Palestine at the UN today (29th Nov. 2012) to be recognized

[Dave22reborn]

So you want them to stop supplying water and electricity?

And the Palestinians are meant to be the barbaric ones

Why does Israel have to supply them with anything? Its gotta hurt their pride, to be supported by DA ZIONISTS!!!!!

[AA43560]

Why does Israel have to supply them with anything? Its gotta hurt their pride, to be supported by DA ZIONISTS!!!!!

They dont have to

But in that case they shouldnt prevent Palestine from being self sufficient. When you prevent someone from drinking water and you refuse to give them water yourself, you are commiting a warcrime and israel knows this

[Ikeman83]

You must be jewish...or retarded. They are somewhat interchangeable.

Neither nor.

Please read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism#History

[Ikeman83]

They dont have to

But in that case they shouldnt prevent Palestine from being self sufficient. When you prevent someone from drinking water and you refuse to give them water yourself, you are commiting a warcrime and israel knows this

I'm not sure that that's a war crime. It's certainly against the UN Charter.

[flairon]

Neither nor.

Please read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism#History

Just so i got this straight...you want me to read a user edited document as though it is historically accurate...even when it is contrary to actual history?

Yeah..no.

[MuscleGunner]

1. Because jews basically kicked out the people living there. land is amazingly cheap when you run out the owners.
2. Palestine is referenced by area and name as far back as 1150 bce in egyptian text.
3. Lord balfour championed the setting up of the israeli state

take your jewish bullsh*t somewhere else squatter..i'm not buying.

First point is too blant of BS to even refer to. 2nd point, you ignorant ****. The name Palestine is in Latin not Arabic, and was named by the Roman empire after they were pissed about the Jewish rebelion. It was named after the Philisites (sp?) from the bible, not Arabs. Also, it only refers to the land, you won't find any historical refrence to a state named Palestine because there was never such a state. Lord Blafour's declartion was very much for the state of Israel but the British goverment withdraw from that statement later.
Go read a book on the treadmill.

[Ikeman83]

Just so i got this straight...you want me to read a user edited document as though it is historically accurate...even when it is contrary to actual history?

Yeah..no.

I'd provide you references to a book or two on the genesis of the middle eastern states, but if you're going to assume that any source I provide is biased or historically inaccurate, why bother?

[Madridistan]

Sure, but they should not be given a say in the UN until they come to peace terms with Israel which would include Hamas recognizing Israel's right to exist.

Khaled Meshal
"I am the leader of Hamas. I tell you and the whole world, we are ready to resort to a peaceful way, without blood and weapons as long as we attain our Palestinian demands: a Palestinian state and the ending of the occupation and the (West Bank separation) wall."

[Madridistan]

Those are called Naturei Karta, extremist jews that are pieces of chit that don't support Israel JUST BECAUSE they don't believe that Jews should live in israel until the messiah comes and rebuilds the temple (not because the palestinians deserve to live there.)


This is a joke, glad the US and Canada didn't follow suit with all the rest of the countries.

inb4 HURR DURR CONTROLLED BY ZIONISTS

No, they know what they were doing. They know that Israel is their ONLY TRUE ALLY in the middle east. Look at all the chit that's been happening with teh arab states, they can't even live amongst each other without killing one another

actually Canada has a conservative prime minister with jewish connections(his wife etc), the population of canada doesnt agree with Harper.

[gimmedat]

Can you tell us why Palestine can't be given the right to be officially recognized by the likes of the US and others? - you know, those nations from the Free world ?

Don't you think it's a bit hypocritical of them to deny the Palestinians that basic, human tenet ?

They ARE terrorists.

[flairon]

I'd provide you references to a book or two on the genesis of the middle eastern states, but if you're going to assume that any source I provide is biased or historically inaccurate, why bother?

If you're going to assume that wikipedia is a legitimate reference point in something like this...you're right..why bother.

[flairon]

First point is too blant of BS to even refer to. 2nd point, you ignorant ****. The name Palestine is in Latin not Arabic, and was named by the Roman empire after they were pissed about the Jewish rebelion. It was named after the Philisites (sp?) from the bible, not Arabs. Also, it only refers to the land, you won't find any historical refrence to a state named Palestine because there was never such a state. Lord Blafour's declartion was very much for the state of Israel but the British goverment withdraw from that statement later.
Go read a book on the treadmill.

Aww...someone's getting their ass handed to them and resorting to personal attacks. That's adorable.

So you're saying that the ONLY even remotely legitimate reason for jews to be in the Land of Palestine referenced as such before Israel was even around, The Balfour declaration, was actually withdrawn by the U.K....but Jews still moved in and took that land through violence and straight out theft anyway?

And how does that make Jews NOT land lying land thieves again?

And if the U.K. withdrew support of Balfour's declaration, why did they provide you with support again in '47 and push for the declaration of a Jewish state?

