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    Originally Posted by AntiGlobalist View Post
    No, no you're right.

    We should all just keep our mouths shut and let what happens happens.

    It doesn't matter if ignorant folks do permanent damage to themselves thinking this is adequate PCT. Being nice on the internet is much more important!
    That is what the companies and followers/fan boys want
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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    That is what the companies and followers/fan boys want
    Thats the last time I try and be nice!

    You hurt my feelings.
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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    do you and GET DIESEL have the same formulater of your products?
    Are you going to start another thread Matt?
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    Originally Posted by muscle mania malky View Post
    Thats the last time I try and be nice!

    You hurt my feelings.
    I am disappointed in you for defending them(serious).

    Originally Posted by leonidas300 View Post
    Are you going to start another thread Matt?
    Maybe when I am done with studying for managerial accounting
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    I can understand why people are upset here.

    I first saw these products a week ago on other websites selling the NRG-X Labs Tren 13-Ethyl with this PCT product as a bundle.

    Most kids hear 'you need a pct' but dont know what it is. So they walk into a store, see these two products together as a bundle "oh hey look it comes with PCT", pick it up and think they are safe.

    While this 'pct' product isnt the first of its kind, as we see many threads with people saying "i have so-and-so PCT so im ok" or something similar. Most of us know that these products are not sufficient for PCT on their own. Sure, some companies may say that they dont replace a full PCT protocol, but they arnt advertised in this way nor are they labelled in such a way. So, uninformed people will not see the issue here (i agree that people should do at least some research).

    These OTC 'PCT' products (minus the AI PCS) wont do much on their own, and im sure the companies, or at least the ones who formulated it, know this. Maybe NRGXLabs doesn't understand what the product actually does other than what he has been told by those who made it for them? Maybe he believes, due to lack of knowledge, that this product will help people? Who knows.

    Its all just a way for the companies to make money.
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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    I am disappointed in you for defending them(serious).
    Seriously.

    Every person in here who has tried to play peacemaker is a spineless ass-kisser whose only trying to maintain their own reputation as a "nice guy".

    **** that ****.
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    Originally Posted by AntiGlobalist View Post
    Seriously.

    Every person in here who has tried to play peacemaker is a spinless ass-kisser whose only trying to maintain their own reputation as a "nice guy".

    **** that ****.
    exactly.

    so many people/companies hate me because I dont kiss their ass and call out the bull****
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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    I am disappointed in you for defending them(serious).
    Yeah I know.. but hes not a supremeSE ranting that this is all you need for your PCT. If he's willing to change some things about this product, then thats great.. I give one chance.. New rules forced on these boards make me try and be a nice guy.
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    Originally Posted by muscle mania malky View Post
    Yeah I know.. but hes not a supremeSE ranting that this is all you need for your PCT. If he's willing to change some things about this product, then thats great.. I give one chance.. what can I say.. I am a nice guy.
    Do you really think they are going to change the ingredients or name??
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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    Do you really think they are going to change the ingredients or name??
    No. but its worth a try.
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    Originally Posted by AntiGlobalist View Post
    Seriously.

    Every person in here who has tried to play peacemaker is a spinless ass-kisser whose only trying to maintain their own reputation as a "nice guy".

    **** that ****.
    At least I can spell.
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    Originally Posted by AntiGlobalist View Post
    Seriously.

    Every person in here who has tried to play peacemaker is a spinless ass-kisser whose only trying to maintain their own reputation as a "nice guy".

    **** that ****.
    Oh buddy...I've got plenty of spin.
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    Originally Posted by jeremyleinen View Post
    At least I can spell.
    You have no spine but at least you can spell?

    Doesn't sound like a good trade-off to me.
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    Originally Posted by AntiGlobalist View Post
    Seriously.

    Every person in here who has tried to play peacemaker is a spineless ass-kisser whose only trying to maintain their own reputation as a "nice guy".

    **** that ****.
    Ass-kisser? No. Nice guy? Well I have to. I am a rep. We have rules (Matt knows this all too well. Which is why I am assuming he isn't a rep).

    If I want to see changes, I can't go the route you guys go. I have to go the diplomatic/nice guy route. But there is one thing we all have in common-

    there needs to be changes.
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    Originally Posted by muscle mania malky View Post
    Ass-kisser? No. Nice guy? Well I have to. I am a rep. We have rules (Matt knows this all too well. Which is why I am assuming he isn't a rep).

    If I want to see changes, I can't go the route you guys go. I have to go the diplomatic/nice guy route. But there is one thing we all have in common-

    there needs to be changes.
    I understand the constraints that being a rep puts you under.

    But you could easily just say nothing at all.
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    Originally Posted by AntiGlobalist View Post
    I understand the constraints that being a rep puts you under.

    But you could easily just say nothing at all.
    thats what i use to do
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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    thats what i use to do
    I would like to.. but then I feel like changes won't be made. I try to use positive enforcement to make changes when it comes to these things.
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    Originally Posted by AntiGlobalist View Post
    I understand the constraints that being a rep puts you under.

    But you could easily just say nothing at all.
    thats what i do
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    Originally Posted by AntiGlobalist View Post
    I understand the constraints that being a rep puts you under.

    But you could easily just say nothing at all.
    If someone says, "Your product sucks." then you're more likely to shrug it off and think the person is an ass.

    If someone says, "What will this do, I feel it's inadequate, you should consider blah blah," I expect they are more likely to be listened to.

    If you don't expect a company to change based on feedback (not directed at anyone in particular just as a general statement) why waste your time posting in their topic?
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    Originally Posted by AntiGlobalist View Post
    You have no spine but at least you can spell?

