4 years for self defense .."Proud Boys" vs Antifa

[SillieBazzillie]

Damn Antifa has the police, judges, and prosecutors on their side.

Weird, I'd have thought that at least the police and prosecutors wouldn't like Antifa?

Or maybe it's just that extreme conservative groups are just more way more violent? Going by who's killed people and been arrested I'm going to answer a resounding yes.

[Dave22reborn]

Damn Antifa has the police, judges, and prosecutors on their side.

Weird, I'd have thought that at least the police and prosecutors wouldn't like Antifa?

Or maybe it's just that extreme conservative groups are just more way more violent? Going by who's killed people and been arrested I'm going to answer a resounding yes.

The professor with the bike lock, how many years did he get again?

[Sakeoe]

They weren't charged because they got away.

That's not the fault of the judicial system.

Depends how you look at it. They get away because prosecution doesn't consider tracking down Antifa members a priority.

[BredRoller]

Good luck with that cuck, keep turning the other cheek while youre being raped.

LOL. I didn't see give in to what they're doing and take it up the azz. I'm just saying, don't play identity politics and be a huge ******* just to sink to their level.

[sloop]

Both Kinsman and Hare apologized for their conduct during the Manhattan Supreme Court sentencing. “I’m sorry about the whole mess. I regret the entire incident,” said Kinsman, who is married with three children. “I made a mistake.”

In a similar statement, Hare told the judge, “I made a mistake that night. I made quick decisions. I’m sorry.”

They both testified at trial that they acted in self-defense.

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As the Proud Boys neared East 82nd Street, they saw six suspected Antifa protesters, clad in back, heading toward them.

Instead of walking away, the defendants and their pals sprinted more than 100 feet toward their foes, instigating the fight, Steinglass said.

Retards: detected

Rushing towards a fight isn't a "mistake" nor is it self defense, dummies. Strong logic.

Grabbing 2% milk by accident instead of whole milk is a mistake.

Mistakenly calling your wife by an ex-girlfriend's name is a mistake.

Rushing towards an adversary after you were told to leave is a calculated, defined decision. They made bad decisions.


Also, I cant believe people go to protests like this. Nothing good ever comes from it, are they so attention starved they need to draw attention to themselves?

edit: for fun - my day in pictures at the Republic National Convention protests https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...hp?t=172010053

[Procta]

Retards: detected

Rushing towards a fight isn't a "mistake" nor is it self defense, dummies. Strong logic.

Grabbing 2% milk by accident instead of whole milk is a mistake.

Mistakenly calling your wife by an ex-girlfriend's name is a mistake.

Rushing towards an adversary after you were told to leave is a calculated, defined decision. They made bad decisions.


Also, I cant believe people go to protests like this. Nothing good ever comes from it, are they so attention starved they need to draw attention to themselves?

edit: for fun - my day in pictures at the Republic National Convention protests https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...hp?t=172010053

so 4 years is good on a fight with no one pressing charges besides the state ?

[Dave22reborn]

so 4 years is good on a fight with no one pressing charges besides the state ?

Gotta love liberal utopias....

[GreatOldOne]

Depends how you look at it. They get away because prosecution doesn't consider tracking down Antifa members a priority.

Question begging

[kingmanaverage]

Judges are supposed to be fair and impartial.

Life is unfair. Someone who shows up to court wearing baggy jeans, a basketball jersey and a backwards cap, is more likely to get harshly sentenced than someone who shows up looking more professional in a suit and tie. No one is truly impartial.

[RobParks2M]

The victims in the case were never identified, and Antifa refused to cooperate with the investigation. Prosecutors said that if they could have located the Antifa members, they would have also been charged.

So basically they are admitting it is better to walk around with your face covered so you cannot be found by the state and punished for nothing?

[Stizzel]

Life is unfair. Someone who shows up to court wearing baggy jeans, a basketball jersey and a backwards cap, is more likely to get harshly sentenced than someone who shows up looking more professional in a suit and tie. No one is truly impartial.

Which is why the law should be market driven rather than implemented via state monopoly. Competition is the only real way to hold anyone accountable. Theres no way these ridiculous kangaroo courts could endure if people had the ability to choose an alternative

[cashinout]

Damn Antifa has the police, judges, and prosecutors on their side.

Weird, I'd have thought that at least the police and prosecutors wouldn't like Antifa?

Or maybe it's just that extreme conservative groups are just more way more violent? Going by who's killed people and been arrested I'm going to answer a resounding yes.

People like you should definitely continue to fan the flames too, using anti-white and anti-American rhetoric

it'll calm them down and civility will return

[sloop]

so 4 years is good on a fight with no one pressing charges besides the state ?

Did they knowingly and willingly ignore the police and break the law?