You're so full of shit even you are shooting your own story full of holes. You're land thieves and you know it. And yet you expect sympathy and support when the people who don't want you in their back yards attack you? Enjoy your incoming rockets and detonating school bus. You deserve every single one of them.

[Zedbimmer]

Just out of curiosity how many people does it take to justify a state?

If there was no Holocaust that would have left only a few thousand Jews to create the state of Israel, would there have been a legitimate reason to have a state? Seeing that they all knew where to go and how to get there in a time where no one knew how to get from Mississippi to Texas of bat, was the mass movement to Palestine pre planned? or was it just a coincidence that it only took a few yrs to develop a state worthy of defending itself while surviving atrocities?

[primetime32]

You must be jewish...or retarded. They are somewhat interchangeable.

Its funny that some of you try to portray jews as controlling the world and at the same time now we are "retarded." For a "retarded" people we sure have come a long way.

[flairon]

Its funny that some of you try to portray jews as controlling the world and at the same time now we are "retarded." For a "retarded" people we sure have come a long way.

No, i don't think jews control the world, they don't have the backbone or ability to do that, thats why they needed the UK to set up israel, because you couldn't do it. Thats why they have the U.S. do their fighting for you, because you can't do it. Jews are just manipulative little dirtballs that have gotten the sh*t kicked out of them by just about every people on this planet except africans and Palestinians and the only reason the Muslims have squashed you out of existence...again...is thanks to the west.

You're welcome.

Your retardation comes in with a total disregard for actual documented history and blind acceptance for re-written jewish 'history.'

[MuscleGunner]

Its funny that some of you try to portray jews as controlling the world and at the same time now we are "retarded." For a "retarded" people we sure have come a long way.

flairon, and a couple of other anti Israeli posters, have no intrest in logic or truth. He doesn't even like the Arabs. People like him are just modern day anti semites. Being bitter and illogical is very common amongst racists. His only point is to try and provoke people into giving him online attention, probably because he has a very sad personal life. Don't take him seriously.

[flairon]

flairon, and a couple of other anti Israeli posters, have no intrest in logic or truth. He doesn't even like the Arabs. People like him are just modern day anti semites. Being bitter and illogical is very common amongst racists. His only point is to try and provoke people into giving him online attention, probably because he has a very sad personal life. Don't take him seriously.

There we go...anti-semites. I'm surprised it took you this long to throw that card out there.

You either have no concept of history and 'truth' or you refused to accept it. Ever wonder why it is so may civilizations through time have slaughtered or enslaved the jews? Do you really think its been for no good reason at all? I mean if it were just a couple random guys, you could write it off as crackpots. If it were just one nation, meh..everyone doesn't always equal. But I don't think you can even count how many different ENTIRE civiliizations have kicked the sh*t out of you over the course of recorded history and they always come back to the same reason. If you have all kinds of people from all walks of life, multiple civilizations all coming at you for the same reasons over and over again, you have to be really deluded if you think all of them are just haters.

[primetime32]

No, i don't think jews control the world, they don't have the backbone or ability to do that, thats why they needed the UK to set up israel, because you couldn't do it. Thats why they have the U.S. do their fighting for you, because you can't do it. Jews are just manipulative little dirtballs that have gotten the sh*t kicked out of them by just about every people on this planet except africans and Palestinians and the only reason the Muslims have squashed you out of existence...again...is thanks to the west.

You're welcome.

Your retardation comes in with a total disregard for actual documented history and blind acceptance for re-written jewish 'history.'

Aww, someone is jealous of the Jewish people and all we have accomplished despite our limited numbers while Arabs/Muslims opt to slaughter each other and blow each other up in great numbers places like Syria. Inb4 Israel/Jews are responsible for all the deaths in Syria.

[flairon]

Aww, someone is jealous of the Jewish people and all we have accomplished despite our limited numbers while Arabs/Muslims opt to slaughter each other and blow each other up in great numbers places like Syria. Inb4 Israel/Jews are responsible for all the deaths in Syria.

You have accomplished nothing that someone else didn't do the hard work for you. Nada. You needed someone else to save you from extermination in the 40's, you needed someone else to set up your country, you needed someone else's weapons to defend it, you need someone else to fight the threat of Iran.

On your own, you lifespan could be documented with an egg-timer.

[NoFXN]

You have accomplished nothing that someone else didn't do the hard work for you. Nada. You needed someone else to save you from extermination in the 40's, you needed someone else to set up your country, you needed someone else's weapons to defend it, you need someone else to fight the threat of Iran.

On your own, you lifespan could be documented with an egg-timer.

Although, you are pretty racist I have to lol at how worked up you get the Israelis.

[primetime32]

You have accomplished nothing that someone else didn't do the hard work for you. Nada. You needed someone else to save you from extermination in the 40's, you needed someone else to set up your country, you needed someone else's weapons to defend it, you need someone else to fight the threat of Iran.

