Masks work on flights, too

[Duckliver]

But graduate school is little more than advanced communist brainwashing

Are you pretending to speak for me here or are you stupid?

[J.L.C.]

You’ll have to elaborate. Your assumption is that it is lolz that one can say a mask does not stop viral transmission, but at the same time is harmful because of the rebreathing of C02..yes?
But then at the same time you post studies that show masks are effective only to a certain percentage…either you aren’t aware of your absurdity or you are just trolling.

Every mask is going to have aerosols pass through unless it is a gas mask..you do understand this I hope

Just read your posts.

Cogent? Not even once

[J.L.C.]

Are you pretending to speak for me here or are you stupid?

Wat?

[freeheeler]

So it isn't safe to take the mask off when eating or drinking at a restaurant?

If you’re a liberal slimy pha$$ot that’s telling everyone else to get the shot while you don’t and eating out during Covid at your expensive restaurants you’re perfectly safe.

[Dave22reborn]

Sure seems like they do based on all the extant literature

Just lol @ dedicated anti maskers

Are you still wearing one?

[Paul Kreul]

Just read your posts.

Cogent? Not even once

Again..you’ll have to elaborate, it seems you are the only one here displaying cognitive dissonance…

Every mask is going to have aerosols pass through unless it is a gas mask..you do understand this I hope..?

There is a reason you can breathe through every OTC mask available..& in one’s breath is aerosolized droplets that travel through any mask..that is why you can only post studies showing they are effective up to a certain percentage, which you actually have not presented, only models, no actual case studies lol

[J.L.C.]

Again..you’ll have to elaborate, it seems you are the only one here displaying cognitive dissonance…

Every mask is going to have aerosols pass through unless it is a gas mask..you do understand this I hope..?

Das it!

Cogent vs cognitive dissonance, just lol.

[Paul Kreul]

Das it!

Cogent vs cognitive dissonance, just lol.

When all you have left are ad hominem attacks. Lol.

[J.L.C.]

When all you have left are ad hominem attacks. Lol.

There's no ad hominem.

You used an unrelated term, seemingly because it started with the letter "c". Just lol

[ThePD]

I'd say that depends on what you mean by safe. How's the air quality in the restaurant? Are there infectious people in there? If so, how many? How large is the space?

Can you just drop the covid bull****. Nobody cares. Its past us, now let get back to the US government funded it.

[Duckliver]

Wat?

It’s not a complicated question

You posted a graph

I made fun of it

Seatard commented on my inability to read the accompanying text, (where I pointed out he neglected to read where I addressed and quoted said text) in doing so he commented on graduate requirements.

You made a comment either indicating that the subject being talked about (me complaining about the study) believed graduate school to be communist propaganda or it’s a belief you yourself likely hold, which is unlikely given your typical slant/posts.

So in order to preemptively answer the inevitable vague “did I say you said that” or “do I believe that” I’m asking you to clarify before I point out exactly how ignorant or stupid you are depending on what you mean by your statement.


Can you follow that or do you need pictures and graphs?

[Paul Kreul]

There's no ad hominem.

You used an unrelated term, seemingly because it started with the letter "c". Just lol

Wat
How is it unrelated??

“Cognitive dissonance is a psychological phenomenon that occurs when a person holds two contradictory beliefs at the same time.”

You were confused on what masks can & cannot do..I was trying to help you understand

[J.L.C.]

Can you just drop the covid bull****. Nobody cares. Its past us, now let get back to the US government funded it.

This is thread is mostly about masks and respirators working. As far as I know, nobody is being forced to enter threads

[Impureclient]

Not sure why everybody plays along in here?

[J.L.C.]

Wat
How is it unrelated??

“Cognitive dissonance is a psychological phenomenon that occurs when a person holds two contradictory beliefs at the same time.”

You were confused on what masks can & cannot do..I was trying to help you understand

Yes!

The ignorant act is a key part of the caricature. Well done

[J.L.C.]

Not sure why everybody plays along in here?

Possibly because Paul truly brings the lulz

[J.L.C.]

It’s not a complicated question

You posted a graph

I made fun of it

Seatard commented on my inability to read the accompanying text, (where I pointed out he neglected to read where I addressed and quoted said text) in doing so he commented on graduate requirements.

You made a comment either indicating that the subject being talked about (me complaining about the study) believed graduate school to be communist propaganda or it’s a belief you yourself likely hold, which is unlikely given your typical slant/posts.

So in order to preemptively answer the inevitable vague “did I say you said that” or “do I believe that” I’m asking you to clarify before I point out exactly how ignorant or stupid you are depending on what you mean by your statement.


