IIFYM Post Workout Meal by KanevskyFitness

[xpin2winx]

i used to be a huge follower of IIFYM. But when i just didnt have access to junk food in my house, i was forced to learn how to cook healthy meals. The difference i feel in eating clean nutrient dense foods compared to KFC or other ****, is black and white. I still follow IIFYM but its not like i want to, im busy as fuk when it comes to school, gym, and work. its conveinant to eat ramen.

[npcSHWchamp2016]

Brb eating whatever I want, hitting macros, staying lean all year long.


problem?

Nope. You quoted it yourself.

"If you don't care about how your body looks but just want to be a smaller person and a certain weight then by all means IIFYM could be the diet for you."

[EricKanevskiy]

i used to be a huge follower of IIFYM. But when i just didnt have access to junk food in my house, i was forced to learn how to cook healthy meals. The difference i feel in eating clean nutrient dense foods compared to KFC or other ****, is black and white.

There's no such thing as "healthy meals." Also, you were probably doing it like a retard, ate low quality fats and proteins, and had a micronutrient deficiency.

[drummaboyyyy]

Nope. You quoted it yourself.

"If you don't care about how your body looks but just want to be a smaller person and a certain weight then by all means IIFYM could be the diet for you."

2 month join date.

[EricKanevskiy]

2 month join date.

Pretty sure he's a troll. In another thread, he said that I should read FLEX Magazine for bodybuilding information, take Nitro-tech between meals because Jay Cutler does it, and pro bodybuilders are not on steroids; they just work hard.

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2 month join date.

2 year join date

[drummaboyyyy]

Pretty sure he's a troll. In another thread, he said that I should read FLEX Magazine for bodybuilding information, take Nitro-tech between meals because Jay Cutler does it, and pro bodybuilders are not on steroids; they just work hard.

He's wrong. for faster absorption you should "SNORT" tech.

[Gink]

Pretty sure he's a troll. In another thread, he said that I should read FLEX Magazine for bodybuilding information, take Nitro-tech between meals because Jay Cutler does it, and pro bodybuilders are not on steroids; they just work hard.

maybe you should take nitro-tech, whatever you're doing isn't working

and pro bodybuilders do work hard

you don't see ronnie coleman eating sour patch kids bro

[drummaboyyyy]

2 year join date

06 brah..not many lurkin around anymore





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[Francis333]

Bunch of people on here that get sub-par results because of this type of thinking.

The calories and carbs you get from a jelly donut are not equal to those you get from oatmeal, potato or rice. The bottom line is to eat clean, unprocessed foods. Eating garbage like the stuff you talk about should be saved for cheat meals and rewarding yourself for hard work.

If you don't care about how your body looks but just want to be a smaller person and a certain weight then by all means IIFYM could be the diet for you. If you have want to have a shredded six pack and a hard look to your body, eating whatever you want just because the cals are there isn't going to cut it.

You can't get a "shredded six pack" from eating jelly donuts? Please provide a cohesive argument as to why the source of calories determines body composition (assuming same macros)

[Francis333]

Brb eating whatever I want, hitting macros, staying lean all year long.


problem?

Strong this.

"The calories and carbs you get from a jelly donut are not equal to those you get from oatmeal" Please explain.

[npcSHWchamp2016]

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The guys in the above pictures are all natural and got below 5% bodyfat by following IIFYM. You were saying?

The guys in the above pictures are not natural and got below 5% bodyfat by not following IIFYM. You were saying?

This is just turning into a difference in goals. I could care less what those nattys did or do. At the end of the day I can't even recognize a single one and they will fall off the face of the earth one day as guys who didn't even look like they lifted in a shirt. I look towards the methods of successful IFBB pros and model my training/diet off of them. Yea everyone is different but it's the general concepts that are important. By promoting this IIFYM diet to anyone and everyone on these forums you are negatively impacting the progress of many teens that want to actually be successful one day and win some professional shows instead of being 175 5% after 10 years of training.

Like I said, If you don't care about how your body looks but just want to be a smaller person and a certain weight then by all means IIFYM could be the diet for you.

[BBqChicken1]

The calories and carbs you get from a jelly donut are not equal to those you get from oatmeal, potato or rice.

They all eventually turn into glucose.

The bottom line is to eat clean, unprocessed foods.

So you're saying we should avoid supplements, like whey protein?

