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    Originally Posted by KoolDJVader View Post
    I used to be anti-straps and always used a mixed grip on deads until a few years ago when I started learning more about technique (I use to just grip and rip, some people here woild have had a field day with my dreadful form!). But once I learned more about engaging the lats and some of the cues (favorite one is Mike Tuscherer's try to put your shoulder blade into your back pocket), I always do it double overhand because I just feel more lat engagement that way. So that means it's either hook grip or straps when the weight is too much to hold a regular grip double overhandl
    Unless you are working grip and forearms and DOH is excellent for that, if you are trying to engagement that technique (especially in Quick lifts) DOH is horrible even with light weight the bar will still roll a tad, once it rolls even a tad, kiss that technique goodbye, your lower back will always start to compensate for that roll because the friction changes.
    That's Olympic lifters use straps with warmup weight.
    I still use a mixed grip because I can still get that engagement even with a mixed grip and still get just as good as a back workout and grip. I would say my back/legs felt equal to my grip, I'd say my back/legs would've failed before my grip if I'd kept going to failure, but that's me, I've done grip training for longer than anything, there was several years I only trained DOH for higher reps, and thickbar.
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    Nice job blacking out the eyes, looks like you're wearing cool shades.

    Also kinda cool the URL for one of you photos has "AB" as part of it
    https://m.imgur.com/fABTpCY
    I am legally blind from one eye and my glasses are like Coca-Cola bottles and I look like a doofus wearing them, but I have to wear them when I am at home to rest my eyes, otherwise I will go blind.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Unless you are working grip and forearms and DOH is excellent for that, if you are trying to engagement that technique (especially in Quick lifts) DOH is horrible even with light weight the bar will still roll a tad, once it rolls even a tad, kiss that technique goodbye, your lower back will always start to compensate for that roll because the friction changes.
    That's Olympic lifters use straps with warmup weight.
    I still use a mixed grip because I can still get that engagement even with a mixed grip and still get just as good as a back workout and grip. I would say my back/legs felt equal to my grip, I'd say my back/legs would've failed before my grip if I'd kept going to failure, but that's me, I've done grip training for longer than anything, there was several years I only trained DOH for higher reps, and thickbar.
    I've really tried to work on hook grip, but I really do have incredibly short stubby fingers and a thick palm. So far it just seems impossible for me to get enough 'finger on the thumb' with the hook. And since I can do mixed grip and not in danger of dropping my max lift, I'll stick with that for everything but the higher rep sets.
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    GREAT day yesterday - final workout before next weekends' meet - and I did hit the double PR!
    Bench was 315 which I've done in the gym several times, so it's technically a tied PR - but wanted to put it up to know that I can put it on the table for either lift #2 or #3 depending on how my first lift goes.
    The BIG PR was hitting my 525 Deadlift - another jump from the 515 I did a couple weeks ago. It went up fast and I think I may have a little more in the tank - we'll see how the meet goes!
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    Originally Posted by PhDPepper1111 View Post
    GREAT day yesterday - final workout before next weekends' meet - and I did hit the double PR!
    Bench was 315 which I've done in the gym several times, so it's technically a tied PR - but wanted to put it up to know that I can put it on the table for either lift #2 or #3 depending on how my first lift goes.
    The BIG PR was hitting my 525 Deadlift - another jump from the 515 I did a couple weeks ago. It went up fast and I thin
    k I may have a little more in the tank - we'll see how the meet goes!
    Nice.... definitely have more in the tank!
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    Change of pace, wasn't in a squat mood (well more like not in setting up squat stand mood) so did something I haven't done in a LONG time....power cleans and push press. Started off doing power cleans and strict press up to 160 lbs then did power cleans and push press for 180,190 and 201 lbs. Last time I did power cleans was way back in Summer 2015 when I reached my goal of 225 lbs

    Gratuitous Flashback Friday to last time I did a power clean (yes I know form sucked...didn't care, just wanted to do 2 plates)


    Back to present day.power clean and push press with 201 lbs

    Rounded out workout with bent over barbell rows (another lift I hadnt done in a while but bar was on the floor) and ab wheel rollouts
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    Good stuff Vader!
    It's never too late!

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    Originally Posted by PhDPepper1111 View Post
    GREAT day yesterday - final workout before next weekends' meet - and I did hit the double PR!
    Bench was 315 which I've done in the gym several times, so it's technically a tied PR - but wanted to put it up to know that I can put it on the table for either lift #2 or #3 depending on how my first lift goes.
    The BIG PR was hitting my 525 Deadlift - another jump from the 515 I did a couple weeks ago. It went up fast and I think I may have a little more in the tank - we'll see how the meet goes!
    Looked easy for you!!