Can you follow that or do you need pictures and graphs?

Assuming jokes are directed at you or at your expense is something you might wanna query

[Paul Kreul]

Yes!

The ignorant act is a key part of the caricature. Well done

Sigh.
At least we established the fact that masks do not stop viral transmission & are in fact harmful to one’s health.

[Duckliver]

Assuming jokes are directed at you or at your expense is something you might wanna query

Well since I’m not autistic I can tell when it’s either someone being sarcastic and actually mocking me or the only other option is they are actually stupid. Since the latter is unlikely in this case it’s an exercise in logic and reason.

But keep sidestepping you intellectual midget

[J.L.C.]

Sigh.
At least we established the fact that masks do not stop viral transmission & are in fact harmful to one’s health.

Circling back to the false dilemma fallacy. Pure gold

[J.L.C.]

Well since I’m not autistic I can tell when it’s either someone being sarcastic and actually mocking me or the only other option is they are actually stupid. Since the latter is unlikely in this case it’s an exercise in logic and reason.

But keep sidestepping you intellectual midget

Pro tip: I was addressing the poster I quoted.

My post had nothing to do with you

[Paul Kreul]

Assuming jokes are directed at you or at your expense is something you might wanna query

Why else would you quote Seatard in relation to Ducklivers post than?

Do tell..

[J.L.C.]

Why else would you quote Seatard in relation to Ducklivers post than?

Do tell..

Wat?

[Paul Kreul]

Circling back to the false dilemma fallacy. Pure gold

the science is established. Masks do not stop viral transmission & are harmful to one’s health.

[Paul Kreul]

Wat?

What part did you not understand?

[Duckliver]

Pro tip: I was addressing the poster I quoted.

My post had nothing to do with you

Pro tip: he was talking about me

[J.L.C.]

the science is established. Masks do not stop viral transmission & are harmful to one’s health.

This is the false dilemma.

Repeating it kinda degrades the humour. Can we move on to ignoring units or one of your other typical derailers?

[J.L.C.]

Pro tip: he was talking about me

Cool!

[Paul Kreul]

This is the false dilemma.

Repeating it kinda degrades the humour. Can we move on to ignoring units or one of your other typical derailers?

Let’s try this again, we’ll go point by point.

Masks are harmful to one’s health..

Possible toxicity of chronic carbon dioxide exposure associated with face mask use, particularly in pregnant women, children and adolescents – A scoping review

https://www.cell.com/heliyon/pdf/S24...23)01324-5.pdf

“ significant rise in carbon dioxide occurring while wearing a mask is scientifically proven in many studies, especially for N95- masks (due to their higher deadspace and breathing resistance.

Fresh air has around 0.04% CO2 while masks bear a possible chronic exposure to low level carbon dioxide of 1.41–3.2% CO2 of the inhaled air in reliable human experiments.

Animal experimental data shows deleterious proven effects of elevated CO2 of inhaled air in the long term with threshold values of above 0.3%, 0.5% and 0.8% (Neuron destruction, impaired memory and learning, increased anxiety, destruction of cells in testes, stillbirth, and birth defects.

The risk for children’s mental development starts at levels of above 0.3% [108,113], to adolescent male sexual development at levels of above 0.5%, as well as to unborn life at levels of above 0.8% resulting in reduced cognitive performance, reduced fertility and stillbirths.

[J.L.C.]

Let’s try this again, we’ll go point by point.

Masks are harmful to one’s health..

Possible toxicity of chronic carbon dioxide exposure associated with face mask use, particularly in pregnant women, children and adolescents – A scoping review

https://www.cell.com/heliyon/pdf/S24...23)01324-5.pdf

“ significant rise in carbon dioxide occurring while wearing a mask is scientifically proven in many studies, especially for N95- masks (due to their higher deadspace and breathing resistance.

Fresh air has around 0.04% CO2 while masks bear a possible chronic exposure to low level carbon dioxide of 1.41–3.2% CO2 of the inhaled air in reliable human experiments.

Animal experimental data shows deleterious proven effects of elevated CO2 of inhaled air in the long term with threshold values of above 0.3%, 0.5% and 0.8% (Neuron destruction, impaired memory and learning, increased anxiety, destruction of cells in testes, stillbirth, and birth defects.

The risk for children’s mental development starts at levels of above 0.3% [108,113], to adolescent male sexual development at levels of above 0.5%, as well as to unborn life at levels of above 0.8% resulting in reduced cognitive performance, reduced fertility and stillbirths.

That's more like it!

Masks work too well and not at all, at the same time.