Eating garbage like the stuff you talk about should be saved for cheat meals and rewarding yourself for hard work.

So basically eating 'garbage' in moderation.. That's IIFYM. Herp derp.

[/QUOTE]


Let's see which diet is going to get you better results.

Diet 1. Consuming nothing but pasta. That's a 'clean food' so technically it's ok to eat. Hold on for a second, that leaves you with very little protein, fats, and important micronutrients.


Diet 2. Consuming a wide variety of foods you enjoy, that hit all your protein, fats and carbs, getting all your fiber, vitamins and minerals, but allowing 10-20% of processed foods.



Please respond.



By the way, there is anecdotal evidence on both sides, many great transformations, but there's science behind only one of them.

[Francis333]

Oh, here it begins. The greatest IIFYM argument of all time. Inb4 45pg thread

Lawl'd. Inb4 GoingTilFailure 2.0

[watwut]

You can't get a "shredded six pack" from eating jelly donuts

If that was literally all you ate, probably not.

You would get low body fat sure, but the muscle just wouldn't be there due to lack of proteinz.

You'd probably end up like:



At best. That definitley isn't shredded.

[Francis333]

They all eventually turn into glucose.



So you're saying we should avoid supplements, like whey protein?



So basically eating 'garbage' in moderation.. That's IIFYM. Herp derp.

Let's see which diet is going to get you better results.

Diet 1. Consuming nothing but pasta. That's a 'clean food' so technically it's ok to eat. Hold on for a second, that leaves you with very little protein, fats, and important micronutrients.


Diet 2. Consuming a wide variety of foods you enjoy, that hit all your protein, fats and carbs, getting all your fiber, vitamins and minerals, but allowing 10-20% of processed foods.



Please respond.



By the way, there is anecdotal evidence on both sides, many great transformations, but there's science behind only one of them.[/QUOTE]

This. LOL at people who try to oppose IIFYM.

[EricKanevskiy]

If that was literally all you ate, probably not.

You would get low body fat sure, but the muscle just wouldn't be there due to lack of proteinz.

Nobody's suggesting that you only eat jelly donuts, moron.

[drummaboyyyy]

The guys in the above pictures are not natural and got below 5% bodyfat by not following IIFYM. You were saying?

This is just turning into a difference in goals. I could care less what those nattys did or do. At the end of the day I can't even recognize a single one and they will fall off the face of the earth one day as guys who didn't even look like they lifted in a shirt. I look towards the methods of successful IFBB pros and model my training/diet off of them. Yea everyone is different but it's the general concepts that are important. By promoting this IIFYM diet to anyone and everyone on these forums you are negatively impacting the progress of many teens that want to actually be successful one day and win some professional shows instead of being 175 5% after 10 years of training.

Like I said, If you don't care about how your body looks but just want to be a smaller person and a certain weight then by all means IIFYM could be the diet for you.

You will never become close to the size of an ifbb pro. sorry little buddy.

[watwut]

Nobody's suggesting that you only eat jelly donuts, moron.

Notice how I said if that was literally all you ate. Meaning my post was assuming if all you ate was jelly donuts.

No need to get angry

[npcSHWchamp2016]

You can't get a "shredded six pack" from eating jelly donuts? Please provide a cohesive argument as to why the source of calories determines body composition (assuming same macros)

Stats: 5'11", 163 lbs

Not gonna argue with some kid that looks like shit.

Dump the crossfit or p90x or whatever it is that you're doing and do some lifts that actually promote growth.

This is the problem with you guys. Until you can show me a successful IFBB pro that clearly states "I approve of IIFYM." I'm not gonna even gonna consider it. I don't give a **** how many studies or 175lb. natural lifters eating poptarts you post, I have goals set higher than that. Meanwhile we got little 160lb. kids running around spouting IIFYM this and IIFYM like it's the next coming of jesus.

[BBqChicken1]

The guys in the above pictures are not natural and got below 5% bodyfat by not following IIFYM. You were saying?

This is just turning into a difference in goals. I could care less what those nattys did or do. At the end of the day I can't even recognize a single one and they will fall off the face of the earth one day as guys who didn't even look like they lifted in a shirt. I look towards the methods of successful IFBB pros and model my training/diet off of them. Yea everyone is different but it's the general concepts that are important. By promoting this IIFYM diet to anyone and everyone on these forums you are negatively impacting the progress of many teens that want to actually be successful one day and win some professional shows instead of being 175 5% after 10 years of training.