    Originally Posted by KoolDJVader View Post
    Change of pace, wasn't in a squat mood (well more like not in setting up squat stand mood) so did something I haven't done in a LONG time....power cleans and push press. Started off doing power cleans and strict press up to 160 lbs then did power cleans and push press for 180,190 and 201 lbs. Last time I did power cleans was way back in Summer 2015 when I reached my goal of 225 lbs

    Gratuitous Flashback Friday to last time I did a power clean (yes I know form sucked...didn't care, just wanted to do 2 plates)


    Back to present day.power clean and push press with 201 lbs

    Rounded out workout with bent over barbell rows (another lift I hadnt done in a while but bar was on the floor) and ab wheel rollouts
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    Vader, that powerclean looked easy for you.

    Today I hit all my standing overhead press from the rack and then some.

    5 sets of singles with 155, and since I didn’t use any push with the legs finished with 160 x 1.
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    Is there a way to multi-quote on the mobile site?

    But anway, thanks everybody for the good word!

    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Vader, that powerclean looked easy for you.

    Today I hit all my standing overhead press from the rack and then some.

    5 sets of singles with 155, and since I didn’t use any push with the legs finished with 160 x 1.
    Thanks, wasn't sure what to expect with not having done them in a while and the smaller plates but didn't feel bad at all. May become part of my routine for a while.

    Good job on OHP. It's a brutal exercise
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    Wasn't going to record anything today, just do some rep work but couldn't leave the squat at just last week's 298.5 lbs. So for the first time since the pandemic started, did a +300 lbs squat (303.5 lbs to be exact). Did some rep work with 280 lbs after and then did a 285 lbs beltless ATG slightly paused single. In between the 303.5 lbs belted and 285 unbelted singles, did some rep work with 280 lbs. Finished off workout with 3 sets of light Good Mornings and some neck work. Hoping to restart grip work soon but forearm pain not completely gone yet.

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    Originally Posted by -=FLEX=- View Post
    Just a little lat spread in case you need some advertising space or a helicopter landing pad:
    Coming along nicely man.

    Originally Posted by KoolDJVader View Post
    Wasn't going to record anything today, just do some rep work but couldn't leave the squat at just last week's 298.5 lbs. So for the first time since the pandemic started, did a +300 lbs squat (303.5 lbs to be exact). Did some rep work with 280 lbs after and then did a 285 lbs beltless ATG slightly paused single. In between the 303.5 lbs belted and 285 unbelted singles, did some rep work with 280 lbs. Finished off workout with 3 sets of light Good Mornings and some neck work. Hoping to restart grip work soon but forearm pain not completely gone yet.

    303.5 lbs Squat (no screenshot today, no doubt on depth today )


    285 lbs beltless ATG Paused Squat
    How you managed to workout in a crowded place is beyond me man, props!
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    Originally Posted by KoolDJVader View Post
    Is there a way to multi-quote on the mobile site?
    yes - there are three small buttons to the lower right of all posts; the middle one is multi-quote - hit that for as many as you want to respond to, then the larger quote button to the left of that one when you're ready to go.
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    yes - there are three small buttons to the lower right of all posts; the middle one is multi-quote - hit that for as many as you want to respond to, then the larger quote button to the left of that one when you're ready to go.
    I never knew that, I've used copy/paste/edit etc all this time to do it manually DOH!!!!!
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    Coming along nicely man.



    How you managed to workout in a crowded place is beyond me man, props!
    Thanks for the props.....when I was a teenager, did the bedroom workout so I guess I'm use to it!(although back then it was just benching and curls)
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    Originally Posted by PhDPepper1111 View Post
    yes - there are three small buttons to the lower right of all posts; the middle one is multi-quote - hit that for as many as you want to respond to, then the larger quote button to the left of that one when you're ready to go.
    Thanks but can only see two buttons ("Reply" and "Quotes") on my tablet. Maybe my browser is outdated as the tablet is around 5 years old.
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    I never knew that, I've used copy/paste/edit etc all this time to do it manually DOH!!!!!
    thanks!
    So much wisdom, and still learning!

    Originally Posted by KoolDJVader View Post
    Thanks but can only see two buttons ("Reply" and "Quotes") on my tablet. Maybe my browser is outdated as the tablet is around 5 years old.
    I suspect it's outdated!
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    Tonights workout, was light day.

    I did some crazy curls with one leg squat, balance was the worst lol

    Also some stills as well.