On your own, you lifespan could be documented with an egg-timer.

The jealousy is strong with this one.

[BalkanPrince]

Palestinians: "**** this, you don't stop settlements... we will fire rockets!"
Israelis: "No, this is not an acceptable solution... punish em!"

Palestinians: "Okay, if you don't stop settlements... we will go to the UN for statehood recognition"
Israelis: "No, this is not an acceptable solution... punish em!"

Palestinians: "Lets negotiate a two-state solution together... but first stop the settlements"
Israelis: "No, this is not an acceptable solution... punish em!"


The only solution Israel is considering is the one that ends with Palestinians being completely cleansed from that land. No matter how you flip it, Israel will never... ever settle. They are expanding into the West Bank for a ****ing reason. Bibi has already stated that Israel cannot go back to the old border because it is well into West Bank. lol.... brb "yea we sadly cannot settle for a resolution because we keep breaking it".

[flairon]

Although, you are pretty racist I have to lol at how worked up you get the Israelis.

I'm not racist or worked up. Like 90% of the rest of the world I'm tired of hearing the jews AND the muslims bitch and whine about sh*t that both sides bring on themselves



This is the answer to everyone's problems

[abdus]

The jealousy is strong with this one.

lmao. He does go off limits in some of his posts, but for this one, you didn't have a comeback, so you just post about jealousy implying that you agree with what he said and the facts he gave are why he is jealous

[NoFXN]

I'm not racist or worked up. Like 90% of the rest of the world I'm tired of hearing the jews AND the muslims bitch and whine about sh*t that both sides bring on themselves



This is the answer to everyone's problems

I could just as easily say the US/British are the problem.

The British are the worst at partition.

[flairon]

I could just as easily say the US/British are the problem.

The British are the worst at partition.

And I agree. The british and the U.S. should pull out of the middle east completely, let both groups of monkeys go at each other. Probably in about 6 months Jerusalem would be a smoking patch in the desert but not before 90% of Palestinians were in shallow graves or rotting in the streets of Gaza. It would be a glorious and quite peaceful day for the rest of the world who doesn't give a sh*t about this fight over useless dirt based upon a fairy tale that has caused more unrest in the world than any other individual point on the map.

[primetime32]

lmao. He does go off limits in some of his posts, but for this one, you didn't have a comeback, so you just post about jealousy implying that you agree with what he said and the facts he gave are why he is jealous

I suppose I could have posted all of the jewish Nobel Prize winners in Science in comparison to Arab/Muslim Nobel Prize winners in Science and then I could have gone on to point out that Jews have made these great contributions despite there being far many more Muslims/Arabs. I also could have pointed out that while Jews are helping society, as a whole, Arabs/Muslims in Syria blow each other up on a daily basis. Instead I chose the reference to Star Wars. My bad.

[primetime32]

And I agree. The british and the U.S. should pull out of the middle east completely, let both groups of monkeys go at each other. Probably in about 6 months Jerusalem would be a smoking patch in the desert but not before 90% of Palestinians were in shallow graves or rotting in the streets of Gaza. It would be a glorious and quite peaceful day for the rest of the world who doesn't give a sh*t about this fight over useless dirt based upon a fairy tale that has caused more unrest in the world than any other individual point on the map.

"I don't care about this damn region, so I will constantly post in threads discussing the region."- Flairon Logic.

[NoFXN]

And I agree. The british and the U.S. should pull out of the middle east completely, let both groups of monkeys go at each other. Probably in about 6 months Jerusalem would be a smoking patch in the desert but not before 90% of Palestinians were in shallow graves or rotting in the streets of Gaza. It would be a glorious and quite peaceful day for the rest of the world who doesn't give a sh*t about this fight over useless dirt based upon a fairy tale that has caused more unrest in the world than any other individual point on the map.

If they did pull out the regional situation would improve eventually. It is foreign intervention that really handicaps these countries. Propping up dictators that do nothing to help their people is a great example. Thank god for the Arab spring, it will take time but this will eventually be a positive development.

[flairon]

I suppose I could have posted all of the jewish Nobel Prize winners in Science in comparison to Arab/Muslim Nobel Prize winners in Science and then I could have gone on to point out that Jews have made these great contributions despite there being far many more Muslims/Arabs. I also could have pointed out that while Jews are helping society, as a whole, Arabs/Muslims in Syria blow each other up on a daily basis. Instead I chose the reference to Star Wars. My bad.

Who cares?

How about you post the number of Jewish nobel prize winners actually from Israel. Thats a total of 1. The rest were born in or went to other countries that actually had the facilities to educate them and support their work instead of trying to further their work while living in the pisshole that is Israel. And while the larger portion of Jewish nobel prize laureates were off in other countries leeching off their resources to gain recognition mostly in economics or other areas that would lead to them gaining wealth, the largest portion of the Muslim nobel prize laureates were recognized for their work in Peace.

So between these two groups, who really wants peace.