    Doesn't sound like a good trade-off to me.
    funny you guys talk about conduct on the internet being pointless, yet you judge one's character by how they conduct themselves on the internet. I couldn't do what I do for a living if I didn't have a set of balls, so don't dare try to tell me I'm spineless(what was it we were spinning before?).

    And as far as your comments, and discontent with the product being promoted here, perhaps theres a better way of expressing it if you're really that interested in making a change. Rather than throw a temper tantrum like a four year old girl, how about offering suggestions or even criticism with a common decency. Acting the way you have really doesn't provoke any real, positive change. Instead, it just makes you look like a royal ass.

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    Originally Posted by MBSowards View Post
    If someone says, "Your product sucks." then you're more likely to shrug it off and think the person is an ass.

    If someone says, "What will this do, I feel it's inadequate, you should consider blah blah," I expect they are more likely to be listened to.

    If you don't expect a company to change based on feedback (not directed at anyone in particular just as a general statement) why waste your time posting in their topic?
    Originally Posted by jeremyleinen View Post
    funny you guys talk about conduct on the internet being pointless, yet you judge one's character by how they conduct themselves on the internet. I couldn't do what I do for a living if I didn't have a set of balls, so don't dare try to tell me I'm spineless(what was it we were spinning before?).

    And as far as your comments, and discontent with the product being promoted here, perhaps theres a better way of expressing it if you're really that interested in making a change. Rather than throw a temper tantrum like a four year old girl, how about offering suggestions or even criticism with a common decency. Acting the way you have really doesn't provoke any real, positive change. Instead, it just makes you look like a royal ass.

    But whatever.
    If a company can't make a good product on their own and needs to rely on an internet forum to correct their mistakes, then they deserve to have a new one ripped.

    Are you guys serious?

    You really think being "nice" and "helpful" is going to change a damn thing?

    You really think these guys are going to change the name after they've spent the money packaging all the bottles?

    You really think they're going to completely reformulate it after they've sent all this **** out to the retailers?

    Get real. It's a ****ty product, and I am going to voice my opinion about it. I'm not going to waste my time trying to help someone who can't formulate a good product in the first place. If they can't do that, they don't deserve to be in the industry.

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    Originally Posted by AntiGlobalist View Post
    If a company can't make a good product on their own and needs to rely on an internet forum to correct their mistakes, then they deserve to have a new one ripped.

    Where else is a new company going to get feedback? I highly doubt they are being sold in GNC.

    Are you guys serious?

    Not really, I couldn't care less either way.

    You really think being "nice" and "helpful" is going to change a damn thing?

    More than being an ass to people, yeah.

    You really think these guys are going to change the name after they've spent the money packaging all the bottles?

    If they expect to grow into a good company with a good following, I would hope so. They wouldn't be the first company to change a product.

    You really think they're going to completely reformulate it after they've sent all this **** out to the retailers?

    See above.

    Get real. It's a ****ty product, and I am going to voice my opinion about it. I'm not going to waste my time trying to help someone who can't formulate a good product in the first place. If they can't do that, they don't deserve to be in the industry.

    Currently I wouldn't use the product for a PCT or for anything else, that's why I was asking questions. Maybe it could be used as a support to other more proper PCT products, but I don't know as PH/PS use and PCTs aren't what I'm interested in knowing about. I should also note that I don't advise on these issues, other than age.

    Don't like it? Well I guess you can keep sucking up to them, maybe you'll get some free MAXX PCT!!!

    lol, okay
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    Originally Posted by MBSowards View Post
    ^^^
    I guess the point I'm trying to make is that any company which will come out with a ****ty product as MAXX PCT doesn't deserve to have a second chance.

    Why should we care about their success? Especially when the argument could be made that they're just jumping on the "PCT" bandwagon to make a quick buck and this could be potentially very hazardous to consumers.
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    Originally Posted by AntiGlobalist View Post
    I guess the point I'm trying to make is that any company which will come out with a ****ty product as MAXX PCT doesn't deserve to have a second chance.

    Why should we care about their success?
    I agree with you to the extent that if they don't care to change their product, or at least the way it is marketed, we shouldn't care about their success. But it's my opinion that if they do something to show they are trying to make up for their mistake, that they should be given the benefit of the doubt.

    I'm not disagreeing with your stance completely, just trying to look at it in a more positive light.
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    Originally Posted by MBSowards View Post
    I agree with you to the extent that if they don't care to change their product, or at least the way it is marketed, we shouldn't care about their success. But it's my opinion that if they do something to show they are trying to make up for their mistake, that they should be given the benefit of the doubt.

    I'm not disagreeing with your stance completely, just trying to look at it in a more positive light.
    Well then I guess I'm the yin and you're the yang(no homo).
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    Originally Posted by AntiGlobalist View Post
    Well then I guess I'm the yin and you're the yang(no homo).
    lol
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    The point I was trying to make is that your being a complete dick and "ripping them a new one" isn't going to change anything, either.
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    Originally Posted by jeremyleinen View Post
    The point I was trying to make is that your being a complete dick and "ripping them a new one" isn't going to change anything, either.
    So my posts don't help people see how this product would be very bad if used for PCT?

    Because that's my intent.

    If it doesn't do that, then you have a point. Otherwise you're just being a sandy vag
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    Originally Posted by jeremyleinen View Post
    The point I was trying to make is that your being a complete dick and "ripping them a new one" isn't going to change anything, either.
    It will make people aware this product is beyond awful. Some people here actually want to help people avoid buying **** and wasting their money.. and others here just want to blow every company that comes on here to try and get free stuff. We know where you stand.
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    do you and GET DIESEL have the same formulater of your products?
    that's EACTLY what I was thinking!!
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