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    Those are some interesting curl-squats!!!
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    Those are some interesting curl-squats!!!
    Good work BH!
    I saw it at a CrossFit class and thought,, hmmm I missed my leg workout so let me try this as I wasn't going to do squats and deads on the same day. It was interesting to say the least. It required a lot of balance and I think the mind to muscle link has to be a little more pronounce.
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    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    Tonights workout, was light day.

    I did some crazy curls with one leg squat, balance was the worst lol

    Also some stills as well.



    Yates Rows


    Curls with one legged squat




    Nice! Before I got my squat stand in the fall, the only leg exercise I did were Bulgarian Split Squats. Very humbling.
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    Nice! Before I got my squat stand in the fall, the only leg exercise I did were Bulgarian Split Squats. Very humbling.
    Ive heard of them never seen them done before.


    Finally got the 100s for 5 reps without any forced rep. I would get 3 and 4 by myself...Baby steps!!

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    Now that I got my phone back I I have the video where my son had to help me get 5 reps on the decline with the 100lbs, this was last Monday June 7th.

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    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    Ive heard of them never seen them done before.


    Finally got the 100s for 5 reps without any forced rep. I would get 3 and 4 by myself...Baby steps!!
    Good job!!

    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    Now that I got my phone back I I have the video where my son had to help me get 5 reps on the decline with the 100lbs, this was last Monday June 7th.
    I missed the post on getting your phone back - great news!!
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    Originally Posted by PhDPepper1111 View Post
    Good job!!



    I missed the post on getting your phone back - great news!!
    I was struggling with the 100lbs I think once I get to 5 reps then I feel like I got over the hump and hopefully keep moving up!

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    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    Ive heard of them never seen them done before.


    Finally got the 100s for 5 reps without any forced rep. I would get 3 and 4 by myself...Baby steps!!

    The hundos are definitely a cool visual. First bodybuilding magazine I bought had Dorian Yates on the cover doing 150 lbs dumbbell incline presses. Since then, always thought dumbbell presses were cooler than barbells.
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    Front squat day. After doing triples and doubles with 238.5 and 258.5 lbs respectively, did two singles with 285 lbs. First is with a belt and very slight pause, way less than what I wanted. Second single is beltless and also took off knee sleeves. Knee sleeves are so old they keep sliding down and it was bugging me so just took it off. You can tell how much a belt helps by the respective difficulties, the belted rep didn't feel that bad, beltless was a bit of a grind. Finished off workout with floor leg curls using core sliders (if curious: https://www.t-nation.com/training/leg-curls-2-0/ . These are harder than you might initially think especially if you keep you hips extended and moreso if you do it single leg. When I was still in a gym, I did glute ham raises and these are comparable.) Anyway, the videos:

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    The last dead lift in my old house, the weights are the last thing to go. I can't even lift in my temporary apartment, its; so damn small.

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    Originally Posted by KoolDJVader View Post
    The hundos are definitely a cool visual. First bodybuilding magazine I bought had Dorian Yates on the cover doing 150 lbs dumbbell incline presses. Since then, always thought dumbbell presses were cooler than barbells.
    I think I am the only person who starts DB on the top, everyone else I see starts then at the bottom, but it is harder for me to start at the bottom, hence see how I struggled on the decline when I started them at the bottom.

    Originally Posted by KoolDJVader View Post
    Front squat day. After doing triples and doubles with 238.5 and 258.5 lbs respectively, did two singles with 285 lbs. First is with a belt and very slight pause, way less than what I wanted. Second single is beltless and also took off knee sleeves. Knee sleeves are so old they keep sliding down and it was bugging me so just took it off. You can tell how much a belt helps by the respective difficulties, the belted rep didn't feel that bad, beltless was a bit of a grind. Finished off workout with floor leg curls using core sliders (if curious: https://www.t-nation.com/training/leg-curls-2-0/ . These are harder than you might initially think especially if you keep you hips extended and moreso if you do it single leg. When I was still in a gym, I did glute ham raises and these are comparable.) Anyway, the videos:

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    285 lbs front squat (no belt and no sleeve)
    Nice and smooth.

    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    The last dead lift in my old house, the weights are the last thing to go. I can't even lift in my temporary apartment, its; so damn small.

    410 x 3

    That bar looks really thin, do you find it harder with a thinner bar?


    I finally got 315lbs for 1, its been a long battle for me, but I am there, so I will take it, baby steps!



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    I think I am the only person who starts DB on the top, everyone else I see starts then at the bottom, but it is harder for me to start at the bottom, hence see how I struggled on the decline when I started them at the bottom.
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