Like I said, If you don't care about how your body looks but just want to be a smaller person and a certain weight then by all means IIFYM could be the diet for you.

You're quoting IFBB pros, which actually do follow IIFYM, as they fit food into their macros. Oh yeah, should I mention that they're on certain 'illegal supplements'?


This guy eats ****loads of processed foods.
















The stuff you see they tell you about their diet and supplementation in interviews are all ****ING LIES.

They are sponsored by supplement companies to PROMOTE SUPPLEMENT USE. Eating frequently, only clean foods, certain times all that is designed to make you feel like shiet and use convenient, 'NECESSARY' supplements that apparently give you 'the edge'. They are PAID to promote supplement use.



Another few example of IIFYM followers:

[Francis333]

If that was literally all you ate, probably not.

You would get low body fat sure, but the muscle just wouldn't be there due to lack of proteinz.

You'd probably end up like:



At best. That definitley isn't shredded.

How does that picture have any relevance to what we are talking about?

Please tell me where I said that jelly donuts would be "literally all you ate". IIFYM is about moderation. I guess you don't understand that.

[Gink]

Let's see which diet is going to get you better results.

Diet 1. Consuming nothing but pasta. That's a 'clean food' so technically it's ok to eat. Hold on for a second, that leaves you with very little protein, fats, and important micronutrients.


Diet 2. Consuming a wide variety of foods you enjoy, that hit all your protein, fats and carbs, getting all your fiber, vitamins and minerals, but allowing 10-20% of processed foods.



Please respond.



By the way, there is anecdotal evidence on both sides, many great transformations, but there's science behind only one of them.

This. LOL at people who try to oppose IIFYM.

lol pasta is a clean food? since when?

it's no wonder your deadlift is so ****ing pathetic

get the **** out *******


oh i guess BBQChicken is the retard who thinks pasta is a clean food, still, learn to use quote tags retard

[watwut]

How does that picture have any relevance to what we are talking about?

Please tell me where I said that jelly donuts would be "literally all you ate". IIFYM is about moderation. I guess you don't understand that.

You never said it, but I did.

ReadingComprehension101.com

[npcSHWchamp2016]

You will never become close to the size of an ifbb pro. sorry little buddy.

Oh I've never heard this one before.

I'll just have to try my best, leave no stone unturned, and we'll all see won't we?

[BBqChicken1]

Stats: 5'11", 163 lbs

Not gonna argue with some kid that looks like shit.

Dump the crossfit or p90x or whatever it is that you're doing and do some lifts that actually promote growth.

This is the problem with you guys. Until you can show me a successful IFBB pro that clearly states "I approve of IIFYM." I'm not gonna even gonna consider it. I don't give a **** how many studies or 175lb. natural lifters eating poptarts you post, I have goals set higher than that. Meanwhile we got little 160lb. kids running around spouting IIFYM this and IIFYM like it's the next coming of jesus.

Let me ****ing see.. IFBB pros aren't natty.

Lee Priest eats processed foods, gets shredded. Ronnie Coleman loves BBQ sauce. That's a processed food.

All bodybuilders talk about cheat meals/cheat days, in moderation. That's ****ing IIFYM. Whether you eat 1 poptart a day or one day a week where you eat 7 makes no ****ing difference.

[Francis333]

Da fuq? I was just about to copypasta that same pic......are you a wizard BBqChicken?

Ogus eats pop tarts and follows IIFYM. You still want to try to refute that you can't get shredded from eating donuts or ****e like that bro?

[drummaboyyyy]

I knew flexforall would pop up in this discussion.



Obviously these morons in here are confused...no one is suggesting you eat pop tarts 6 times a day.

If you're short on hitting them macros at the end of they then a doughnut or double cheesburger is perfectly fine. quit over thinking you *******s

[watwut]

If you're short on hitting them macros at the end of they then a doughnut or double cheesburger is perfectly fine. quit over thinking you *******s

/thread

[Francis333]

lol pasta is a clean food? since when?

it's no wonder your deadlift is so ****ing pathetic

get the **** out *******


oh i guess BBQChicken is the retard who thinks pasta is a clean food, still, learn to use quote tags retard

My deadlift is pathetic because I am a beginner. STFU

Pasta is not a clean food because there is no such thing.