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    i honestly don't believe people who say they hit their macros on bulk and don't grow. if you're eating right you'll grow. don't follow a calculator, use it as a base. if you're not growing, eat more than that. still not growing, eat more. its common sense.
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    shiety form? be honest OP, too many *******s in my gym lift with shiety form and after 3-4 yrs they still look the same.
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    I dont have before pics.

    I cant find my old workout papers where I wrote my weights. But, I only started doing deadlifts maybe 3 months ago, and I started at 80 and now I am at 100kg. Yes, I am weak, but I lift similar amounts to guys with a lot more muscle size than me, how they get muscle when they so weak ffs.
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    Add some exercises such as:

    Side raises
    Lateral raises
    Flies

    And no excercises to isolate biceps?
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    Originally Posted by mikew152 View Post
    shiety form? be honest OP, too many *******s in my gym lift with shiety form and after 3-4 yrs they still look the same.
    Have recently realised my squat is **** form (1/2 squats), and my deadlift form isnt 100% yet, but apart from that my form is good.
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    I know this feel. I get stronger, but still look like ****. I don't get it.
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    he was making a point saying maybe op doesn't go hard enough in the gym.. and doms doesn't have anything to do with muscle growth
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    its not bad genetics man, you're either not eating enough, or not getting enough rest in between each gym session. when i say rest i dont mean sleep, i mean actual recovery time.

    whats your routine like? how frequently do you hit each muscle group, and how many sets do you do?

    also, whats the diet like? what do you eat, and when do you eat it?
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    Something you don't understand? Post 1 im implying that you need to WORK HARD. Post 2 is simple enough
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    Originally Posted by 4ea View Post
    its not bad genetics man, you're either not eating enough, or not getting enough rest in between each gym session. when i say rest i dont mean sleep, i mean actual recovery time.

    whats your routine like? how frequently do you hit each muscle group, and how many sets do you do?

    also, whats the diet like? what do you eat, and when do you eat it?
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    Originally Posted by BusterBob77 View Post
    This^^^ awaits answer.
    its been answered, look at posts.
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    Originally Posted by Issobolic28 View Post
    And no excercises to isolate biceps?
    I was till about a week and a half ago when i changed my routine a bit.
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    Oh ok and you're still stuck on why the no growth. I will need to read over your responses. Getting ready for work soon and three hours sleep oh lawd.
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    Picture?


    What exactly is your diet? Not Micros, what do you eat day to day?

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    its always easy to complain - yes i have been there
    its always harder to push yourself even harder in the gym, with intensity, with passion, without fear

    too many people fall into the first category mentally and see the glass half empty.

    like many people say, you need to go harder and heavier in the gym....in fact the fact you think you know more than 90% of people in the gym tells me you fit the first criteria i mentioned above to a t.

    Leave the "knowledge" at home, work the iron in the gym.....
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    Def doing it wrong...sounds like its a whole bunch of things to be honest.

    Bump up your protein for starters. Also drop the weight if you have to but concentrate on proper form and really contracting on each rep. Then eat like a pig but good foods. Kind of skimmed through some of the posts but what types of food are you eating? I saw your macros but list what you eat in each meal.

    But it takes time to grow...its not going to happen over night
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    Originally Posted by SCE View Post
    Picture?


    What exactly is your diet? Not Micros, what do you eat day to day?

    I'll tell you what your problem is, and how to fix it.
    its 530am, i am about to go to sleep, i'll psot a pic tomorrow.

    I just eat random chit TBH. So cant really say what a normal day is like. I do eat a lot of junk food. And recently I have ended up eating less meat and just taking protein shakes but for most of my training the only time I took a shake was post workout and the rest of the protein was acquired through normal food especially meat etc. Also I could use more vegetables. You think a cleaner diet will help? I will write down what I eat tomorrow to give a better picture.
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    Originally Posted by GreatestEver View Post
    Been lifting for probably around 9 months
    Been mainly bulking but as I started with about 16% body fat I did have to cut for a while when I hit around 20% bf
    I have studied a lot and can honestly say I know more than 95% of guys at the gym
    Hitting my macros
    Taking multi
    Lifting heavy, compounds mainly
    Sleeping enough
    Taking useful supps
    etc.


    But I still look like do I even lift. Seriously I have people ask me it on a few occasions. Feelsbadman.

    Is it bad genetics?

    What do misc? Get on the celltech?
    Please post pics when you start a thread like this. How the F*** are we supposed to guess?
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    Originally Posted by GreatestEver View Post
    I was till about a week and a half ago when i changed my routine a bit.
    I would re-evaluate your routine to make sure you are hitting all the muscle groups; both as a primary and secondary.
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    he was making a point saying maybe op doesn't go hard enough in the gym.. and doms doesn't have anything to do with muscle growth
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    Originally Posted by Dutch24 View Post
    its always easy to complain - yes i have been there
    its always harder to push yourself even harder in the gym, with intensity, with passion, without fear

    too many people fall into the first category mentally and see the glass half empty.

    like many people say, you need to go harder and heavier in the gym....in fact the fact you think you know more than 90% of people in the gym tells me you fit the first criteria i mentioned above to a t.