[Procta]

Did they knowingly and willingly ignore the police and break the law?

does that punishment fit they crime

[sloop]

does that punishment fit they crime

Im neither a prosecutor or judge. If the law allows for that level of punishment, that's not my problem. If you dont like the punishment, don't do the crime no?

We also don't know the full story. Was this their 1st violent offense? 8th offense? Do they have a history or this kind of stupid behavior?

The fact that they lied (likely under oath) citing this as "self defense" - should be a concern as well.

[eltoro24]

Here's the deal. Were they attacked first? If it's true that they sprinted toward them and started throwing hands then yeah, it was a dumb ass decision. Four years, though? Maybe 90 days in the county, six months even. You cannot be the first one to fire off. You're never going to win in court.

There is a video of it. Not searching for it though lol.

They sprint towards a group and about 15ft left one of the antifa members chucks a water bottle at them. Then it pops off.

4 years is pretty step though should probably be more like 6 years probation.

[Procta]

Im neither a prosecutor or judge. If the law allows for that level of punishment, that's not my problem. If you dont like the punishment, don't do the crime no?

We also don't know the full story. Was this their 1st violent offense? 8th offense? Do they have a history or this kind of stupid behavior?

The fact that they lied (likely under oath) citing this as "self defense" - should be a concern as well.

that was pretty much the whole point of this thread 4 years for fighting it pretty excessive and heaving indications that it was a politically motivated sentencing

[Techriding101]

This should be a lesson to anyone who plans on ever defending themselves in public, protect your identity because the state is not on your side.

[PowersKenny]

Bottom line, if you walk around in masks you are a pansy, you mess with a lion you will get eaten

[skinnybig2]

what an absolute joke, no wonder ANTIFA keep doing this chit.

the cucks leave them alone.

If you are "right wing" conservative whatever then the system is against you. It's not much different than when blacks were marching for civil rights and their protest leaders would tell them not to fight back because as soon as you fight back that's all the other side will talk about. Fighting for your rights against a corrupt system will mean jail time.

[PowersKenny]

You're truly terrible at utilizing logic. MMA and Boxing are sports, not street brawls between idiots that are way too old, way to dumb, and have way too much time on their hands.

You are as dumb as you look, mma/ boxing is a street brawl,. It was that before it came a sport you numb idiot

[NitrogenWidget]

Here's the deal. Were they attacked first? If it's true that they sprinted toward them and started throwing hands then yeah, it was a dumb ass decision. Four years, though? Maybe 90 days in the county, six months even. You cannot be the first one to fire off. You're never going to win in court.

I agree.

though apparently you don't even go to court if you wear a mask while doing it.

[kingmanaverage]

You are as dumb as you look, mma/ boxing is a street brawl,. It was that before it came a sport you numb idiot

mma fighters are paid athletes you dolt. What he said is completely correct.

[SillieBazzillie]

The professor with the bike lock, how many years did he get again?

Did he kill or badly hurt anyone? Prior record? See, while you cultist see everything in black and white (hehe of course) many factors go into sentencing or convictions.

[Polaris]

Did he kill or badly hurt anyone? Prior record? See, while you cultist see everything in black and white (hehe of course) many factors go into sentencing or convictions.

Do you apply the same logic to blacks supposedly getting longer sentences or is it simply "systemic racism" in that case?

[anonymous]

Did he kill or badly hurt anyone? Prior record? See, while you cultist see everything in black and white (hehe of course) many factors go into sentencing or convictions.

He cracked several peoples heads open with a deadly weapon, then openly violated his parole conditions.

I guess you're ok with his white privilege protecting him from the consequences of his actions.

[Stizzel]

that was pretty much the whole point of this thread 4 years for fighting it pretty excessive and heaving indications that it was a politically motivated sentencing

I heard the judge said something about nazi germany in his ruling

Also apparently this was imspired by racism even though these commies were all white

[Stizzel]

Did he kill or badly hurt anyone? Prior record? See, while you cultist see everything in black and white (hehe of course) many factors go into sentencing or convictions.

He cracked some random guy's skull open without provocation. What he did could have killed him. But no big whoop right

[SillieBazzillie]

He cracked some random guy's skull open without provocation. What he did could have killed him. But no big whoop right

Is the guy bigly hurt? If we get in a fight and I beat you down, I could have killed you but didn't. If I had no priors I wouldn't go to jail.

[SillieBazzillie]

He cracked several peoples heads open with a deadly weapon, then openly violated his parole conditions.

I guess you're ok with his white privilege protecting him from the consequences of his actions.

lmfao. A bike lock is now a deadly weapon? Boy oh boy oh boy conservatives are as soft as phuk these days.

"deadly weapon" bahahahahaha

And you have to go back.