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    Originally Posted by Dr.P View Post
    Is IDS associated with IBE, perhaps?

    No, but they have like 45 different shell companies. Personally I've suspected for a longtime that EvolutionLabs is a direct shell of IDS as well....although the guy at IDS denied it till he was blue in the face, there are too many connections between the two for it to just be a coincidence.
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    so it is a bad idea to order a SERM right now?
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    Originally Posted by ElMariachi View Post
    No, but they have like 45 different shell companies. Personally I've suspected for a longtime that EvolutionLabs is a direct shell of IDS as well....although the guy at IDS denied it till he was blue in the face, there are too many connections between the two for it to just be a coincidence.
    I suspected that too.. I thought it was just a coincidence until more and more of these other "shell" companies just started showing it. I'm not 100% set on it but I would say its a good prediction.

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    Originally Posted by twista318 View Post
    so it is a bad idea to order a SERM right now?
    prolly not a good a idea
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    Originally Posted by samsam12341 View Post
    I suspected that too.. I thought it was just a coincidence until more and more of these other "shell" companies just started showing it. I'm not 100% set on it but I would say its a good prediction.

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    Juggernaut and Weber are two of their shell companies for sure.
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    Originally Posted by samsam12341 View Post
    I suspected that too.. I thought it was just a coincidence until more and more of these other "shell" companies just started showing it. I'm not 100% set on it but I would say its a good prediction.

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    There are many shell companies out there. I've often thought about starting a shell company informationj thread. This way, if there if something goes wrong the consumer will know who to contact or sue.
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    Originally Posted by deserusan View Post
    There are many shell companies out there. I've often thought about starting a shell company informationj thread. This way, if there if something goes wrong the consumer will know who to contact or sue.


    Well, I can start it, as I'm not affiliated with anyone, and people can send me their info through PM, along with evidence that shows that the shell is linked to the main company.
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    Originally Posted by ElMariachi View Post
    Juggernaut and Weber are two of their shell companies for sure.
    Well I wouldn't have thought Juggernaut to be honest but Weber for sure. Weber, Evolabs, and IDS have to be the same company hands down. I have my thoughts on CEL and who the mother company of that shell hole is too
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    Originally Posted by deserusan View Post
    There are many shell companies out there. I've often thought about starting a shell company informationj thread. This way, if there if something goes wrong the consumer will know who to contact or sue.
    Not a bad idea... Why do I want to think the FDA would then know who to contact about this matter? It would probibly happen too.
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    Originally Posted by samsam12341 View Post
    Not a bad idea... Why do I want to think the FDA would then know who to contact about this matter? It would probibly happen too.
    This would certainly piss off a lot of companies on here. Especially the ones with "good guy" images.
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    Originally Posted by samsam12341 View Post
    Well I wouldn't have thought Juggernaut to be honest but Weber for sure. Weber, Evolabs, and IDS have to be the same company hands down. I have my thoughts on CEL and who the mother company of that shell hole is too

    Competitive edge labs or Cutting Edge Labs. Because I know who is behind Competitive Edge Labs, or at least I have a pretty good suspicion.
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    Originally Posted by ElMariachi View Post
    Because I know who is behind Competitive Edge Labs, or at least I have a pretty good suspicion.
    Your suspicion is probably true. Go figure Comp Edge likes to put down Novedex on other forums but recommend it's parent company's ATD product. Like we don't know!
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    Originally Posted by ElMariachi View Post
    Competitive edge labs or Cutting Edge Labs. Because I know who is behind Competitive Edge Labs, or at least I have a pretty good suspicion.
    Raises hand, who, who who who. PM please.
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    Originally Posted by deserusan View Post
    Your suspicion is probably true. Go figure Comp Edge likes to put down Novedex on other forums but recommend it's parent company's ATD product. Like we don't know!
    ;o the parent company is supposed to be "reputable" too. How reputable is producing PH's under a shell company and not even admitting to it? I guess they really just want to make a quick buck eh?

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    Originally Posted by ElMariachi View Post
    Well, I can start it, as I'm not affiliated with anyone, and people can send me their info through PM, along with evidence that shows that the shell is linked to the main company.
    Originally Posted by deserusan View Post
    This would certainly piss off a lot of companies on here. Especially the ones with "good guy" images.
    Do it. I am not a big fan of shells if its just to sell a PH. I know a few that could be added to the list I am out of town but could get the "info" around the 8th when I get back.
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    Originally Posted by -=BigSmith=- View Post
    Do it. I am not a big fan of shells if its just to sell a PH. I know a few that could be added to the list
    It would get messy but would be awfully funny.
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    Originally Posted by -=BigSmith=- View Post
    Do it. I am not a big fan of shells if its just to sell a PH. I know a few that could be added to the list I am out of town but could get the "info" around the 8th when I get back.
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    It would get messy but would be awfully funny.



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    It would get messy but would be awfully funny.
    I'm thinking the same thing...
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    Your suspicion is probably true. Go figure Comp Edge likes to put down Novedex on other forums but recommend it's parent company's ATD product. Like we don't know!
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    Originally Posted by envythahustla View Post
    If you are assuming what I think you are then you are totally wrong.
    LOL. Come on Envy, everyone knows. It's not a secret.
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    LOL.
    I had a feeling I knew what you were getting at. Comp Edge Labs only posts on one board that I know of and I have seen them recommend Inhibit-E. So what are you getting at?
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    Well I wouldn't have thought Juggernaut to be honest but Weber for sure. Weber, Evolabs, and IDS have to be the same company hands down. I have my thoughts on CEL and who the mother company of that shell hole is too

    what's the benefit of making three companies from one?
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    Originally Posted by Dr.P View Post
    what's the benefit of making three companies from one?
    Liability.
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    Originally Posted by deserusan View Post
    LOL. Come on Envy, everyone knows. It's not a secret.
    Right......

    Edit - I didn't catch your first edit at the top.
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    wow! This is probably not the greatest thing that could have happened for the supplement industry.
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    Originally Posted by Customizer View Post
    I am utterly disappointed that the mock site setup in this thing is not carrying my line
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    To the normal and average customer like me and my friends, what does this imply?
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    Originally Posted by PanzeR- View Post
    To the normal and average customer like me and my friends, what does this imply?
    Nothing at all yet. Maybe nothing ever. Maybe just an end to designers...hard to say?
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