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03-16-2008, 06:42 PM #61
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03-16-2008, 06:44 PM #62
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03-16-2008, 06:44 PM #63Certitude is the enemy of wisdom.
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03-16-2008, 06:46 PM #64
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03-16-2008, 06:52 PM #65
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I can understand why people are upset here.
I first saw these products a week ago on other websites selling the NRG-X Labs Tren 13-Ethyl with this PCT product as a bundle.
Most kids hear 'you need a pct' but dont know what it is. So they walk into a store, see these two products together as a bundle "oh hey look it comes with PCT", pick it up and think they are safe.
While this 'pct' product isnt the first of its kind, as we see many threads with people saying "i have so-and-so PCT so im ok" or something similar. Most of us know that these products are not sufficient for PCT on their own. Sure, some companies may say that they dont replace a full PCT protocol, but they arnt advertised in this way nor are they labelled in such a way. So, uninformed people will not see the issue here (i agree that people should do at least some research).
These OTC 'PCT' products (minus the AI PCS) wont do much on their own, and im sure the companies, or at least the ones who formulated it, know this. Maybe NRGXLabs doesn't understand what the product actually does other than what he has been told by those who made it for them? Maybe he believes, due to lack of knowledge, that this product will help people? Who knows.
Its all just a way for the companies to make money.Last edited by yCat; 03-16-2008 at 06:55 PM.
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03-16-2008, 06:59 PM #66
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03-16-2008, 07:05 PM #68
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03-16-2008, 07:18 PM #7311B, NASM CPT, CFL1
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03-16-2008, 07:25 PM #74
Ass-kisser? No. Nice guy? Well I have to. I am a rep. We have rules (Matt knows this all too well. Which is why I am assuming he isn't a rep).
If I want to see changes, I can't go the route you guys go. I have to go the diplomatic/nice guy route. But there is one thing we all have in common-
there needs to be changes.dogs are forever in the push-up position.
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03-16-2008, 07:31 PM #7511B, NASM CPT, CFL1
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03-16-2008, 07:32 PM #76
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03-16-2008, 07:36 PM #79
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If someone says, "Your product sucks." then you're more likely to shrug it off and think the person is an ass.
If someone says, "What will this do, I feel it's inadequate, you should consider blah blah," I expect they are more likely to be listened to.
If you don't expect a company to change based on feedback (not directed at anyone in particular just as a general statement) why waste your time posting in their topic?
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funny you guys talk about conduct on the internet being pointless, yet you judge one's character by how they conduct themselves on the internet. I couldn't do what I do for a living if I didn't have a set of balls, so don't dare try to tell me I'm spineless(what was it we were spinning before?).
And as far as your comments, and discontent with the product being promoted here, perhaps theres a better way of expressing it if you're really that interested in making a change. Rather than throw a temper tantrum like a four year old girl, how about offering suggestions or even criticism with a common decency. Acting the way you have really doesn't provoke any real, positive change. Instead, it just makes you look like a royal ass.
But whatever.
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03-16-2008, 08:01 PM #81
If a company can't make a good product on their own and needs to rely on an internet forum to correct their mistakes, then they deserve to have a new one ripped.
Are you guys serious?
You really think being "nice" and "helpful" is going to change a damn thing?
You really think these guys are going to change the name after they've spent the money packaging all the bottles?
You really think they're going to completely reformulate it after they've sent all this **** out to the retailers?
Get real. It's a ****ty product, and I am going to voice my opinion about it. I'm not going to waste my time trying to help someone who can't formulate a good product in the first place. If they can't do that, they don't deserve to be in the industry.
Don't like it? Well I guess you can keep sucking up to them, maybe you'll get some free MAXX PCT!!!11B, NASM CPT, CFL1
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03-16-2008, 08:08 PM #82
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03-16-2008, 08:14 PM #83
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that any company which will come out with a ****ty product as MAXX PCT doesn't deserve to have a second chance.
Why should we care about their success? Especially when the argument could be made that they're just jumping on the "PCT" bandwagon to make a quick buck and this could be potentially very hazardous to consumers.11B, NASM CPT, CFL1
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03-16-2008, 08:16 PM #84
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I agree with you to the extent that if they don't care to change their product, or at least the way it is marketed, we shouldn't care about their success. But it's my opinion that if they do something to show they are trying to make up for their mistake, that they should be given the benefit of the doubt.
I'm not disagreeing with your stance completely, just trying to look at it in a more positive light.
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03-16-2008, 08:22 PM #8511B, NASM CPT, CFL1
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03-16-2008, 08:56 PM #8811B, NASM CPT, CFL1
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03-17-2008, 03:56 AM #89
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