the truth about natty lifting...

[Rasc170]

natty=overrated

[Money Shot]

you can only choose two : BIG / SHREDDED / NATTY


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truth. lol @ all the kids naming guys who claim natural and believing them

[FeFocus]

BRB time lifting = 1.5-2 year(s)
BRB time cutting 1 year


BRB time spent on gaining mass 0.5-1 year








Seriously, come back when you have 6-8 years of BULKING under your belt and then b*tch....

[killerk13]

< natty as ****.

[8OO85]

well there is truth in that op, you pretty much cant be big and shredded under age 22/23 if your natty

unless you have crazy genetics like some guys here

[Money Shot]

< natty as ****.

lolz. me too!

[TheXanderXone]

Natty lifting sucks. I've been lifting for almost 4 and a half years (pretty much clean bulking the whole time) and I don't look much different than I did last year. Which is why I'm hopping on a bike soon (srs)

[NF0913]

BRB time lifting = 1.5-2 year(s)
BRB time cutting 1 year


BRB time spent on gaining mass 0.5-1 year








Seriously, come back when you have 6-8 years of BULKING under your belt and then b*tch....

this

the truth is that nobody knows their own limit, so until you get to the point where it's extremely difficult to make any sort of gains or put on size, don't complain about natty lifting. it's your decision whether to ride a bike but you should probably test the kinds of gains you can make on a long-term basis with a proven routine and a sound diet.

also need to stop being afraid to eat big...

[jonfizel]

here is what comes into concern
what does misc think "natty" is.

I have heard that only anabolics makes you not natty and that Prohormones are OK

Or

anything that greatly increases testosterone

Personally I believe its anything that you have to cycle off

[FindYourself]

[MrOJ]

In after natty claims

inb4 Lame 19NORton ''yeah it just takes years of hard work and dedication..........''

[TheXanderXone]

In after natty claims

inb4 Lame 19NORton ''yeah it just takes years of hard work and dedication..........''

I see what you did there...

[Zerafian]

in risk of a neg you are only 18 OP, give yourself life to gain experience before saying such a thing...Also what is your version of BIG and shredded.

Anyone that posts pics of themselves on the misc that is actually big and cut is accused of being on something.

[iMagnus]

I can understand why some natty guys want to shred themselves, but well that's the price you pay i.e. not looking as if you're lifting in a shirt. My advice would be just do constant slow bulking and don't care about abs showing up, at least i don't. I am not fat neither do i have a slobby fat belly, but i don't have visible abs as well...however at least i look as if i lift both in shirt and without it.

...or an alternative would be, keep bbing and bulking while do some good cardio 2-3 a week as well. That might burn the fat and still keep the muscles. Either way, just train and stfu

[MrOJ]

in risk of a neg you are only 18 OP, give yourself life to gain experience before saying such a thing...Also what is your version of BIG and shredded.

Anyone that posts pics of themselves on the misc that is actually big and cut is accused of being on something.

In reply to your brutal neg. Too late.

[Zerafian]

In reply to your brutal neg. Too late.

lol wat r you talking about...you can quote my posts all you want kid.

[XeNoN89]

here is what comes into concern
what does misc think "natty" is.

I have heard that only anabolics makes you not natty and that Prohormones are OK

Or

anything that greatly increases testosterone

Personally I believe its anything that you have to cycle off

Prohormone = not natty.


I did a cycle of tbullets nearly a year ago so can't class myself as natty, even though the gains are nothing like real juice

[Money Shot]

BRB time lifting = 1.5-2 year(s)
BRB time cutting 1 year


BRB time spent on gaining mass 0.5-1 year






Seriously, come back when you have 6-8 years of BULKING under your belt and then b*tch....

Honestly I've made more progress in a 3 week period juicing than i have in a two year period natty at one point. Didn't change my work out routine either. it truly is all drugs

[Domstar104]

Honestly I've made more progress in a 3 week period juicing than i have in a two year period natty at one point. Didn't change my work out routine either. it truly is all drugs

plz sir, tell me moar

[Money Shot]

plz sir, tell me moar

you add PED's, you grow. you add more on top of that, you grow some more. then you add more on top of that, and you grow some more. Just maintain your usual workout routine and eat enough to put you in an optimal anabolic state and then the drugs take care of the rest

[NyC_BosaNaC]

I'm ok with being natty since its not like I'm going to be a pro IFBB in the near future.

[Valenzuelatech]

In after natty claims

inb4 Lame 19NORton ''yeah it just takes years of hard work and dedication..........''

That would be a strawman argument because it's easy to refute and I don't think any successful natty athlete says that.

A better statement would be: it takes years of specified training towards progressive overload because you can work hard and be dedicated but it doesn't mean you'll accomplish anything if your training isn't working towards your goal.

[Chesso95]

might try tech if i don't see some serious gains before i'm 20

[Jooceman]

Honestly I've made more progress in a 3 week period juicing than i have in a two year period natty at one point. Didn't change my work out routine either. it truly is all drugs

I don't see how this is possible if your training routine and diet is on point. Even if you are juicing. But I've never used so idk. You put on 20 lbs of muscle in 3 weeks??

[Money Shot]

btw in case it sounds like I am telling everyone to juice, I'm not. What you don't realize until after a while, is that you will have to keep buying more and more stuff, then extra supps, then ai's, then all sorts of other stuff and the cost becomes pretty high over time. It is hard to look past it at first...but once you get started, your life pretty much changes. it all comes down to how important your physique is to you

[mmaoz]

Honestly I've made more progress in a 3 week period juicing than i have in a two year period natty at one point. Didn't change my work out routine either. it truly is all drugs

lulz **** that's demotivating

[Domstar104]

That would be a strawman argument because it's easy to refute and I don't think any successful natty athlete says that.

A better statement would be: it takes years of specified training towards progressive overload because you can work hard and be dedicated but it doesn't mean you'll accomplish anything if your training isn't working towards your goal.

What would you say is the natty limit then??

Is it possible to bench 3 plates whilst retaining dem abs natty

[SquallFF8]

Pretty much.

[iMagnus]

Imo many heavyweight figters either MMA or Boxing have good natty builds. (some did use steroids before as Brock Lesnar, Aliester Overeem etc.) but there are natty fighters that have a heavy weightlifting routine and fighting cardio routine and they achieve pretty good results:



but nowhere close to the steroid users.

[Valenzuelatech]

What would you say is the natty limit then??

Is it possible to bench 3 plates whilst retaining dem abs natty

Certainly. Mostly depends on ab size, muscular and skeletal structure, & training history