    Leave the "knowledge" at home, work the iron in the gym.....
    Honestly mate, i'm not much of a complainer. I am just as keen and motivated as I would be if i was making size gains. The strength gains help with this. But its just been building up in my head recently that it must be **** genetics or something because I am running out of ideas on what else to try. 9 months as a noob I should have added a good amount of muscle, while I have only added a little bit.
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    from the way you write and the information you give (and not give) it looks like you dont know what the **** you are doing

    no hate op, just saying, im probably wrong but nobody can help you like that. i gained 12kg in 7 months, 183cm and 3500 calories every day and at least doubled all weights. what you need to do is provide exact information and preferably pics. since youre not doing that for 3 pages i feel like already wasting my time typing all this ****
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    Originally Posted by GreatestEver View Post
    its 530am, i am about to go to sleep, i'll psot a pic tomorrow.

    I just eat random chit TBH. So cant really say what a normal day is like. I do eat a lot of junk food. And recently I have ended up eating less meat and just taking protein shakes but for most of my training the only time I took a shake was post workout and the rest of the protein was acquired through normal food especially meat etc. Also I could use more vegetables. You think a cleaner diet will help? I will write down what I eat tomorrow to give a better picture.
    Ight PM me to remind me tomorrow.

    And yes contrary to popular beliefs WHAT you eat makes a huge difference, it's not just micros.

    Post a pic some (body doesn't have to include face) with height/weight/age/how long lifting so I can guess approx natural test level, then post what you eat over a 1-3 day period, so I can access you nutritional deficiencies. And I guarantee I can tell you how to fix your problem.
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    Originally Posted by GreatestEver View Post
    4 days per week

    2 days upper, 2 days lower

    5x deadlift
    3x BB Reverse Lunge
    3x Swiss Ball Leg Curl
    2x Ab Rollout

    5x Military Press
    5x Chin Up
    4x Alternate Db Bench Press
    3x Standing One Arm Cable Row
    2x Dead Stop EZ Bar Tricep Extension

    5x Front Squat
    3x Rear foot elevated split squat
    4x DB single leg romanian DL
    3x Landmin

    5x incline bench press
    4x Barbell Row
    3x Dip
    3x Cable Face Pull
    3x DB shrug
    try this

    day 1 - chest/tri

    day 2 - back/bi

    day 3 - off

    day 4 - delts

    day 5 - legs

    day 6 - off

    or else (if arms are lacking)

    day 1 - chest/triceps

    day 2 - back/biceps

    day 3 - delts

    day 4 - off

    day 5 - arms

    day 6 - legs

    day 7 off

    + 6-8 reps, 12-15 sets in total per body part

    check your diet. (500 calories over maintainence)

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    Originally Posted by GreatestEver View Post
    Been lifting for probably around 9 months
    Been mainly bulking but as I started with about 16% body fat I did have to cut for a while when I hit around 20% bf
    I have studied a lot and can honestly say I know more than 95% of guys at the gym
    Hitting my macros
    Taking multi
    Lifting heavy, compounds mainly
    Sleeping enough
    Taking useful supps
    etc.
    What is lifting properly to you?
    You honestly haven't studied cause you still take a multi.
    Hitting your macros (obviously not)
    Lifting heavy =/= lifting properly


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    Originally Posted by titsMcGee View Post
    most likely not eating enough. You think you are, but you're not
    if hes gaining fat its not a caloric problem, possibly macros, possibly also hormones or not proper training or rest
    A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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    Originally Posted by mikew152 View Post
    shiety form? be honest OP, too many *******s in my gym lift with shiety form and after 3-4 yrs they still look the same.
    yes and theres also people who never change their routine... change grips, intensity, loads, order of workouts, everything
    A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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    Originally Posted by Purepwnage View Post
    try this

    day 1 - chest/tri

    day 2 - back/bi

    day 3 - off

    day 4 - delts

    day 5 - legs

    day 6 - off

    or else (if arms are lacking)

    day 1 - chest/triceps

    day 2 - back/biceps

    day 3 - delts

    day 4 - off

    day 5 - arms

    day 6 - legs

    day 7 off

    + 6-8 reps, 12-15 sets in total per body part

    check your diet. (500 calories over maintainence)

    8 hours sleep

    take a multi
    This is what I mean. Kunts that dont know **** but put size on. Why would you recommend a 4/5 day split for someone training less than a year? A whole day for delts? Gtfo.




    Originally Posted by DeathTaco View Post
    What is lifting properly to you?
    You honestly haven't studied cause you still take a multi.
    Hitting your macros (obviously not)
    Lifting heavy =/= lifting properly


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    obviously you're not doing everything right.
    Good luck getting all your micronutrients without a multi.





    Originally Posted by seanb1979 View Post
    yes and theres also people who never change their routine... change grips, intensity, loads, order of workouts, everything
    I change my routine up every month or two. Intensity changes every week.







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