lads ..
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02-25-2017, 10:48 AM #91Instagram: Mos_Toorani
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02-25-2017, 11:04 AM #92
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Almost nothing worth doing is easy
I am right there with you, believe me.
I am actually considering chronically my experience with videos in the event it helps others, but I am a bit hesitant to do so because i'm a tad camera shy.
Still, might make for a good tool for others."When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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02-25-2017, 12:19 PM #93
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02-25-2017, 12:51 PM #94
I didn’t notice that a new thread had been created so I’m just catching up on it. One thing we can do to not clog the thread is to write @(insert username) instead of quoting each others’ (often very long) posts. It was something that determined4000 (may he rest in peace) suggested in the previous Eating Disorder Support Thread.
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02-25-2017, 03:27 PM #95
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02-25-2017, 06:27 PM #96
After giving it some time you were right, it was just water retention and my skin is somewhat back to normal. How exactly are you able to tell (by pinching) the difference though? I know I shouldn't bodycheck anymore...for awhile I was doing great but sometimes I just have bad days. Bodychecking is the real trigger now, I don't think the scale has much influence on me nowadays if any. If I don't get to a certain weight my parents will be upset with me (and already are) so it's inevitable.
You're 100% right though, and thanks. I've been struggling with some separate issues too so those combined with eating+body image have been affecting my happiness and general well-being a LOT lately and I need to work on finding balance in my life, especially with relationships and hobbies. Been making some improvement since last time I posted here though so that's something.
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02-25-2017, 06:35 PM #97
It's completely okay to enjoy food. It should be naturally enjoyed and many people here have struggled or currently struggle with grasping that concept.
The issue in your case is moderation. Staying up all night playing video games is damaging to your health and is a case of not exercising moderation in your enjoyment. Same goes for eating 1,000 or 10,000 calories a day.
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02-25-2017, 06:45 PM #98
Been focusing/thinking about food much less than normal over the past few days which is a great mental improvement for me since I tend to agonize over food so much. Almost feel like I'm growing uninterested in food, although now I'm made to eat three distinct meals a day which is new for me. By uninterested I mean I'm not thinking about food in my free time, not thinking about what I ate or what I'm going to eat and how it relates to my activity levels, etc. Only thinking about food when it's set in front of me at a meal.
Problem is, my intake has easily been lower lately than what it usually was...meaning I'm probably losing whatever I've gained so far. I don't like to check my weight so often I'm obsessed with it but I will on Monday to see my progress.
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02-25-2017, 08:20 PM #99
After reading the struggles that people are going through in this forum, i've decided to list down the issues that i believe i'm facing and i hope you guys can chime in into how i could start to "fix" it.
1) satiety .. i can eat a lot .. no joke .. i've done a few eating competitions in the past and i can easily eat a lot of food.. i fill myself up with protein fluff, 1 kg of lettuce, 1 kg of carrots every night just to feel 'satisfied'. i hate going to bed hungry.
2) my craving/love for candy, ice cream and cereal. These are obviously high in calories and would provide with the least amount of satiety .. hence why i dwell on the amount of calories i eat in a day .. Of course, if i ate more 'calories' then i'd have an easier pathway to satiety.
3) weight gain that does not correlate with strength gains .. it depresses me if i gain weight but not strength in the gym.. especially on the compound lifts.
4) i think about food all the time .. literally .. from morning til i sleep.. i dwell over what 'nice, delicious' treats i can eat and still manage to eat veggies/fruits to help me feel 'full'.
5) everytime i try to move away from micromanaging my intake .. i end up under eating because of this little arse of a voice in my head that tells me "don't eat this, it's high in calories and you'll probably surpass your daily intake... you'll gain unnecessary weight without any strength gains"
so yeah .. it's early in the morning .. i'm at work .. and i'm thinking about food and what to eat today.. what 'treat' to have today..
basically, the above is just a few things that popped in my head .. main issue is satiety i guess?
Can you guys help? We don't have professionals here unfortunately. 3rd world issues..
cheers!
