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    So I say do them damnnit! Just take advantage of the sale on jetmass to help you recover
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    I hate squats but I also love them because I hate them haha. I just shut my mouth and do as you tell me and not quit
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    Originally Posted by ExtremeOne74 View Post
    I got a topic idea from another thread. Exercises that are brutal and many avoid at all costs. Are they worth the effort? For example- doing hacks or leg presses instead of front squats. Machine rows instead of bb rows. Glutes kick backs instead of walking lunges. I've always had the mindset that the more you want to avoid doing an exercise; the more reason to do it. Thoughts?
    uh, Front Squats

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    I hate squats but I also love them because I hate them haha. I just shut my mouth and do as you tell me and not quit
    I just got over my love/hate relationship with squats since I have no leg press to fall back on. Still hate deadlifts, but I know I gotta do 'em. Probably need a class or someone to judge how I can do better. Still at 265 with straps x8, or 285 x6 .
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    Originally Posted by ExtremeOne74 View Post
    So I say do them damnnit! Just take advantage of the sale on jetmass to help you recover
    Sunday is last day of BOGO 50% off right? I'm waiting to see if there are any other daily deals I want to take advtange of. Have two tubs of Orange Creme in cart ready to go.
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    Originally Posted by SOH11 View Post
    Sunday is last day of BOGO 50% off right? I'm waiting to see if there are any other daily deals I want to take advtange of. Have two tubs of Orange Creme in cart ready to go.
    Mmmmmm.... orange cream....

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    Originally Posted by ExtremeOne74 View Post
    I got a topic idea from another thread. Exercises that are brutal and many avoid at all costs. Are they worth the effort? For example- doing hacks or leg presses instead of front squats. Machine rows instead of bb rows. Glutes kick backs instead of walking lunges. I've always had the mindset that the more you want to avoid doing an exercise; the more reason to do it. Thoughts?
    .

    Hear so many people .. squats hurt my knees and deads hurt my back .... prolly cuz you learned and/or are doing them wrong.
    Walking lunges suckass so do split squats.

    I avoid front squats like the plague but thats a different kind of pain.
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    Originally Posted by 1armlifts View Post
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    Hear so many people .. squats hurt my knees and deads hurt my back .... prolly cuz you learned and/or are doing them wrong.
    Walking lunges suckass so do split squats.

    I avoid front squats like the plague but thats a different kind of pain.
    A lot times those people are squatting with knees in or out and not tight like they should be OR with bad foot position.

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    I embrace the pain. I know the more brutal the workouts, the better the results.
    Agreed. Ever get pain around your elbow or inside of elbow? I only notice it the most when hitting a movement that utilizes a lot of bicep.
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    Originally Posted by bdillingham5 View Post
    A lot times those people are squatting with knees in or out and not tight like they should be OR with bad foot position.



    Agreed. Ever get pain around your elbow or inside of elbow? I only notice it the most when hitting a movement that utilizes a lot of bicep.
    Try relaxing your grip. Sounds like tennis elbow. Wear straps whole doing back too.
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    Regarding knee pain during squats. People often don't realize that as long as you don't bounce or squat over your toes going deeper is actual safer for your knees. Think about it. Guys load up the bar with WAY too much weight (which unnecessarily compresses your spine but that's a different issue). Then they go part of the way down, slam on the breaks and quickly reverse. Talk about stress on your knees!
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    Originally Posted by 1armlifts View Post
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    Hear so many people .. squats hurt my knees and deads hurt my back .... prolly cuz you learned and/or are doing them wrong.
    Walking lunges suckass so do split squats.

    I avoid front squats like the plague but thats a different kind of pain.
    Originally Posted by ExtremeOne74 View Post
    Regarding knee pain during squats. People often don't realize that as long as you don't bounce or squat over your toes going deeper is actual safer for your knees. Think about it. Guys load up the bar with WAY too much weight (which unnecessarily compresses your spine but that's a different issue). Then they go part of the way down, slam on the breaks and quickly reverse. Talk about stress on your knees!
    I don't avoid squats completely, but I do them sparingly. To be completely honest, squats have always scared the crap out of me......even when I was younger and playing football in high school and college. I'm 6'6" and have been since my junior year of high school. That's a long way down and, more importantly, a loooooooong way back up. Fast forward to present day, and I am 42 years old with almost no cartilage left in my knees.......not pleasant at all. But I still squat. I just try to be wise enough to listen to my body and go lower weight or take a break for a couple of weeks as needed.
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    Damn you GAT and your beautiful JETMASS sale...didn't even need any right now.



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    You didn't get Black Cherry =(
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    You didn't get Black Cherry =(
    Hahaha your love for Black Cherry knows no bounds. I wasn't a big fan of that flavor though...Orange Creme is straight hnnnggg and Tropical Ice is a nice change up (one of the few fruit punch flavors in any sup that i actually enjoy).

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    Originally Posted by SOH11 View Post
    Hahaha your love for Black Cherry knows no bounds. I wasn't a big fan of that flavor though...Orange Creme is straight hnnnggg and Tropical Ice is a nice change up (one of the few fruit punch flavors in any sup that i actually enjoy).

    In the end though, JETMASS is just straight awesome. Doesn't really matter the flavor when the stuff works!
    Not sure if I missed something or not but the new JetMass Orange isn't as strong flavor wise IMO. Today was the first day I had it straight without the usually carbotein kicker .. kinda saddened me.
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    Black cherry is my favorite too
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    Originally Posted by bdillingham5 View Post
    A lot times those people are squatting with knees in or out and not tight like they should be OR with bad foot position.
    Agreed. Ever get pain around your elbow or inside of elbow? I only notice it the most when hitting a movement that utilizes a lot of bicep.
    For me, keeping my feet in a 'natural position' and focusing on keeping my legs tight inline down and up has helped my knees tremendously; progressing slowly but still progressing. Health and longevity are my goals. I haven't gotten any knee sleeves, but have considered them just for health and safety insurance. Wally World is selling those Brett Favre copper ones.

    Originally Posted by ExtremeOne74 View Post
    Try relaxing your grip. Sounds like tennis elbow. Wear straps whole doing back too.
    Same situation here. My left elbow has a constant soreness, left shoulder, too. I'm doing some rotator stretching before and chest or shoulder exercise to help.

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    Black cherry is my favorite too
    Word Black cherry anything GAT, just mix 'em all.
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    Black cherry is my favorite too
    That's because you have good taste
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    For me, keeping my feet in a 'natural position' and focusing on keeping my legs tight inline down and up has helped my knees tremendously; progressing slowly but still progressing. Health and longevity are my goals. I haven't gotten any knee sleeves, but have considered them just for health and safety insurance. Wally World is selling those Brett Favre copper ones.
    You will be surprised at how much support you get from a good set... It was like having a spring attached to my leg. I now know why there is so much argument between raw and assisted lifting.

    But being an old man, I use my knee and elbow sleeves on heavier sets...
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    Originally Posted by ExtremeOne74 View Post
    Black cherry is my favorite too
    Exercises, loads, etc for health/performance/athleticisim - or how to translate traditional 'bro' lifting into more functional. Can you still get a good aesthetic benefit? (Size & shape)
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    Great question. And YES! Look at the NFL, sprinters, etc. All have functional strength and plenty of stellar physiques. There are even many strongman and....I hate to admit it....crossfit athletes....who have amazing physiques. I love all compound movements, over movements, agility and core exercises. Much more than machine and cable work. Often the only thing keeping a,functionally strong football player or strongman from an amazing, lean physique is diet. These guys are athletes purposely eating for sheer size.
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    I love and have used at various points the Olympic lifts, high pulls, agility work. With good technique they are super beneficial to even bodybuilders.
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    Nothing wrong with dropping the reps down to 4 to 6 on these movements. Practice and perfect your technique and gradually increase weight.

    Squats, lunges, overhead presses. All functional. All tremendous exercises.
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    Write a book already, dude; so I can buy it and put right next to my Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding. It would be epic.

    Still learning. I took your A/B day program that you shared and added some variation but sticking to the primary movement types for each day; a kind of Strength/Hypertrophy/Performance(?) hybrid. 2 week cycles.
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    Originally Posted by InfiniteRecomp View Post
    Write a book already, dude; so I can buy it and put right next to my Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding. It would be epic.

    Still learning. I took your A/B day program that you shared and added some variation but sticking to the primary movement types for each day; a kind of Strength/Hypertrophy/Performance(?) hybrid. 2 week cycles.
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    Originally Posted by InfiniteRecomp View Post
    Write a book already, dude; so I can buy it and put right next to my Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding. It would be epic.

    Still learning. I took your A/B day program that you shared and added some variation but sticking to the primary movement types for each day; a kind of Strength/Hypertrophy/Performance(?) hybrid. 2 week cycles.
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    Originally Posted by InfiniteRecomp View Post
    Write a book already, dude; so I can buy it and put right next to my Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding. It would be epic.

    Still learning. I took your A/B day program that you shared and added some variation but sticking to the primary movement types for each day; a kind of Strength/Hypertrophy/Performance(?) hybrid. 2 week cycles.
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