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02-25-2017, 08:49 PM #100
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02-26-2017, 05:21 AM #103
Yes i can, but keep in mind, i am new to lifting, so i have no idea if it is optimal or not. A little background: all my life i was thin, but when i have started martial arts i have gained a kinda respectful size, i was strong, muscular agile, felxible etc. When i have done martial arts i used to do a lots of gpp, a fkton. Waiter's walk, farmer's walk, bear hugs etc. I used to train in high volume. Also you have to know what is your weakness, and what is your strongness. Kenpo is similar to mma, you can fight while you stand, and on the ground. Genetically wider guys better at ground fights, those who have long arms/legs are better at standing fights, cuz u can keep a good distance, but once you are at the ground you are fked. Cuz of this my back was strong, my core also, and especially my legs. I had to have a really solid balance in order to not get into situations where i have to fight on the ground. Cuz of this, and i can really feel, my legs are strong, my back also, but my chest/shoulder.... is a mess. I do an upper/lower split. 2 days i go heavy as fk, 3 days i go high volume, i drop the weights and increase the reps. The core of my workouts focuses on compounds, and i rareley isolate. Only thing i isolate is my shoulders. I do the following on workouts: power days: get in, max out get home. Volume days: get in blast myself with volume and get home. I rotate some lifts, for example rack pulls, pendlay rows, and benching. My shoulders/chest needs more frequency, that is why i do upper body 3 times a week. BUt i can feel my past, my legs and my back is strong, but my chest and shoulder is srsly lagging. For example, i can deadlift 180kg for 1 rep, i can squat 140 kg for reps, i can do chin ups with a 25 kg plate on me, but i am unable to fking to more on ohp than 40 kg.... Also on my power days i throw in some gpp, etc. You should know your limits and lift that way. For example i rareley do reps for failure, almost never. I know i have 1-2 more reps left in my tank, but i do not want to drain the fk out from myself.
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02-26-2017, 09:03 AM #104
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02-26-2017, 10:01 AM #106
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full body 3x per week is basically the proven ideal for 99% of people who have less than one year of good, consistent training under their belt and (if you're a male) have yet to reach the following (approximately):
225 bench press
315 squat
405 deadlift
135 overhead press
This is especially true if you are underweight or restricting, because it will optimize the amount of time between sessions for your body to heal, unlike training 5 days a week with little/no breaks.
That being said, it is also possible to make very good progress with an upper/lower or push/pull routine wherein every musclegroup gets hit 2x per week. Something like this:
Monday: PUSH (Squats, Bench, Delts, Accessories)
Tuesday: PULL (Deadlifts, Rows, Chins, Accesories)
Wednesday: OFF
Thursday: Same as Monday
Friday: Same as Tuesday
Sat - Sun: OFF
OR...
Monday: UPPER
Tuesday: LOWER
Wednesday: OFF
Thursday: Same as Monday
Friday: Same as Tuesday
Sat - Sun: OFF
The idea is to focus only on getting stronger week/week or session/session."When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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02-26-2017, 10:14 AM #107
Well said .. I stopped lifting for more than a year due to my herniated disc .. got an operation done then recovery etc ..
So when I got back to 3x full body routine per week, i got stronger.. couldn't bench with weights but now i bench 94 lbs .. in about 8 months? feel like i was spinning my wheel due to fear of gaining weight ..
deadlift improved as well .. from 90 lbs to 215 lbs .. I stopped squatting though .. fear of another injury .. would rather not risk it..
oh well .. i'll be going on a short break at the end of the week and i hope i come back with a clearer mind and take this bulk seriously...Instagram: Mos_Toorani
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02-26-2017, 10:51 AM #108
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02-26-2017, 11:03 AM #110
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I miss those days.
I can get back there though... I've done it before in only 3-4 months when I bulked
I got to:
Bench: 245 x 1
Deadlift: 405 x1
Squat: 275 x 1
My squat has always been my weekness
I had to reach 173lb before I could do it though... so hopefully if I gain about 35-40lbs i'll be able again!"When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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02-26-2017, 12:47 PM #111
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02-26-2017, 08:34 PM #114
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Happy to report that every main lift improved in the gym today.
The last couple days have been 100% by the book: no restriction, eating in accordance with cravings and energy needs (whether it be physical or mental cravings/hunger). And today, for the first time in a long time, I felt strong in the gym... looked forward to each lift.
Feeling good."When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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02-26-2017, 10:12 PM #116
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02-26-2017, 10:39 PM #118
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But how did your body feel? Energized? Satisfied?
The next time you start reflecting on numbers, ask yourself out loud, "how does my body feel".
Use that to replace thoughts of "how do I feel ABOUT my body". You're in a place wherein your mind is completely misreading the situation... you gotta fight back at it and tell it to fuk off
Guess what? I'm going to bed tonight full... which means tonight I won't feel all cold and weak like usual. Regardless of what my brain thinks about my body, my body feels great!"When I die, I hope it's early in the morning so I don't have to go to work that day for no reason"
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